Sean Brady Steps Down

Started by Lar Naparka, September 08, 2014, 12:46:54 PM

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Sean Brady Has Retired.

Are you glad to see him go?
42 (80.8%)
Are you sad to see him go?
10 (19.2%)

Total Members Voted: 52

muppet

Quote from: T Fearon on September 30, 2014, 06:39:34 PM
You can tell by the style and tone that this writer is totally objective with no axe to grind whatsoever::)

What about this one then: http://www.dundalkdemocrat.ie/news/local-news/blackrock-parish-protests-as-parish-priest-fr-oliver-brennan-is-set-to-be-moved-to-different-parish-1-1981785

Note how he went straight to the police.

He was subsequently cleared of any allegations: http://www.cinews.ie/article.php?artid=11004
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T Fearon

He's not the first priest to resist a move and try to get his parishioners to back him,defying the divine authority of the church

muppet

Quote from: T Fearon on September 30, 2014, 07:23:37 PM
He's not the first priest to resist a move and try to get his parishioners to back him,defying the divine authority of the church

The parishioners refused to allow Brady to confirm their children.

Did you miss that bit? Or would you call it a standing ovation?
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T Fearon

Er,the Church,particularly the Head of same,tells parishioners what's happening , not the other way round

muppet

Quote from: T Fearon on September 30, 2014, 09:56:10 PM
Er,the Church,particularly the Head of same,tells parishioners what's happening , not the other way round

That is precisely the attitude that got them in the crap in the first place.

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T Fearon

So you would advocate anything goes,with no authority or governance? Priests go to and stay in whatever parish they like?

muppet

Quote from: T Fearon on October 01, 2014, 12:02:57 AM
So you would advocate anything goes,with no authority or governance? Priests go to and stay in whatever parish they like?

The Church is not above the people or its laws. The people didn't want Brady and they refused to accept him for the confirmation of their children. If he had resigned like he should have done none of this would have been an issue.

The subsequent targeting of the priest seems very petty and terribly small-minded.

But then we now know the Church in Ireland, and indeed most places, is all about the hierarchy and not anyone else.
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T Fearon

I remember this particular priest in Ballymacnab 30 years ago,he was never out of the paper.Shy and retiring he is not.

Parishioners cannot dictate to the Cardinal  as to who should or shouldn't officiate at Confirmations in his diocese.That 's ludicrous.Tail wagging the dog.

muppet

Quote from: T Fearon on October 01, 2014, 07:05:04 AM
I remember this particular priest in Ballymacnab 30 years ago,he was never out of the paper.Shy and retiring he is not.

Parishioners cannot dictate to the Cardinal  as to who should or shouldn't officiate at Confirmations in his diocese.That 's ludicrous.Tail wagging the dog.

Why do you think the parents didn't want him Tony?
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seafoid

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/mcaleese-says-catholic-church-s-old-boys-club-has-to-go-1.1920947


"The church is not terribly happy with criticism," she said to laughter from the audience. "I'm saying that as gently as possible ... The church which will not listen to people who speak out of love has a very big problem."
Speaking about Ireland, Mrs McAleese said though 90 per cent of the population of the Republic were nominally Catholic "regrettably fewer and fewer" were interested in the church.
She said child abuse revelations greatly affected people's view of the church. "Everything you thought you had, everything you thought you were, becomes a lie."
Mrs McAleese said when she was president a senior cleric laughed at her when she said the church should open up its files on child abuse or the State would force it to do so. The State would never cross that line, he said to her. "A week later, the State crossed that line," she told the audience.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

ludermor

Fr Kevin Hegarty is a priest near Belmullet. In the early 90's he was editor of the catholic magazine , Intercom and was sacked after raising the issue of sex abuse in the church.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/bishops-gave-editor-sack-over-articles-on-sex-abuse-26541720.html

Fr Hegarty said last week: "The efforts to cover up clerical sexual abuse were in one sense disturbing - See more at: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/bishops-gave-editor-sack-over-articles-on-sex-abuse-26541720.html#sthash.awJOx2HM.dpuf

T Fearon

Insubordination and dissent is not good for any organisation.The last time this happened on a major basis in Catholic Church protestantism resulted.The decisions of the hierarchy must be obeyed without question as they are divinely informed at all times.

johnneycool

Quote from: T Fearon on October 01, 2014, 10:57:09 AM
Insubordination and dissent is not good for any organisation.The last time this happened on a major basis in Catholic Church protestantism resulted.The decisions of the hierarchy must be obeyed without question as they are divinely informed at all times.

Are they f**k as like?

Where does it say that in the bible/gospels?

haveaharp

Quote from: T Fearon on October 01, 2014, 10:57:09 AM
Insubordination and dissent is not good for any organisation.

North Korea by your logic must be the way to go.

muppet

Quote from: T Fearon on October 01, 2014, 10:57:09 AM
Insubordination and dissent is not good for any organisation.The last time this happened on a major basis in Catholic Church protestantism resulted.The decisions of the hierarchy must be obeyed without question as they are divinely informed at all times.

Yes Tony, the last time the Church misbehaved so poorly, it split. Hard to know what God was thinking when he divinely led the Church down that road.
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