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Voting closed: September 18, 2014, 11:36:16 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on November 24, 2022, 03:05:52 PMQuote from: johnnycool on November 24, 2022, 09:04:01 AMQuote from: Franko on November 23, 2022, 10:26:57 PMThis is not a blow for the SNPSturgeon knew exactly how this was going to play out - any fool getting legal advice should've known that the devolved administrations can't just call a referendum and leave of their own accord - the decision was always going go be this wayHence the UK Govt requested that the Supreme Court decline to rule on the matter at allShe asked the question to demonstrate exactly what someone said earlier - that the way things are is akin to a hostage situationExcept that nobody's really sure if the hostage wants to leave it's captorThey asked him a few years ago but Stockholm Syndrome meant that he didn't want to go.But now they've cut him to one meal a day and gagged him so he can't be asked the question againToday's ruling was a boost for the independence campaignExactly this.If the UKSC had ruled in favour of the SNP they'd have been like a dog chasing a car, and finally getting caught up with it, not knowing what to do. The SNP knew they needed another "wedge" issue and the UKSC have handed them one, the denial of democracy to the Scottish voter, so it will be interesting how the next GE goes north of the GB border.Does it though? If the SNP pick up every single seat north of the border does it actually make them more powerful? The power ultimately resides with Westminster.It definitely doesBut Sturgeon's strategy here is to present a case that the Scots want away, but London won't let themShe wants to destroy the whole 'voluntary union of equals' nonsenseThe SNP (hypothetically) winning every seat in Scotland on an independence manifesto would a clear demonstration of this and would make it very difficult politically for Westminster to deny a referendumThere nothing that makes you want to do something more than some superior cnut telling you that you can't
Quote from: johnnycool on November 24, 2022, 09:04:01 AMQuote from: Franko on November 23, 2022, 10:26:57 PMThis is not a blow for the SNPSturgeon knew exactly how this was going to play out - any fool getting legal advice should've known that the devolved administrations can't just call a referendum and leave of their own accord - the decision was always going go be this wayHence the UK Govt requested that the Supreme Court decline to rule on the matter at allShe asked the question to demonstrate exactly what someone said earlier - that the way things are is akin to a hostage situationExcept that nobody's really sure if the hostage wants to leave it's captorThey asked him a few years ago but Stockholm Syndrome meant that he didn't want to go.But now they've cut him to one meal a day and gagged him so he can't be asked the question againToday's ruling was a boost for the independence campaignExactly this.If the UKSC had ruled in favour of the SNP they'd have been like a dog chasing a car, and finally getting caught up with it, not knowing what to do. The SNP knew they needed another "wedge" issue and the UKSC have handed them one, the denial of democracy to the Scottish voter, so it will be interesting how the next GE goes north of the GB border.Does it though? If the SNP pick up every single seat north of the border does it actually make them more powerful? The power ultimately resides with Westminster.
Quote from: Franko on November 23, 2022, 10:26:57 PMThis is not a blow for the SNPSturgeon knew exactly how this was going to play out - any fool getting legal advice should've known that the devolved administrations can't just call a referendum and leave of their own accord - the decision was always going go be this wayHence the UK Govt requested that the Supreme Court decline to rule on the matter at allShe asked the question to demonstrate exactly what someone said earlier - that the way things are is akin to a hostage situationExcept that nobody's really sure if the hostage wants to leave it's captorThey asked him a few years ago but Stockholm Syndrome meant that he didn't want to go.But now they've cut him to one meal a day and gagged him so he can't be asked the question againToday's ruling was a boost for the independence campaignExactly this.If the UKSC had ruled in favour of the SNP they'd have been like a dog chasing a car, and finally getting caught up with it, not knowing what to do. The SNP knew they needed another "wedge" issue and the UKSC have handed them one, the denial of democracy to the Scottish voter, so it will be interesting how the next GE goes north of the GB border.
This is not a blow for the SNPSturgeon knew exactly how this was going to play out - any fool getting legal advice should've known that the devolved administrations can't just call a referendum and leave of their own accord - the decision was always going go be this wayHence the UK Govt requested that the Supreme Court decline to rule on the matter at allShe asked the question to demonstrate exactly what someone said earlier - that the way things are is akin to a hostage situationExcept that nobody's really sure if the hostage wants to leave it's captorThey asked him a few years ago but Stockholm Syndrome meant that he didn't want to go.But now they've cut him to one meal a day and gagged him so he can't be asked the question againToday's ruling was a boost for the independence campaign
The scots wont do anything but moan online
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