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« Reply #31830 on: September 10, 2019, 11:14:30 AM »
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« Reply #31831 on: September 10, 2019, 11:44:52 AM »
Cuan let it go. Most people know that after Kilcoo Gaelic is not taking seriously enough in east down. You just need to look at the clubs competing in semi finals year in fear out at u derange. Kilcoo Clonduff CPN Burren Mayobridge Ballyholland. Iíll give you Carryduff are going well to at present. But can you really say underage clubs in east down are putting in the proper work? Yes you will always get a senior team who gets a good few years like Loughinisland but at underage they are no where to be seen. I agree Ballykinlar needs to the our centre of excellence but everyone knows itís all happening in south down

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« Reply #31832 on: September 10, 2019, 11:48:06 AM »
Cuan never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
Seriously for last 15 years all we hear is this constant East Down complaining.Facts are the standard in East Down is aweful except Kilcoo which really is a kind of separate entity.
I'd imagine if we asked Kilcoo they'd prefer Newry like all the big clubs around Newry.
Asking people from the football powerbases to travel away to Ballykinler is not fair at all on students ,managers etc recovery and sitting in a car for 2 hours is not right.Yes we might have a few from East Down travelling a distance so be it they are a minority.For the greater good leave Ballykinler to be run for the people over there and to try and bring their standards up.
This may sound very bias but I'd go as far to say we could field a better team and better team spirit and camaderie if we just picked from South Down.Now I'm being a bit extreme there but overall point is build and grow what we have a strong South Down to being even stronger and bring the few exceptions from East Down over.We can do this in Abbey or College.Leave Ballykinler as East Down Football Rehabilation Centre.

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« Reply #31833 on: September 10, 2019, 11:52:25 AM »
What happened at the lgfa intermediate final on Saturday?
What I did see was Conor Lavery running all the way round the pitch to abuse the lineswoman who had advised the ref to give a yellow card to a Kilcoo player. It was unnecessary and unsporting and a really bad example to young players, as Kilcoo were much the better team and never in danger of defeat.

 Think this could be a case of mistaken identity

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Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #31834 on: September 10, 2019, 01:28:09 PM »
If I could ban two words from this board, it would be East and South.

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« Reply #31835 on: September 10, 2019, 02:54:21 PM »
Yew tree , now I know your trying to make mischief, Ballykinlar is here , east down teams have always had a healthy representation at county level, have a look at all the teams who won all Irelandís, history doesnít lie,

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« Reply #31836 on: September 10, 2019, 03:04:30 PM »
Cuan let it go. Most people know that after Kilcoo Gaelic is not taking seriously enough in east down. You just need to look at the clubs competing in semi finals year in fear out at u derange. Kilcoo Clonduff CPN Burren Mayobridge Ballyholland. Iíll give you Carryduff are going well to at present. But can you really say underage clubs in east down are putting in the proper work? Yes you will always get a senior team who gets a good few years like Loughinisland but at underage they are no where to be seen. I agree Ballykinlar needs to the our centre of excellence but everyone knows itís all happening in south down

I and I'm sure plenty other take great offence at this as a member of an east Down club involved in underage coaching. This east/south argument is a nonsense started by a wum but that comment is out of order in relation to any club, every club in Down have volunteers putting hours in to developing the youth otherwise they wouldn't exist.

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« Reply #31837 on: September 10, 2019, 03:13:39 PM »
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« Reply #31838 on: September 10, 2019, 04:28:33 PM »
If I could ban two words from this board, it would be East and South.

Well said, affinity to East or South Down, makes absolutely no sense, We should be judged only as a whole county, many areas of the county have strengths and weaknesses and we can all leRn from these

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« Reply #31839 on: September 10, 2019, 04:37:04 PM »
What happened at the lgfa intermediate final on Saturday?
What I did see was Conor Lavery running all the way round the pitch to abuse the lineswoman who had advised the ref to give a yellow card to a Kilcoo player. It was unnecessary and unsporting and a really bad example to young players, as Kilcoo were much the better team and never in danger of defeat.

 Think this could be a case of mistaken identity

Definitely not; I've always admired Conor Lavery as a player, and Kilcoo as a club, but this behaviour was a very bad example to young gaels.

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« Reply #31840 on: September 10, 2019, 05:21:47 PM »
What happened at the lgfa intermediate final on Saturday?
What I did see was Conor Lavery running all the way round the pitch to abuse the lineswoman who had advised the ref to give a yellow card to a Kilcoo player. It was unnecessary and unsporting and a really bad example to young players, as Kilcoo were much the better team and never in danger of defeat.

The sooner he heads to Monaghan the better it seems. Not been a good couple of weeks for him it seems.
 Think this could be a case of mistaken identity

Definitely not; I've always admired Conor Lavery as a player, and Kilcoo as a club, but this behaviour was a very bad example to young gaels.

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« Reply #31841 on: September 10, 2019, 06:11:09 PM »
What happened at the lgfa intermediate final on Saturday?
What I did see was Conor Lavery running all the way round the pitch to abuse the lineswoman who had advised the ref to give a yellow card to a Kilcoo player. It was unnecessary and unsporting and a really bad example to young players, as Kilcoo were much the better team and never in danger of defeat.

Need to be very careful before launching a personal attack!! It was not CONOR laverty!!




The sooner he heads to Monaghan the better it seems. Not been a good couple of weeks for him it seems.
 Think this could be a case of mistaken identity

Definitely not; I've always admired Conor Lavery as a player, and Kilcoo as a club, but this behaviour was a very bad example to young gaels.

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« Reply #31842 on: September 10, 2019, 06:20:09 PM »
On the Ballykinlar discussion. The whole East vs South Down angle is unnecessary and divisive (although I think many of the contributors just enjoy rattling each others' cages!).

I think the issue is: what is the purpose of the Centre?

As a training facility: Down isn't a particularly big county and Ballykinlar is no more that 40 mins or so away from any part of the county. I have driven to Downpatrick, Newry, Belfast and many clubs in between for several years taking kids to dev squads and they are many others who do the same.
If you designate one place as the training venue there are always going to be pros and cons - cost - closer to A than B - quality of land etc - you're never going to satisfy everyone in Down, but those who have been committed to getting to training for years in the many venues used will continue to do so.

The second use is as a venue for matches - challenge or competitive - which is what all of the other CoEs in neighbouring counties do.

This is where Ballykinlar falls short.

If you look at all the other CoEs:

Louth: 10 mins from M1
Antrim: just off M2
Derry: on the A6
Tyrone: on the A5
Monaghan: 10 mins from N2
Cavan: just off N3/N55

All beside main roads through the county - obviously this suits travelling teams in particular.

Ballykinlar with it's position right on the East coast is quite difficult to get to for travelling teams.

The solution proposed by someone else to use Newry as the location for challenge games also has problems. It isn't called the Marshes for nothing.

From September through to May you are unlikely to be allowed to play in Pairc Esler much due to concerns over pitch damage. Only this year the u17s were due to play Offaly before the senior League match and had to be moved last minute doe to the Mitchels further down the Ind estate - as you can imagine the surface there was an embarassment.

So there would need to be a lot of work in Newry to use that as a venue all year round.

Or it's back to using club grounds, the Abbey, St Colmans, and the Dub (latter 2 aren't even in Down) as match venues for underage teams.

So if it's just a training centre Ballykinlar is fine.

As a venue for those coming from outside the county it is quite remote - it'll be interesting to see if it works for travelling teams.

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« Reply #31843 on: September 10, 2019, 06:27:12 PM »
What happened at the lgfa intermediate final on Saturday?
What I did see was Conor Lavery running all the way round the pitch to abuse the lineswoman who had advised the ref to give a yellow card to a Kilcoo player. It was unnecessary and unsporting and a really bad example to young players, as Kilcoo were much the better team and never in danger of defeat.

Need to be very careful before launching a personal attack!! It was not CONOR laverty!!




The sooner he heads to Monaghan the better it seems. Not been a good couple of weeks for him it seems.
 Think this could be a case of mistaken identity

Definitely not; I've always admired Conor Lavery as a player, and Kilcoo as a club, but this behaviour was a very bad example to young gaels.
Sorry to be clear it was not CONOR Laverty, definite mistaken identity!!

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« Reply #31844 on: September 10, 2019, 06:29:23 PM »
What I did see was Conor Lavery running all the way round the pitch to abuse the lineswoman who had advised the ref to give a yellow card to a Kilcoo player. It was unnecessary and unsporting and a really bad example to young players, as Kilcoo were much the better team and never in danger of defeat.

The sooner he heads to Monaghan the better it seems. Not been a good couple of weeks for him it seems
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Definitely not; I've always admired Conor Lavery as a player, and Kilcoo as a club, but this behaviour was a very bad example to young gaels.

This mans behaviour on or of the pitch never surprises me