Down Club Hurling & Football

[OgraAnDun]

I don't want anyone out.
How many of that Dublin team have all Ireland minor titles?
Mayo?
Donegal
Tyrone
Winning minor titles means nothing

It's a decent barometer of success. Dublin have AI U21 winners, everyone else there has AI minor and U21 finalists or winners on their team. Your point was that Kerry can do well with a load of youngsters, so why can't Down compete? The answer is that those youngsters are very good players who already are in the habit of winning. Blend that with the top class, experienced players in the team who also have the habit of winning, and there is a good team. 

[Lecale Gael]

I don't want anyone out.
How many of that Dublin team have all Ireland minor titles?
Mayo?
Donegal
Tyrone
Winning minor titles means nothing

I would agree minor titles are not a great indicator but u21 titles be closer


2017 Dublin 2-13 Galway 2-7
2016 Mayo 5-7 Cork 1-14
2015 Tyrone 1–11 Tipperary 0-13
2014 Dublin 1-21 Roscommon 3-6
2013 Galway 1-14 Cork 1-11
2012 Dublin 2-12 Roscommon 0-11
2011 Galway 2-16 Cavan 1-9 [6]
2010 Dublin 1–10 Donegal 1-8
2009 Cork 1–13 Down 2–9
2008 Kerry 2–12 Kildare 0–11


look at the counties that have made the final over the last decade and look at appearances..

Dublin 4
Galway 3
Cork 3
Roscommon 2
Mayo 1
Tyrone 1
Tipperary 1
Cavan 1
Donegal 1
Kerry 1
Kildare 1
Down 1

Now rank to div 1 and div 2

Div 1
Dublin
Galway
Mayo
Tyrone
Donegal
Kerry
Kildare     

Div 2
Cork
Roscommon
Tipperary
Cavan
Down

From Down's sole appearance only Kevin McKernan remains it was that long ago. we have had no success of note. Div 1 teams have won all the finals, the runners up are all div 2 teams

that's the cold hard fact........not about being happy to play div 2.......its all we are capable of at present

[Aristo 60]

And Conor Maginn. But yes, a long time ago.

[Smurfy123]

Fair enough lads some good stats above
Just frustrated after Sunday
Roll on Sunday
Good debate I'll hold my hands up maybe I am wrong 👍

[Down4sam2020]

Smurfy , we need to not be comaplcent, that is key.  Each game as it comes. Roscommon is next.

[Lecale Gael]

Fair enough lads some good stats above
Just frustrated after Sunday
Roll on Sunday
Good debate I'll hold my hands up maybe I am wrong 👍

think all Down supporters were frustrated but I do think Burns is trying to blood new players and the acid test can sometimes be painful.

looking at Ulster u21s last decade you can see Cavan and Donegal are going to push Tyrone hard over the next few years.
You can see Down reaching the final in 2010 didn't come by chance. I really do believe with the investment Down are now putting into development Down will improve. But the u20s need to be taken more seriously over next few years. Monaghan are a bit of an enigma, but when you see the likes of McManus not being involved at minor or u21 you wonder are we in Down missing out on talent.....I think we are

2017 Donegal 3-17 Derry 0-13
2016 Monaghan 0-13 Tyrone 0-11
2015 Tyrone 1-11 Donegal 0-13
2014 Cavan 2-6 Donegal 0-8
2013 Cavan 0-13 Donegal 1-6
2012 Cavan 1-10 Tyrone 0-10
2011 Cavan 1-10 Tyrone 0-10
2010 Donegal 2-8 Cavan 0-7
2009 Down 1-14 Armagh 2-10
2008 Down 3-11 Derry 1-14

[Lecale Gael]

Connacht u21 championship finals over last decade

2017 Galway 3-20 Sligo 2-14
2016 Mayo 1-11 Roscommon 1-10
2015 Roscommon 3-14 Galway 3-11
2014 Roscommon 0–19 Leitrim 1-3
2013 Galway 1–17 Roscommon 2–11
2012 Roscommon 1–13 Sligo 0-8
2011 Galway 1–10 Roscommon 0-4
2010 Roscommon 1-6 Sligo 0-4
2009 Mayo 3–14 Sligo 1-8
2008 Mayo 1–14 Roscommon 0–14

Are Roscommon and Galway going to have a big say on Mayo taking up permament residence in Croker every summer.

I think Roscommon are going to be very hard game for Down. If we do get a result it would do wonders for our confidence.

[downjim]

What's the hold up with the fixtures??

[SHEEDY]

gerard mcgovern has apparently left the Down panel. he'll be a big miss, very steady in the full back line.

[Targetman]

gerard mcgovern has apparently left the Down panel. he'll be a big miss, very steady in the full back line.

That's a bad blow if true, I did comment on here my surprise at his omission from the team on Sunday, any reason for this Sheedy?

[SHEEDY]

gerard mcgovern has apparently left the Down panel. he'll be a big miss, very steady in the full back line.

That's a bad blow if true, I did comment on here my surprise at his omission from the team on Sunday, any reason for this Sheedy?

he left after a row/ falling out with eamonn burns.

[Smurfy123]

Massive blow if true?
Is this confirmed that he has left the panel
He is going to be some miss..Any reason given?

[Targetman]

gerard mcgovern has apparently left the Down panel. he'll be a big miss, very steady in the full back line.

That's a bad blow if true, I did comment on here my surprise at his omission from the team on Sunday, any reason for this Sheedy?

he left after a row/ falling out with eamonn burns.

I'd rate McGovern as probably our best defender with an aggressive approach that is visibly missing in our team, not the sort of news we need after last weeks performance and ahead of a trip to Roscommon, be interesting to hear the official response from the Down camp, if true!!

[Smurfy123]

I'll hazard a guess at the starting 15 for Sunday
Reid
Flanagan
McArdle
O Hagan
O Hanlon 
McParland
Doherty
Mooney
McKernan
Millar
Maginn
Johnstone
O Hare
Dornan
O Hagan

Not a bad team considering we are missing our 2 best players in Harrison and McGovern
I'm a bit more optimistic looking at that team

[Bigben36]

Fixtures now out!!! Not online, but all club secretaries have them.