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Gaelforce123

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« Reply #34320 on: February 19, 2021, 10:30:05 AM »
Itís not an adult inter county set up.

Itís an u17 squad. In a normal season, the gap between schools players being made fully available, and the Ulster Championship, is at best a couple of months, and is balanced a little against exam commitments.

The first month is spent whittling down a trial squad into a final squad, through in-house matches, friendly matches, and various tests for fitness etc. The second month is spent trying to mould a team into a structure, around those players available. But a lot of that is trialling how players react in positions.

What Iím getting at there is that the season could be over before any serious coaching is done. Or more pertinently, that thereís not enough coaching commitments to overload a couple of men.

As mentioned when the u20 management was announced, why on earth any manager would want 7-10 voices during the trials and whittling down stage is beyond me. They must love meetings.


Yes an u17 squad... wouldn't a club u17 squad have 4 in management team? considering child protection for a start its how many should be there for a panel of 30, then add the S&C coach, the Goalkeeper coach and one more on top of that its hardly huge. Managers don't have 7-10 voices, they have different roles for each persons speciality and take opinions.

This page could at times be called the Anti-Down GAA page.

Team does poorly..... Get the manager out.
Get two good management set ups in place - Those management teams are too big!

Soon the jerseys will be too Red and the grass at Pairc Esler too green.

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« Reply #34321 on: February 19, 2021, 02:48:13 PM »
The old one-club days are gone. It's a fortunate young person who lives in the village they grew up in, especially during their twenties and early thirties when many, maybe even most, will have to travel to make their way in the world. If they can return to Ireland in their later years they are also the lucky ones.

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« Reply #34322 on: February 19, 2021, 04:01:17 PM »
I think youíre picking me up there wrong Gaelforce. What I wrote above is far from anti-Down, just an observation that the current trend of needing nearly a dozen  men to look after a team is on the other side of over the top.

S&C for example is pointless here. Players at that age will either be on a pre-existing S&C programme set by their school management, or a pre-existing S&C programme set by their club, or steadfastly refuse S&C, or have never done S&C. In any of these cases, the benefit an S&C coach can bring to a 17 year old in the 6-8 weeks between the panel being selected and the championship beginning is ninw or very close to none.

By the way, MacRory Cup teams seem to get by perfectly well with a management team of 3-4, for a season that lasts (for most schools) at least 4 months, and panels of well over 30.

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« Reply #34323 on: February 19, 2021, 07:35:59 PM »
Not that I have picked you up wrong Wobbler, as my Anti-Down remark was based on the majority of posts across this whole thread in recent weeks and months not just your previous post, I wouldn't call it an Anti-Down post but certainly some points i'd disagree with you on it.....nothing wromg with people having different opinions mind you

For me i'd say your thoughts on it are a bit short sighted, as the S&C coach may not make a huge impact in the upcoming short season if he was new to the players, however this particular person has been working with these players through development squads for at least the past 3 years so I would imagine he is continuing his work in the development of these players and therefore will make a difference.

4 People at Macrory teams, probably correct, however I dont see many Goalkeeper specific coaches or S and C coaches with Macrory teams.....are you saying these specialised people are not needed at County Minor level? if so I would disagree, in fact I would say there needs to be more specialised coaches for our forgotten Goal Keepers at all levels.

Well done to the Down CB on putting a good team in place and covering all areas, wasn't an easy choice as some other strong candidates and we should wish them and the team the best of luck for this short year and the management team for future years to come

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« Reply #34324 on: February 19, 2021, 09:26:47 PM »
Believe me the Abbey have a management panel of 1 at Mac Rory level, itís Jody Gormley and thatís it!!

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Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #34325 on: February 19, 2021, 09:58:46 PM »
Yeah but they're kinda shit year on year let's be honest

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« Reply #34326 on: February 19, 2021, 10:50:15 PM »
With the new age groups a lot of the minor team wont be playing McCrory.  Remember too most east down players go to schools that are not as football specific as those in Newry

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« Reply #34327 on: February 22, 2021, 07:34:00 PM »
 Time goes slow!Iím zoomed out.

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« Reply #34328 on: February 22, 2021, 08:41:58 PM »
So... Just read through Borisís roadmap and 17th May allows 30 person limit outdoors.. So a possible date for resuming of training?? Individual run plans are sickening at this point

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« Reply #34329 on: February 22, 2021, 10:13:12 PM »
So... Just read through Borisís roadmap and 17th May allows 30 person limit outdoors.. So a possible date for resuming of training?? Individual run plans are sickening at this point
are you based in England?

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« Reply #34330 on: February 22, 2021, 10:29:37 PM »
So... Just read through Borisís roadmap and 17th May allows 30 person limit outdoors.. So a possible date for resuming of training?? Individual run plans are sickening at this point
are you based in England?

Arelene/Michelle will copy and paste.. probably should have added that into my previous message

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« Reply #34331 on: February 22, 2021, 10:43:42 PM »
So... Just read through Borisís roadmap and 17th May allows 30 person limit outdoors.. So a possible date for resuming of training?? Individual run plans are sickening at this point
are you based in England?

Arelene/Michelle will copy and paste.. probably should have added that into my previous message
Probably will alright.

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« Reply #34332 on: February 23, 2021, 07:08:10 AM »
Mourns red think you need to read that again
29 March. Organised outdoor sport kids and adults
We are not in England but watch these morons follow Boris

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« Reply #34333 on: February 23, 2021, 08:10:27 AM »
Mourns red think you need to read that again
29 March. Organised outdoor sport kids and adults
We are not in England but watch these morons follow Boris

Didn't see that until you just mentioned Smurfy! only seen outdoor facilities.. Suppose pressure will be on the GAA to let clubs in the North train if we follow Boris

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« Reply #34334 on: February 28, 2021, 10:46:45 PM »
GAA Congress comes up with some good results but some poor decisions too.. now into March - hopefully not long until we see action on the pitches again.