Croker in the rain

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cluaineois

Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 04:45:05 PM
Quote from: cluaineois on August 04, 2014, 03:01:07 PM
Managed to walk up to the upper cusack during the first game on Saturday. A steward told us quiet aggressively to move. We declined his offer and decided to sit it out. Eventually two gardai were called and escorted us back to our original seats despite the fact that we had young children with us.

Hang on, was the upper cusack open?
Yes at least we were able to walk up unimpeded and it wasnt until we were sat down on a dry seat that the jobsworth decided to throw us out.
once your a clone your never alone

Main Street

Quote from: David McKeown on August 04, 2014, 04:11:25 PM
I thought the roof could only extend as far as it did for the same reason the Hill can't be covered. That is the effect of light on nearby properties?
That would be a fairy tale.
The roof on the Hogan stand was extended out 14m  from the original plan, that drained the coffers and there wasn't enough cash available to extend  the Cusack stand roof. Croke Park should have asked the Dublin County board for a few sacks of cash.
According to this article, it cost Eur2m per extra metre of roof.
http://archiseek.com/2002/gilroy-mcmahon-architects-croke-park-stadium-dublin/#.U9_BbEKkJf8
"In retrospect, we wouldn't make that decision again," McMahon admits. Back in 1992, the GAA believed they couldn't afford the extra £2m which would have been added to the construction cost for every extra metre of cantilever over and above the initial 34m. Now they make that much whenever there's a major championship match.

Jinxy

Quote from: cluaineois on August 04, 2014, 06:07:38 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 04:45:05 PM
Quote from: cluaineois on August 04, 2014, 03:01:07 PM
Managed to walk up to the upper cusack during the first game on Saturday. A steward told us quiet aggressively to move. We declined his offer and decided to sit it out. Eventually two gardai were called and escorted us back to our original seats despite the fact that we had young children with us.

Hang on, was the upper cusack open?
Yes at least we were able to walk up unimpeded and it wasnt until we were sat down on a dry seat that the jobsworth decided to throw us out.

Were any other fans up there?
If you were any use you'd be playing.

armaghniac

It also seems possible that 10000 people might decide not to attend a game such Saturday because of weather, that is revenue lost, some of which wcould be won back.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

cluaineois

Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 06:30:29 PM
Quote from: cluaineois on August 04, 2014, 06:07:38 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 04:45:05 PM
Quote from: cluaineois on August 04, 2014, 03:01:07 PM
Managed to walk up to the upper cusack during the first game on Saturday. A steward told us quiet aggressively to move. We declined his offer and decided to sit it out. Eventually two gardai were called and escorted us back to our original seats despite the fact that we had young children with us.

Hang on, was the upper cusack open?
Yes at least we were able to walk up unimpeded and it wasnt until we were sat down on a dry seat that the jobsworth decided to throw us out.

Were any other fans up there?
Yes there were a few [about thirty] most of them left when first approached by the stewart but the three of us plus a father and son from armagh were eventually thrown out by the gaurds.
once your a clone your never alone

Maguire01

Quote from: cluaineois on August 04, 2014, 11:02:27 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 06:30:29 PM
Quote from: cluaineois on August 04, 2014, 06:07:38 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 04:45:05 PM
Quote from: cluaineois on August 04, 2014, 03:01:07 PM
Managed to walk up to the upper cusack during the first game on Saturday. A steward told us quiet aggressively to move. We declined his offer and decided to sit it out. Eventually two gardai were called and escorted us back to our original seats despite the fact that we had young children with us.

Hang on, was the upper cusack open?
Yes at least we were able to walk up unimpeded and it wasnt until we were sat down on a dry seat that the jobsworth decided to throw us out.

Were any other fans up there?
Yes there were a few [about thirty] most of them left when first approached by the stewart but the three of us plus a father and son from armagh were eventually thrown out by the gaurds.
Well I imagine there'd be a requirement to have a steward/stewards for each open section, so given that there were plenty of covered seats on the lower deck, I don't think you can complain.

Maguire01

Quote from: Main Street on August 04, 2014, 06:27:54 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 04, 2014, 04:11:25 PM
I thought the roof could only extend as far as it did for the same reason the Hill can't be covered. That is the effect of light on nearby properties?
That would be a fairy tale.
The roof on the Hogan stand was extended out 14m  from the original plan, that drained the coffers and there wasn't enough cash available to extend  the Cusack stand roof. Croke Park should have asked the Dublin County board for a few sacks of cash.
According to this article, it cost Eur2m per extra metre of roof.
http://archiseek.com/2002/gilroy-mcmahon-architects-croke-park-stadium-dublin/#.U9_BbEKkJf8
"In retrospect, we wouldn't make that decision again," McMahon admits. Back in 1992, the GAA believed they couldn't afford the extra £2m which would have been added to the construction cost for every extra metre of cantilever over and above the initial 34m. Now they make that much whenever there's a major championship match.
Yeah, but now it would probably cost £20m!

Maguire01

Quote from: armaghniac on August 04, 2014, 04:00:58 PM
Imagine the positive public relations if the GAA had sent an email  "owing to the unusual weather conditions and as the stadium is only one third full, you can (if you wish) swap your seat in Cusack Row M for Davin Row BT. Please enjoy the game".
It seems that neither public relations nor GAA fans are given much importance, after all the people that matter are under a roof. 
Do GAA fans not have the common sense to move to an empty covered seat if they so wish? Do the need a formal invitation?

cluaineois

Quote from: Maguire01 on August 04, 2014, 11:12:14 PM
Quote from: cluaineois on August 04, 2014, 11:02:27 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 06:30:29 PM
Quote from: cluaineois on August 04, 2014, 06:07:38 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 04:45:05 PM
Quote from: cluaineois on August 04, 2014, 03:01:07 PM
Managed to walk up to the upper cusack during the first game on Saturday. A steward told us quiet aggressively to move. We declined his offer and decided to sit it out. Eventually two gardai were called and escorted us back to our original seats despite the fact that we had young children with us.

Hang on, was the upper cusack open?
Yes at least we were able to walk up unimpeded and it wasnt until we were sat down on a dry seat that the jobsworth decided to throw us out.

Were any other fans up there?
Yes there were a few [about thirty] most of them left when first approached by the stewart but the three of us plus a father and son from armagh were eventually thrown out by the gaurds.
Well I imagine there'd be a requirement to have a steward/stewards for each open section, so given that there were plenty of covered seats on the lower deck, I don't think you can complain.
When we went up to the upper deck it was during the first game and there were not any covered seats available. I had my young son with me and our seats were uncovered. There were stewards in the upper deck at the time and i also noticed that a group of people managed to stay in the upper deck of the hogan throughout the second game.
once your a clone your never alone

ardal

Extend the roof?

I bought a rain coat and waterproof trousers for €15.

Fit nicely in my backpack too.

armaghniac

One issue is that people might be accommodated last Saturday by moving upstairs etc, but some of the those people will then  show up next Saturday with no coat when the place is full also expecting to move.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

T Fearon

Same section on Saturday but seated substantially further back than last week.Hoping for better weather

armaghniac

The new section should be reasonable, unless there is a wind. I sat around there, rather than my appointed seat, last week and was OK for the Armagh game, but had to evacuate to the Davin in in the Monaghan game. Showers predicted for Saturday.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Maguire01

Quote from: cluaineois on August 04, 2014, 11:28:52 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on August 04, 2014, 11:12:14 PM
Quote from: cluaineois on August 04, 2014, 11:02:27 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 06:30:29 PM
Quote from: cluaineois on August 04, 2014, 06:07:38 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 04:45:05 PM
Quote from: cluaineois on August 04, 2014, 03:01:07 PM
Managed to walk up to the upper cusack during the first game on Saturday. A steward told us quiet aggressively to move. We declined his offer and decided to sit it out. Eventually two gardai were called and escorted us back to our original seats despite the fact that we had young children with us.

Hang on, was the upper cusack open?
Yes at least we were able to walk up unimpeded and it wasnt until we were sat down on a dry seat that the jobsworth decided to throw us out.

Were any other fans up there?
Yes there were a few [about thirty] most of them left when first approached by the stewart but the three of us plus a father and son from armagh were eventually thrown out by the gaurds.
Well I imagine there'd be a requirement to have a steward/stewards for each open section, so given that there were plenty of covered seats on the lower deck, I don't think you can complain.
When we went up to the upper deck it was during the first game and there were not any covered seats available. I had my young son with me and our seats were uncovered. There were stewards in the upper deck at the time and i also noticed that a group of people managed to stay in the upper deck of the hogan throughout the second game.
There were plenty of covered seats free in the lower Hogan during both games.

Maguire01

Quote from: armaghniac on August 05, 2014, 04:42:08 PM
One issue is that people might be accommodated last Saturday by moving upstairs etc, but some of the those people will then  show up next Saturday with no coat when the place is full also expecting to move.
Well if they show up with no coat on a rainy day they deserve to be soaked.