The Official 2016 US Presidential election thread

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foxcommander

Quote from: stew on December 09, 2015, 07:02:07 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on December 09, 2015, 03:57:35 AM
Quote from: heganboy on December 09, 2015, 12:23:43 AM
I keep thinking that the Donald has just made *the* mistake that will be the tipping point, but I have been continuously wrong.
At this point, he is the Teflon Don, nothing sticks.
Now he has the US Department of Defense's press secretary saying his statements are "counter to our national security."

QuoteThe Pentagon on Tuesday rebuffed Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump's call to ban all Muslims from entering the U.S.

"Anything that creates tensions and creates the notion that the United States is at odds with the Muslim faith and Islam would be counterproductive to our efforts right now, and totally contrary to our values," Pentagon press secretary Peter Cook said.

Asked specifically whether the Pentagon opposed the ban, Cook said, "I'm not going to get into domestic politics."

But, he reiterated, "Anything that tries to challenge American values on this would be certainly something of concern to the Department of Defense, as it would be across the country."
Cook also noted that there were Muslims "serving patriotically in the U.S. military today, as there are people of many faiths."

He also noted that the U.S. was partnering with Muslim nations in the fight against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.

"Anything that bolsters ISIL's narrative and pits the United States against the Muslim faith is -- is certainly not only contrary to our values, but contrary to our national security," he added, using an alternate name for the group.

I think its safe to say that if this comment was made by DOD referring to literally any other candidate, their campaign would be over by nightfall. However no bother to the big fella, he will truck along happily at this point to be the Republican nominee, or the independent candidate if the GOP feel they can't keep him under control...

Fascinating stuff- there really has never been anything this mental in US politics at this level in 50 years.

Donald Trump will kick out all the illegal immigrants and give America back to it's people after 8 years of incompetence from president Osama. Why wouldn't you vote for that? The change you were promised was a busted flush.

He's going to be awesome.

He is an arrogant d**khead and will never be President.

My biggest concern with Trump is that he is a complete reactionary and does not have a level head, he has no filter and he is promising shit that is unconstitutional, like blocking Muslims from coming into the country if they have Visas to be here, I get he is appealing to the lowbrow voters but there are not enough of them to carry him to the Presidency.

The people want a strong leader who will take no shit from Muslim extremists, they want a secure border north and south and they want to know Obama is not flooding the nation with Jihadists.

Amendments can be made to the constitution. Why not if the people vote for it by endorsing President Trump.
The logjam and inaction is by the politicians that are on the corporate payrolls and vote accordingly.

We get that Fine Gael lad McElvanney lining his pockets, these guys do it on a far grander scale.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

stew

Now Trump is going to ask Bill Gates to 'close the internet' A lot of GOP people think he is a plant from the Democrats, and he has prior form as a Democrat so who knows.

The man has officially done himself in and his polling numbers are going to head south in the coming weeks.
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

seafoid

The GOP is in crisis, by the looks of things. Karl Rove could gather the votes in over a few simple themes over the last decade but the party finds that much harder now. Gay marriage is no longer incendiary, for example. And it's hard to sell the American Dream when voters know it's a joke.

stew

Quote from: seafoid on December 09, 2015, 08:05:04 PM
The GOP is in crisis, by the looks of things. Karl Rove could gather the votes in over a few simple themes over the last decade but the party finds that much harder now. Gay marriage is no longer incendiary, for example. And it's hard to sell the American Dream when voters know it's a joke.

It would help if the democrats stopped sending clowns like Trump over to eff up the GOP's chances.

The democrats will let them all in, more votes for the law breakers, ach sure when you don't believe in having illegals in the country screw the law of the land and let them in in their droves, more votes for the left further down the line.
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

Rossfan

What a pity the Native Americans didn't fcuk out all the illegal aliens who broke into their lands 500 years ago.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

dec

Quote from: stew on December 09, 2015, 07:57:46 PM
Now Trump is going to ask Bill Gates to 'close the internet' A lot of GOP people think he is a plant from the Democrats, and he has prior form as a Democrat so who knows.

The man has officially done himself in and his polling numbers are going to head south in the coming weeks.

If he is a plant from the Democrats why are so many Republican primary voters saying they support him?

J70

Quote from: dec on December 09, 2015, 08:45:00 PM
Quote from: stew on December 09, 2015, 07:57:46 PM
Now Trump is going to ask Bill Gates to 'close the internet' A lot of GOP people think he is a plant from the Democrats, and he has prior form as a Democrat so who knows.

The man has officially done himself in and his polling numbers are going to head south in the coming weeks.

If he is a plant from the Democrats why are so many Republican primary voters saying they support him?

Suddenly it all makes sense. All those mornings on Fox and Friends frothing about the birth cert. It was all to benefit Obama and the Clintons!  ;D


muppet

Quote from: whitey on December 09, 2015, 04:52:44 PM
Quote from: Hardy on December 09, 2015, 04:45:36 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 09, 2015, 04:12:05 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 09, 2015, 03:08:57 PM
The Republicans are reaping what they've sewn over the past 7 years. They embraced the tea party and the birthers and the "no mosque at Ground Zero" crowd.

Let them choke on it!

(One does wonder where the birthers are now with Ted Cruz polling high?!)

lol-you really think building a mosque/Islamic Center a couple of blocks was from the World Trade Center was a good idea ? 
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/muslim-scholar-dont-build-islamic-center/


Maybe you should suggest building a monument to the Parachute Regiment in the Bogside while you are at it!!  You can't tarnish all Paratroopers with the same brush you know.....only a very small minority shot civilians dead during Bloody Sunday

Have you been reading the Donald Trump book of ignorant analogies?  The analogy you were reaching for, but that would of course blow your bigoted point out of the water, would be to build a Protestant Church in Derry (assuming the majority of the killer Paras were C of E).

A small sub faction of a large group (the British military) committed an atrocity in Derry

A small faction (jihadists) of a bigger group (Muslims) committed an atrocity on 9/11

It's exactly the same. The majority of Nationalists wouldn't want a memorial to the British Military in their neighborhood and the majority of Americans were against the Islamic Center

It was Saudis who carried out 911.

Despite funding ISIS and other Jihadists, Saudi remains an 'ally'.

If the Saudis wanted to build a mosque in Central Park the GOP would let them.
MWWSI 2017

stew

Quote from: dec on December 09, 2015, 08:45:00 PM
Quote from: stew on December 09, 2015, 07:57:46 PM
Now Trump is going to ask Bill Gates to 'close the internet' A lot of GOP people think he is a plant from the Democrats, and he has prior form as a Democrat so who knows.

The man has officially done himself in and his polling numbers are going to head south in the coming weeks.

If he is a plant from the Democrats why are so many Republican primary voters saying they support him?

It's not like they have not done that before...................... and the electorate are sheep.

In related news, that aul bigot Jimmy Carter agrees with the Donald that Muslims should be banned from coming into America, he should know, he has prior form at the same craic!  ;)
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

Jell 0 Biafra

Yes, banned them all, "unless they oppose the Shiite Islamist regime or had a medical emergency."

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/jimmy-carter-barred-iranians/2015/12/09/id/705127/

That's exactly the same as what Trump is proposing.

whitey

Not to mention Bernies essay about women enjoying getting gang raped-hypocrisy is a fvckin joke

easytiger95

Wow - instead of dealing with the issue that Donald Trump is a racist, fascist demagogue who is currently being supported by 30% of the Republican party, and who has dragged the field (although there was not much dragging on some of them) destructively to the right, we get this from our more conservative minded posters -

Trump is a fascist, because Obama

Republicans are anti muslim, because the 9/11 mosque

Republicans are racist, because, you know, the Democrats were first

I never knew just how deeply Fox News talking points embed themselves into the skull. Well done lads, you've completely ignored the causes and ramifications of Trump's deeply disgusting charade.

Do you know what, I think Trump is just a bluffing narcissist who has gone too far and doesn't know how to stop. He loves praise and he found an easy way of getting it. I'd say he never thought that he'd get this far, that he could run as an outsider and spend his maverick credit for the next four years saying "I told you so".

What he didn't count on was 30% of a major political party drinking his Kool Aid quite as enthusiastically as they did. Whatever happens now with Trump, the GOP as it stands is dead - and in the next election cycle we will see what happens to the remnants after the split.


armaghniac

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on December 10, 2015, 12:28:33 AM
Yes, banned them all, "unless they oppose the Shiite Islamist regime or had a medical emergency."

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/jimmy-carter-barred-iranians/2015/12/09/id/705127/

That's exactly the same as what Trump is proposing.

It isn't really the same. If a nation is in a state of conflict with you then not admitting its citizens is fairly routine.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

J70

Quote from: stew on December 10, 2015, 12:14:51 AM
Quote from: dec on December 09, 2015, 08:45:00 PM
Quote from: stew on December 09, 2015, 07:57:46 PM
Now Trump is going to ask Bill Gates to 'close the internet' A lot of GOP people think he is a plant from the Democrats, and he has prior form as a Democrat so who knows.

The man has officially done himself in and his polling numbers are going to head south in the coming weeks.

If he is a plant from the Democrats why are so many Republican primary voters saying they support him?

It's not like they have not done that before...................... and the electorate are sheep.

In related news, that aul bigot Jimmy Carter agrees with the Donald that Muslims should be banned from coming into America, he should know, he has prior form at the same craic!  ;)

Pathetic.

Trump is not proposing placing restrictions on a nation after undergoing a revolution hostile to the US and holding US hostages. He is proposing barring ALL members of a worldwide religion.