26 Counties Poll for Euro Elections

Started by AZOffaly, May 21, 2014, 10:26:56 AM

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Who will you vote for in the Euro Elections (First Preference Only)

Fine Gael
8 (9.6%)
Labour
0 (0%)
Fianna Fail
4 (4.8%)
Sinn Fein
32 (38.6%)
Green Party
5 (6%)
Socialist Party
1 (1.2%)
People Before Profit
1 (1.2%)
Direct Democracy Ireland
0 (0%)
Independents
17 (20.5%)
Fís Nua
0 (0%)
Catholic Democrats
2 (2.4%)
Other
0 (0%)
Won't/Can't vote
13 (15.7%)

Total Members Voted: 83

AZOffaly

Quote from: Hardy on May 22, 2014, 01:07:29 PM
I've just had my first ever SF canvasser call to the door.  He didn't ring, just threw a leaflet into the porch. Maybe I have a reputation that I don't know about, but I've never savaged anyone going about their democratic business. Not severely, anyway.

I must say he cut a different figure to the besuited, collared and tied FG and FF crusaders I'm more used to. Check shirt, front out, back tucked in, crumpled jeans, Celtic cross hanging from one ear by a chain. (I know that last bit is a caricature, but I swear I'm not making it up.)

Anyway, he abided impeccably by the etiquette guidelines - no trampling on roses. But it was an easy test. I don't have any roses.

I might put a number after his man's name, just to recognise the effort - there's a big steep hill up to our place.



AZOffaly

Why have you Graham Geraghty in your house? Is that a banjo I hear in the background?

Hardy

Quote from: AZOffaly on May 22, 2014, 02:29:14 PM
Why have you Graham Geraghty in your house? Is that a banjo I hear in the background?

Who did you expect - Willie Bryan?

AZOffaly

Quote from: Hardy on May 22, 2014, 02:29:55 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 22, 2014, 02:29:14 PM
Why have you Graham Geraghty in your house? Is that a banjo I hear in the background?

Who did you expect - Willie Bryan?

;D

Maguire01

Quote from: Nally Stand on May 22, 2014, 11:34:43 AM
Quote from: trileacman on May 22, 2014, 01:33:37 AM
It may seem appealing to vote Shinner but if you lived up here you'd realise their the same money-grubbing hoors you've been used to all along. You can kid yourselves they're better than Labour / FF / FG or the Greens but in reality they're all the f**king same. Populist gobshites who'll spin you any ould shite of a yarn to get into power and as soon as they get there they'll shit on all the policies and promises they made to you before.

Think of them as Labour but with a green poster.

At the minute I've a SF member of Parliament for the past 13 years but he doesn't attend Westminster in any shape or form and never has. Despite this he still draws down nearly every fund he's "entitled" to as a MP, explain the difference in that to Shatter claiming he's "entitled" to but doesn't deserve either? 13 years and not once has his voice been heard in the office he was appointed to. A well seasoned turnip could replace my MP in the morning and literally I would be no worse represented.

My SF MEP is Braribhe deBrun who's single greatest accomplishment in 10 years is to ensure EU documents get printed in Irish. She quit in 2012 according to Wikipedia which is news to me. I'd say greater than 70% of voters like myself haven't noticed her absence one bit. She rarely give speeches in English, preferring Irish because hey it's better no-one understands what the fcuk your saying rather than have a few understand.

I've 3 Shinner MLA's but they can't get anything passed because Stromont is on strike since the Hass debacle. Most of our European counter-parts and competitors (including the Free State) have implemented a stringent BVD control program to eradicate a significant bovine disease which costs the agriculture industry here in excess of 1 million a year. Initially we were meant to initiate the program with the Irish program. They started in 2012 and we were told we'd start a year behind. Since we were told we'd start in March, then July but still no word or sign of it. As of now we are 2 years or more behind Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England. All because our MLA's have been instructed by there parties not to agree on any legislation purely to spite the each other, you wouldn't get such thick, hateful fcukers in a creche never mind a regional democracy.

I've a Shinner Agriculture minister who thinks milk farmers sleep in at weekends and who's previous experience with agriculture would be sniffing the smell of shite as she drove through the countryside. Again FG's Coveney has more than 6 months ago dictated specifically the details of the CAP payment changes for the next 5 years to 2019. As of writing my SF minister has decided absolutely diddly squat. I can show you information leaflets in which the only specific info is that they are "unsure" of the future form of CAP payments. Once again we are the slow fckuers behind the Welsh, Scots, English and Irish.

So lads don't get your hopes up for the Shinners, they'll spin you whatever crock you want to hear but in reality they are as ineffectual, petty and corrupt as the lads you are used to.

Hardly one to accuse anyone else of spinning crock. I don't think abstaining from westminster is breaking a promise considering he stood for election on an abstentionist ticket. And why wouldn't SF members claim their expenses from Westminster. They don't attend the House of Commons, but they are still active MPs running their constituency offices, so dry your eyes. Maybe you'd prefer they took the stoops approach: take an oath of allegiance to get into the commons, then become among the worst attendees in it, but occasionally show up for a little nap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiEUDeLX-hY.

P.s. Bairbre DeBrun stepped down on health grounds. It was widely reported at the time. That you didn't know this says more about you than it does about anyone else.
Taking an 'oath' is a mere formality, much like donning a white tie, standing for GSTQ and toasting the Queen. It's the things you're expected to do when you're elected to represent all your constituents.

And i'd expect all MPs from NI to be among those with the lowest attendance records - they're hardly going to be in Westminster to vote on issues like Education, Health etc. that are devolved to the Assembly - what's the point on attending / voting on issues in Westminster that impact England only?

Saffrongael

Quote from: Maguire01 on May 22, 2014, 07:35:11 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on May 22, 2014, 11:34:43 AM
Quote from: trileacman on May 22, 2014, 01:33:37 AM
It may seem appealing to vote Shinner but if you lived up here you'd realise their the same money-grubbing hoors you've been used to all along. You can kid yourselves they're better than Labour / FF / FG or the Greens but in reality they're all the f**king same. Populist gobshites who'll spin you any ould shite of a yarn to get into power and as soon as they get there they'll shit on all the policies and promises they made to you before.

Think of them as Labour but with a green poster.

At the minute I've a SF member of Parliament for the past 13 years but he doesn't attend Westminster in any shape or form and never has. Despite this he still draws down nearly every fund he's "entitled" to as a MP, explain the difference in that to Shatter claiming he's "entitled" to but doesn't deserve either? 13 years and not once has his voice been heard in the office he was appointed to. A well seasoned turnip could replace my MP in the morning and literally I would be no worse represented.

My SF MEP is Braribhe deBrun who's single greatest accomplishment in 10 years is to ensure EU documents get printed in Irish. She quit in 2012 according to Wikipedia which is news to me. I'd say greater than 70% of voters like myself haven't noticed her absence one bit. She rarely give speeches in English, preferring Irish because hey it's better no-one understands what the fcuk your saying rather than have a few understand.

I've 3 Shinner MLA's but they can't get anything passed because Stromont is on strike since the Hass debacle. Most of our European counter-parts and competitors (including the Free State) have implemented a stringent BVD control program to eradicate a significant bovine disease which costs the agriculture industry here in excess of 1 million a year. Initially we were meant to initiate the program with the Irish program. They started in 2012 and we were told we'd start a year behind. Since we were told we'd start in March, then July but still no word or sign of it. As of now we are 2 years or more behind Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England. All because our MLA's have been instructed by there parties not to agree on any legislation purely to spite the each other, you wouldn't get such thick, hateful fcukers in a creche never mind a regional democracy.

I've a Shinner Agriculture minister who thinks milk farmers sleep in at weekends and who's previous experience with agriculture would be sniffing the smell of shite as she drove through the countryside. Again FG's Coveney has more than 6 months ago dictated specifically the details of the CAP payment changes for the next 5 years to 2019. As of writing my SF minister has decided absolutely diddly squat. I can show you information leaflets in which the only specific info is that they are "unsure" of the future form of CAP payments. Once again we are the slow fckuers behind the Welsh, Scots, English and Irish.

So lads don't get your hopes up for the Shinners, they'll spin you whatever crock you want to hear but in reality they are as ineffectual, petty and corrupt as the lads you are used to.

Hardly one to accuse anyone else of spinning crock. I don't think abstaining from westminster is breaking a promise considering he stood for election on an abstentionist ticket. And why wouldn't SF members claim their expenses from Westminster. They don't attend the House of Commons, but they are still active MPs running their constituency offices, so dry your eyes. Maybe you'd prefer they took the stoops approach: take an oath of allegiance to get into the commons, then become among the worst attendees in it, but occasionally show up for a little nap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiEUDeLX-hY.

P.s. Bairbre DeBrun stepped down on health grounds. It was widely reported at the time. That you didn't know this says more about you than it does about anyone else.
Taking an 'oath' is a mere formality, much like donning a white tie, standing for GSTQ and toasting the Queen. It's the things you're expected to do when you're elected to represent all your constituents.

And i'd expect all MPs from NI to be among those with the lowest attendance records - they're hardly going to be in Westminster to vote on issues like Education, Health etc. that are devolved to the Assembly - what's the point on attending / voting on issues in Westminster that impact England only?

What about "abstentionism" in the local council you are elected to represent your constituents in ?

In Irish News a few weeks ago it was reported Moyle Sinn Fein councillor Noreen McAllister has the lowest attendance record of any councillor in six counties, attending only 36% of full council meetings.

That's some representation.
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

foxcommander

Quote from: Hound on May 22, 2014, 10:16:54 AM
Their ideas are that politicians would be given less responsbility than the carte blanche they currently get when elected - more referendums on the important issues, and when a politician does something clearly improper or reneges on their election promises, the people can impeach him/her. Apparently this system is in place in Switzerland and they claim it works very well there.

It should be the standard. Would stop the fake promises made at election time and make them accountable for their actions.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: trileacman on May 22, 2014, 01:33:37 AM
It may seem appealing to vote Shinner but if you lived up here you'd realise their the same money-grubbing hoors you've been used to all along. You can kid yourselves they're better than Labour / FF / FG or the Greens but in reality they're all the f**king same. Populist gobshites who'll spin you any ould shite of a yarn to get into power and as soon as they get there they'll shit on all the policies and promises they made to you before.

Think of them as Labour but with a green poster.

At the minute I've a SF member of Parliament for the past 13 years but he doesn't attend Westminster in any shape or form and never has. Despite this he still draws down nearly every fund he's "entitled" to as a MP, explain the difference in that to Shatter claiming he's "entitled" to but doesn't deserve either? 13 years and not once has his voice been heard in the office he was appointed to. A well seasoned turnip could replace my MP in the morning and literally I would be no worse represented.

My SF MEP is Braribhe deBrun who's single greatest accomplishment in 10 years is to ensure EU documents get printed in Irish. She quit in 2012 according to Wikipedia which is news to me. I'd say greater than 70% of voters like myself haven't noticed her absence one bit. She rarely give speeches in English, preferring Irish because hey it's better no-one understands what the fcuk your saying rather than have a few understand.

I've 3 Shinner MLA's but they can't get anything passed because Stromont is on strike since the Hass debacle. Most of our European counter-parts and competitors (including the Free State) have implemented a stringent BVD control program to eradicate a significant bovine disease which costs the agriculture industry here in excess of 1 million a year. Initially we were meant to initiate the program with the Irish program. They started in 2012 and we were told we'd start a year behind. Since we were told we'd start in March, then July but still no word or sign of it. As of now we are 2 years or more behind Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England. All because our MLA's have been instructed by there parties not to agree on any legislation purely to spite the each other, you wouldn't get such thick, hateful fcukers in a creche never mind a regional democracy.

I've a Shinner Agriculture minister who thinks milk farmers sleep in at weekends and who's previous experience with agriculture would be sniffing the smell of shite as she drove through the countryside. Again FG's Coveney has more than 6 months ago dictated specifically the details of the CAP payment changes for the next 5 years to 2019. As of writing my SF minister has decided absolutely diddly squat. I can show you information leaflets in which the only specific info is that they are "unsure" of the future form of CAP payments. Once again we are the slow fckuers behind the Welsh, Scots, English and Irish.

So lads don't get your hopes up for the Shinners, they'll spin you whatever crock you want to hear but in reality they are as ineffectual, petty and corrupt as the lads you are used to.

Feck me, can't say I'm too surprised that they (the Shinners) would give such a whingebag such short shrift! :P

Suppose you'd prefer a gerrymandered Orange representative, that would actually do his (sic - they'd didn't do 'her' back then either) damnedest to ensure you secured neither house nor employment, purely by dint of the accident of your birth.
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

lynchbhoy

Going to be hard not to vote FF I have to admit
..........

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: Hardy on May 22, 2014, 01:07:29 PM
I might put a number after his man's name, just to recognise the effort - there's a big steep hill up to our place.

Glad you're finding your way down (and he, his way up)! ;)

Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: lynchbhoy on May 22, 2014, 09:58:59 PM
Going to be hard not to vote FF I have to admit

Fcuk's sake lynchbhoy!... FF + FG + LAB = #IrelandsDomesticTroika

They, the three of them, cheer led the bankruptcy, and the consequent squeeze on the poor, one and all. Shower of basturds. Taking peanuts off the poor is as low as any administration can go, and to hand it over to the casino capitalists without so much as a whimper is reprehensible. And they're ALL equally culpable.
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

lynchbhoy

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 22, 2014, 10:09:41 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on May 22, 2014, 09:58:59 PM
Going to be hard not to vote FF I have to admit

Fcuk's sake lynchbhoy!... FF + FG + LAB = #IrelandsDomesticTroika

They, the three of them, cheer led the bankruptcy, and the consequent squeeze on the poor, one and all. Shower of basturds. Taking peanuts off the poor is as low as any administration can go, and to hand it over to the casino capitalists without so much as a whimper is reprehensible. And they're ALL equally culpable.
Yer prob right

I just won't bother my hole voting at all
..........

Nally Stand

Quote from: Saffrongael on May 22, 2014, 08:06:40 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on May 22, 2014, 07:35:11 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on May 22, 2014, 11:34:43 AM
Quote from: trileacman on May 22, 2014, 01:33:37 AM
It may seem appealing to vote Shinner but if you lived up here you'd realise their the same money-grubbing hoors you've been used to all along. You can kid yourselves they're better than Labour / FF / FG or the Greens but in reality they're all the f**king same. Populist gobshites who'll spin you any ould shite of a yarn to get into power and as soon as they get there they'll shit on all the policies and promises they made to you before.

Think of them as Labour but with a green poster.

At the minute I've a SF member of Parliament for the past 13 years but he doesn't attend Westminster in any shape or form and never has. Despite this he still draws down nearly every fund he's "entitled" to as a MP, explain the difference in that to Shatter claiming he's "entitled" to but doesn't deserve either? 13 years and not once has his voice been heard in the office he was appointed to. A well seasoned turnip could replace my MP in the morning and literally I would be no worse represented.

My SF MEP is Braribhe deBrun who's single greatest accomplishment in 10 years is to ensure EU documents get printed in Irish. She quit in 2012 according to Wikipedia which is news to me. I'd say greater than 70% of voters like myself haven't noticed her absence one bit. She rarely give speeches in English, preferring Irish because hey it's better no-one understands what the fcuk your saying rather than have a few understand.

I've 3 Shinner MLA's but they can't get anything passed because Stromont is on strike since the Hass debacle. Most of our European counter-parts and competitors (including the Free State) have implemented a stringent BVD control program to eradicate a significant bovine disease which costs the agriculture industry here in excess of 1 million a year. Initially we were meant to initiate the program with the Irish program. They started in 2012 and we were told we'd start a year behind. Since we were told we'd start in March, then July but still no word or sign of it. As of now we are 2 years or more behind Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England. All because our MLA's have been instructed by there parties not to agree on any legislation purely to spite the each other, you wouldn't get such thick, hateful fcukers in a creche never mind a regional democracy.

I've a Shinner Agriculture minister who thinks milk farmers sleep in at weekends and who's previous experience with agriculture would be sniffing the smell of shite as she drove through the countryside. Again FG's Coveney has more than 6 months ago dictated specifically the details of the CAP payment changes for the next 5 years to 2019. As of writing my SF minister has decided absolutely diddly squat. I can show you information leaflets in which the only specific info is that they are "unsure" of the future form of CAP payments. Once again we are the slow fckuers behind the Welsh, Scots, English and Irish.

So lads don't get your hopes up for the Shinners, they'll spin you whatever crock you want to hear but in reality they are as ineffectual, petty and corrupt as the lads you are used to.

Hardly one to accuse anyone else of spinning crock. I don't think abstaining from westminster is breaking a promise considering he stood for election on an abstentionist ticket. And why wouldn't SF members claim their expenses from Westminster. They don't attend the House of Commons, but they are still active MPs running their constituency offices, so dry your eyes. Maybe you'd prefer they took the stoops approach: take an oath of allegiance to get into the commons, then become among the worst attendees in it, but occasionally show up for a little nap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiEUDeLX-hY.

P.s. Bairbre DeBrun stepped down on health grounds. It was widely reported at the time. That you didn't know this says more about you than it does about anyone else.
Taking an 'oath' is a mere formality, much like donning a white tie, standing for GSTQ and toasting the Queen. It's the things you're expected to do when you're elected to represent all your constituents.

And i'd expect all MPs from NI to be among those with the lowest attendance records - they're hardly going to be in Westminster to vote on issues like Education, Health etc. that are devolved to the Assembly - what's the point on attending / voting on issues in Westminster that impact England only?

What about "abstentionism" in the local council you are elected to represent your constituents in ?

In Irish News a few weeks ago it was reported Moyle Sinn Fein councillor Noreen McAllister has the lowest attendance record of any councillor in six counties, attending only 36% of full council meetings.

That's some representation.
If I remember correctly, the same report also showed SF as joint highest or second highest attendees. Odd that you didn't mention that in favour of picking out just one isolated individual hmmm.
"The island of saints & scholars...and gombeens & fuckin' arselickers" Christy Moore

trileacman

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 22, 2014, 09:52:24 PM
Feck me, can't say I'm too surprised that they (the Shinners) would give such a whingebag such short shrift! :P

Suppose you'd prefer a gerrymandered Orange representative, that would actually do his (sic - they'd didn't do 'her' back then either) damnedest to ensure you secured neither house nor employment, purely by dint of the accident of your birth.

You see there's the fuckin problem in a nutshell.

"All protestants are gerrymandering Orange ba$tards whose only intention is to run us out of work and home, so I should use all my time to spite them and give none to building a sustainable region or bread and butter issues."

Sure how can any progress be achieved when dissenting voices are plainly written off as being loving English hoors? You didn't challenge any of my assertions on agriculture it's all just "ha, you're talking like a fcking prod."
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