Dubl$n v Laois Sunday June 8th 2014 Dubl$n at home as always

[From the Bunker]

Back to the game and thread title. When the final whistle blew here I noticed a bit of mutisl respect among the players and along with the handshakes there were a few chats going on around the field.. That's what Laois need to earn more of and the only way they will do it is by putting in performances like Ross Munnelly and not by complaining. There was no calls to split Dublin into two teams for their hurlers a few years ago nor did Daly ask foe Kilkenny and Cork to be split, he embraced what they were doing and did it better - because the mutual respect his team have now earned allows him to engage with other counties where valuable challenge games are part of his plan.

HThe dedication and time that is put in by the Dublin hurlers is hard to comprehend and it has nothing to do with the size of the county or money, neither of which ever put a ball in ghe back of the net. Unless we want to go back to the days of playing in peaked caps we should be trying to copy the Dubs. Population didn't bother Uruguay who are as small as Ireland when they won the World Cup among many other achievements in the same competition but we have our hymn sheet up on its stand ready to sing "we are too small as a nation" as soon as a ball hits the net. Nobody is too small on this planet, weak from lack of motivation maybe but never too small.

That's a terrific post.

Lads ye are in cloud cuckoo land if you think money or population does not make a difference. The Uruguay example happened nearly 70 years ago! The days when Louth could think of winning an AI. These days are gone. Look at even Offaly who could punch above their weight in both codes. Not anymore! Dublin is a monster of a machine. It will become the Celtic of the GAA. Big home pitch, top players, big following, attractive to sponsorship deals. There will be no living with them. There will be a few counties who will huff and puff every couple of years. But the money and population are in the Capital and there is nothing that can be done but plough on. As tradition dictates Dublin can't be divided. And if it were, what are the grounds for mergers of other counties to bring them up to speed?  So that's it there is no other alternative really.

[Johnnybegood]

Back to the game and thread title. When the final whistle blew here I noticed a bit of mutisl respect among the players and along with the handshakes there were a few chats going on around the field.. That's what Laois need to earn more of and the only way they will do it is by putting in performances like Ross Munnelly and not by complaining. There was no calls to split Dublin into two teams for their hurlers a few years ago nor did Daly ask foe Kilkenny and Cork to be split, he embraced what they were doing and did it better - because the mutual respect his team have now earned allows him to engage with other counties where valuable challenge games are part of his plan.

HThe dedication and time that is put in by the Dublin hurlers is hard to comprehend and it has nothing to do with the size of the county or money, neither of which ever put a ball in ghe back of the net. Unless we want to go back to the days of playing in peaked caps we should be trying to copy the Dubs. Population didn't bother Uruguay who are as small as Ireland when they won the World Cup among many other achievements in the same competition but we have our hymn sheet up on its stand ready to sing "we are too small as a nation" as soon as a ball hits the net. Nobody is too small on this planet, weak from lack of motivation maybe but never too small.

That's a terrific post.

Lads ye are in cloud cuckoo land if you think money or population does not make a difference. The Uruguay example happened nearly 70 years ago! The days when Louth could think of winning an AI. These days are gone. Look at even Offaly who could punch above their weight in both codes. Not anymore! Dublin is a monster of a machine. It will become the Celtic of the GAA. Big home pitch, top players, big following, attractive to sponsorship deals. There will be no living with them. There will be a few counties who will huff and puff every couple of years. But the money and population are in the Capital and there is nothing that can be done but plough on. As tradition dictates Dublin can't be divided. And if it were, what are the grounds for mergers of other counties to bring them up to speed?  So that's it there is no other alternative really.

eh Uruguay reached the semi final of the 2010 world cup
Killkenny have shagg all of a population which doesn't seem to stop them winning all irelands. And likewise Kerry, underperforming counties such as Galway kildare Meath etc need to get their house in order, the bar has been raised by Dublin and its up whoever wants to join the party to sort their own affairs.

[laoislad]

Back to the game and thread title. When the final whistle blew here I noticed a bit of mutisl respect among the players and along with the handshakes there were a few chats going on around the field.. That's what Laois need to earn more of and the only way they will do it is by putting in performances like Ross Munnelly and not by complaining. There was no calls to split Dublin into two teams for their hurlers a few years ago nor did Daly ask foe Kilkenny and Cork to be split, he embraced what they were doing and did it better - because the mutual respect his team have now earned allows him to engage with other counties where valuable challenge games are part of his plan.

HThe dedication and time that is put in by the Dublin hurlers is hard to comprehend and it has nothing to do with the size of the county or money, neither of which ever put a ball in ghe back of the net. Unless we want to go back to the days of playing in peaked caps we should be trying to copy the Dubs. Population didn't bother Uruguay who are as small as Ireland when they won the World Cup among many other achievements in the same competition but we have our hymn sheet up on its stand ready to sing "we are too small as a nation" as soon as a ball hits the net. Nobody is too small on this planet, weak from lack of motivation maybe but never too small.

That's a terrific post.

Lads ye are in cloud cuckoo land if you think money or population does not make a difference. The Uruguay example happened nearly 70 years ago! The days when Louth could think of winning an AI. These days are gone. Look at even Offaly who could punch above their weight in both codes. Not anymore! Dublin is a monster of a machine. It will become the Celtic of the GAA. Big home pitch, top players, big following, attractive to sponsorship deals. There will be no living with them. There will be a few counties who will huff and puff every couple of years. But the money and population are in the Capital and there is nothing that can be done but plough on. As tradition dictates Dublin can't be divided. And if it were, what are the grounds for mergers of other counties to bring them up to speed?  So that's it there is no other alternative really.

[From the Bunker]

Back to the game and thread title. When the final whistle blew here I noticed a bit of mutisl respect among the players and along with the handshakes there were a few chats going on around the field.. That's what Laois need to earn more of and the only way they will do it is by putting in performances like Ross Munnelly and not by complaining. There was no calls to split Dublin into two teams for their hurlers a few years ago nor did Daly ask foe Kilkenny and Cork to be split, he embraced what they were doing and did it better - because the mutual respect his team have now earned allows him to engage with other counties where valuable challenge games are part of his plan.

HThe dedication and time that is put in by the Dublin hurlers is hard to comprehend and it has nothing to do with the size of the county or money, neither of which ever put a ball in ghe back of the net. Unless we want to go back to the days of playing in peaked caps we should be trying to copy the Dubs. Population didn't bother Uruguay who are as small as Ireland when they won the World Cup among many other achievements in the same competition but we have our hymn sheet up on its stand ready to sing "we are too small as a nation" as soon as a ball hits the net. Nobody is too small on this planet, weak from lack of motivation maybe but never too small.

That's a terrific post.

Lads ye are in cloud cuckoo land if you think money or population does not make a difference. The Uruguay example happened nearly 70 years ago! The days when Louth could think of winning an AI. These days are gone. Look at even Offaly who could punch above their weight in both codes. Not anymore! Dublin is a monster of a machine. It will become the Celtic of the GAA. Big home pitch, top players, big following, attractive to sponsorship deals. There will be no living with them. There will be a few counties who will huff and puff every couple of years. But the money and population are in the Capital and there is nothing that can be done but plough on. As tradition dictates Dublin can't be divided. And if it were, what are the grounds for mergers of other counties to bring them up to speed?  So that's it there is no other alternative really.

eh Uruguay reached the semi final of the 2010 world cup
Killkenny have shagg all of a population which doesn't seem to stop them winning all irelands. And likewise Kerry, underperforming counties such as Galway kildare Meath etc need to get their house in order, the bar has been raised by Dublin and its up whoever wants to join the party to sort their own affairs.

Ah look we are talking about winning here. Not moral victories are we not? Anyway it's keep up time. The penny has finally dropped for Dublin. They have been meandering in or around being a force for the last 25 years. Strong characters and the GAA taking on ''Foreign Codes'' in the Capital has set them with a great platform. The rest of us can only look on with envy (really). This is the beginning of the end of allot of the old way of the GAA.

[Johnnybegood]

What do mean 'the beginning of the old way of the GAA' ?

[lynchbhoy]

So if the same money was 'pumped ' into Laois
Would they be at the same level in football and hurling as where Dublin are now?

At senior level in football no

Why not?

Don't understand your comment about strongish base - plenty of Laois senior clubs ( Arles, portlaoise) have been v competitive in Leinster this past decade

[PaddyP73]

What do mean 'the beginning of the old way of the GAA' ?

another excuse for Mayo failure to win a All-Ireland

[PaddyP73]

Back to the game and thread title. When the final whistle blew here I noticed a bit of mutisl respect among the players and along with the handshakes there were a few chats going on around the field.. That's what Laois need to earn more of and the only way they will do it is by putting in performances like Ross Munnelly and not by complaining. There was no calls to split Dublin into two teams for their hurlers a few years ago nor did Daly ask foe Kilkenny and Cork to be split, he embraced what they were doing and did it better - because the mutual respect his team have now earned allows him to engage with other counties where valuable challenge games are part of his plan.

HThe dedication and time that is put in by the Dublin hurlers is hard to comprehend and it has nothing to do with the size of the county or money, neither of which ever put a ball in ghe back of the net. Unless we want to go back to the days of playing in peaked caps we should be trying to copy the Dubs. Population didn't bother Uruguay who are as small as Ireland when they won the World Cup among many other achievements in the same competition but we have our hymn sheet up on its stand ready to sing "we are too small as a nation" as soon as a ball hits the net. Nobody is too small on this planet, weak from lack of motivation maybe but never too small.

That's a terrific post.

Lads ye are in cloud cuckoo land if you think money or population does not make a difference. The Uruguay example happened nearly 70 years ago! The days when Louth could think of winning an AI. These days are gone. Look at even Offaly who could punch above their weight in both codes. Not anymore! Dublin is a monster of a machine. It will become the Celtic of the GAA. Big home pitch, top players, big following, attractive to sponsorship deals. There will be no living with them. There will be a few counties who will huff and puff every couple of years. But the money and population are in the Capital and there is nothing that can be done but plough on. As tradition dictates Dublin can't be divided. And if it were, what are the grounds for mergers of other counties to bring them up to speed?  So that's it there is no other alternative really.

Would you divide Mayo into 2 to give the rest of Connacht a chance as ye will win your 4th title in a row next month?

[PaddyP73]

So if the same money was 'pumped ' into Laois
Would they be at the same level in football and hurling as where Dublin are now?

At senior level in football no, as Dubl$n already had a strongish base to build on. In hurling both sides were about even before the massive injection of cash. Can you imagine if Cork got all this money for example, they'd be mopping up all in front of them. The money is still flowing into Dubl$n GAA from public funds and money from OUR association, that's even after the massive sponsorship deal with aig.
All around the country clubs are struggling with lads emigrating etc and here we have the Dubs getting their players free cars, free fuel, meals cooked for the week for them, a World champion boxer telling them how to live the life etc etc. Why are people ok with this?

What about the 200k a year ye were paying Micko?
plus he bought Billy Sheehan €€€ tried to poach Declan Quill,Declan Browne €€€
Laois beat Dublin for years at minor/u21 pity all the players turned into pissheads/junkies/money grabbers
most of Laois decent players transfers to Dublin clubs for money than play for their county €€€

[PaddyP73]

Back to the game and thread title. When the final whistle blew here I noticed a bit of mutisl respect among the players and along with the handshakes there were a few chats going on around the field.. That's what Laois need to earn more of and the only way they will do it is by putting in performances like Ross Munnelly and not by complaining. There was no calls to split Dublin into two teams for their hurlers a few years ago nor did Daly ask foe Kilkenny and Cork to be split, he embraced what they were doing and did it better - because the mutual respect his team have now earned allows him to engage with other counties where valuable challenge games are part of his plan.

HThe dedication and time that is put in by the Dublin hurlers is hard to comprehend and it has nothing to do with the size of the county or money, neither of which ever put a ball in ghe back of the net. Unless we want to go back to the days of playing in peaked caps we should be trying to copy the Dubs. Population didn't bother Uruguay who are as small as Ireland when they won the World Cup among many other achievements in the same competition but we have our hymn sheet up on its stand ready to sing "we are too small as a nation" as soon as a ball hits the net. Nobody is too small on this planet, weak from lack of motivation maybe but never too small.

That's a terrific post.

Lads ye are in cloud cuckoo land if you think money or population does not make a difference. The Uruguay example happened nearly 70 years ago! The days when Louth could think of winning an AI. These days are gone. Look at even Offaly who could punch above their weight in both codes. Not anymore! Dublin is a monster of a machine. It will become the Celtic of the GAA. Big home pitch, top players, big following, attractive to sponsorship deals. There will be no living with them. There will be a few counties who will huff and puff every couple of years. But the money and population are in the Capital and there is nothing that can be done but plough on. As tradition dictates Dublin can't be divided. And if it were, what are the grounds for mergers of other counties to bring them up to speed?  So that's it there is no other alternative really.

is that Dont matter wearing his Portlaoise jersey??

[Donnellys Hollow]

So if the same money was 'pumped ' into Laois
Would they be at the same level in football and hurling as where Dublin are now?

At senior level in football no

Why not?

Don't understand your comment about strongish base - plenty of Laois senior clubs ( Arles, portlaoise) have been v competitive in Leinster this past decade

Portlaoise have had it ridiculously easy in the Laois championship recently. They have won 7 in a row and their best players like McCormack, Cahillane, Healy, Lillis and Rogers don't line out for the county team. I would have seen quite a few of the other Laois clubs in the last few years in challenge matches and their standard is generally poor enough. It's no surprise that there's a number of their county players plying their trade with Dublin superclubs despite Laois being within a commutable distance.

[Dont Matter]

So if the same money was 'pumped ' into Laois
Would they be at the same level in football and hurling as where Dublin are now?

At senior level in football no

Why not?

Don't understand your comment about strongish base - plenty of Laois senior clubs ( Arles, portlaoise) have been v competitive in Leinster this past decade

I meant Dubl$n were already getting to plenty of quarter and semi finals, they weren't good enough to win one though until the millions of euro started taking effect and along came the long list of underage talent.

[Dont Matter]

Would you divide Mayo into 2 to give the rest of Connacht a chance as ye will win your 4th title in a row next month?

Have Mayo been givin millions upon millions of euro from government and GAA funds?

What about the 200k a year ye were paying Micko?
plus he bought Billy Sheehan €€€ tried to poach Declan Quill,Declan Browne €€€
Laois beat Dublin for years at minor/u21 pity all the players turned into pissheads/junkies/money grabbers
most of Laois decent players transfers to Dublin clubs for money than play for their county €€€

Your anger is making you irrational, calm yourself down. Go to the clinic and they'll give you your treatment. You're repeated use of €€€ seems to be sending a message, you're asking for some money. Look, I don't have a euro for ya, if you want to stay in a hostel pay for it yourself.

[laoislad]

Would you divide Mayo into 2 to give the rest of Connacht a chance as ye will win your 4th title in a row next month?

Have Mayo been givin millions upon millions of euro from government and GAA funds?

What about the 200k a year ye were paying Micko?
plus he bought Billy Sheehan €€€ tried to poach Declan Quill,Declan Browne €€€
Laois beat Dublin for years at minor/u21 pity all the players turned into pissheads/junkies/money grabbers
most of Laois decent players transfers to Dublin clubs for money than play for their county €€€

Your anger is making you irrational, calm yourself down. Go to the clinic and they'll give you your treatment. You're repeated use of €€€ seems to be sending a message, you're asking for some money. Look, I don't have a euro for ya, if you want to stay in a hostel pay for it yourself.

Paddy sounds like an angry man alright   
The type of fella who might break someones jaw in an unprovoked attack even...
But sure who would do such a thing...

[Jinxy]

Whatever they paid for Billy Sheehan, it was too much.