Ireland v Australia, Rules Test 1, Breffni Park, Saturday 19 October 2013

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AZOffaly

It's called democracy muppet. How many club players are there, and how many county players? The tail definitely wags the dog in the GAA, because the money and exposure linked to the county game is so much more than the club game.

Most proposals for restructuring the inter county games seem to centre on having more games, be that champions league type groups or whatever. The obvious implication there is that the club fixtures would have to, again, adapt and accomodate these extra games.

muppet

Quote from: AZOffaly on October 15, 2013, 02:53:12 PM
It's called democracy muppet. How many club players are there, and how many county players? The tail definitely wags the dog in the GAA, because the money and exposure linked to the county game is so much more than the club game.

Most proposals for restructuring the inter county games seem to centre on having more games, be that champions league type groups or whatever. The obvious implication there is that the club fixtures would have to, again, adapt and accomodate these extra games.

I was only pointing out that Fear's search for a victim argument works both ways.

And in fairness this has nothing to do with democracy. There hasn't been a motion anywhere let alone a vote, unless someone can point me to one.
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AZOffaly

In the sense that the majority, the vast majority, seem to be regularly discommoded in order to allow for more games for the few (higher level and higher profile).  I can't imagine that's a popular situation.  However as you say, probably very few or no motions to address it. I know it's one of Zulu's bugbears.

muppet

Quote from: AZOffaly on October 15, 2013, 09:18:10 PM
In the sense that the majority, the vast majority, seem to be regularly discommoded in order to allow for more games for the few (higher level and higher profile).  I can't imagine that's a popular situation.  However as you say, probably very few or no motions to address it. I know it's one of Zulu's bugbears.

The club scheduling shambles is mainly due to the local democracies acting independently of the provincial democracies who then act independently of the central democracy.
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cavanmaniac

+1 muppet.

Every year we have player availability rows at this time because of flip-flopping, disorganised, shoddy county boards frantically trying to tie up loose ends due to a farcical lack of organisation throughout the season.

To mothball club action completely in a county during the championship is ridiculous and nonsensical when you'd have county teams waiting four or maybe five weeks between games. It's scandalous and until the club players organise as a collective and demand better treatment it will continue, largely at the behest of dictatorial intercounty managers and officials trying to appease them.

How many games on average to win one's local SFC? 6/7? And it takes four or five months to complete? Shambolic.

rodney trotter

Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 16, 2013, 01:52:02 AM
+1 muppet.

Every year we have player availability rows at this time because of flip-flopping, disorganised, shoddy county boards frantically trying to tie up loose ends due to a farcical lack of organisation throughout the season.

To mothball club action completely in a county during the championship is ridiculous and nonsensical when you'd have county teams waiting four or maybe five weeks between games. It's scandalous and until the club players organise as a collective and demand better treatment it will continue, largely at the behest of dictatorial intercounty managers and officials trying to appease them.

How many games on average to win one's local SFC? 6/7? And it takes four or five months to complete? Shambolic.

+1.. Load of balls County Championships taking so long to complete.

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rodney trotter

Wasn't referring to Cavan , Counties like Armagh and Donegal, Laois.

blewuporstuffed

And i thought the tyrone club fixtures were the only ones that were a sham....
I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either

rodney trotter

The Tyrone Championship started after Tyrone exited the championship. and the final was played last week, an improvement on those other counties.

Onion Bag

Quote from: AZOffaly on October 15, 2013, 02:53:12 PM
It's called democracy muppet. How many club players are there, and how many county players? The tail definitely wags the dog in the GAA, because the money and exposure linked to the county game is so much more than the club game.

Most proposals for restructuring the inter county games seem to centre on having more games, be that champions league type groups or whatever. The obvious implication there is that the club fixtures would have to, again, adapt and accomodate these extra games.

2% of GAA players are county Players
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muppet

Quote from: Onion Bag on October 16, 2013, 08:52:51 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 15, 2013, 02:53:12 PM
It's called democracy muppet. How many club players are there, and how many county players? The tail definitely wags the dog in the GAA, because the money and exposure linked to the county game is so much more than the club game.

Most proposals for restructuring the inter county games seem to centre on having more games, be that champions league type groups or whatever. The obvious implication there is that the club fixtures would have to, again, adapt and accomodate these extra games.

2% of GAA players are county Players

You are right. Scrap the county stuff.
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tommysmith

Quote from: muppet on October 16, 2013, 10:00:09 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 16, 2013, 08:52:51 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 15, 2013, 02:53:12 PM
It's called democracy muppet. How many club players are there, and how many county players? The tail definitely wags the dog in the GAA, because the money and exposure linked to the county game is so much more than the club game.

Most proposals for restructuring the inter county games seem to centre on having more games, be that champions league type groups or whatever. The obvious implication there is that the club fixtures would have to, again, adapt and accomodate these extra games.

2% of GAA players are county Players

You are right. Scrap the county stuff.

You would think all these championships are been over run. I would be quiet sure that most counties have there county finals fixed for this time of year and this would be decided from start of year. Its county final time of year.

rodney trotter

Not when its clashes with the International Rules which was decided months ago too, that it was known it would be played on the 19th and 26th. Play the Championship earlier and finish a week or two earlier, instead of the needless clash next weekend.

tommysmith

Quote from: rodney trotter on October 16, 2013, 10:13:19 AM
Not when its clashes with the International Rules which was decided months ago too, that it was known it would be played on the 19th and 26th. Play the Championship earlier and finish a week or two earlier, instead of the needless clash next weekend.


They don't know months ago if they will have anyone involved nevermind if their club will be still in championship.