Time to Split Dublin

Started by Dont Matter, September 22, 2013, 05:28:16 PM

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Is it right that Dublin got 7 million to implement a plan to dominate the GAA World?

Yes
43 (29.1%)
No
105 (70.9%)

Total Members Voted: 148

Fogarty

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 04, 2026, 09:10:26 AMA convenient argument.

When Dublin were winning, split them to dilute the talent.

Now they are shite, split them to consolidate the talent.

The weight of numbers argument fails. More clubs in Cork etc.

But substantitvely you are right. Gaelic games in Dublin is, and has always been far behind soccer. The success of the Dubs didn't translate into an increase in playing numbers at juvenile level.

He reality is there are, for example, 9 GAA clubs in the whole county of Dun Laoighre Rathdown (population 240k) and one of  them is a dominant superclub and about half are wobbling.

But unlike other areas of the county there are clubs. It is virtually impossible to start a club with Dublin land prices so we are then forced to funnel kids through the soulless and soul destroying superclub machine.

I have a friend in Rathfarham whose choice is Ballyboden or one of the various soccer clubs. His kid is in a friendly, community based club where he gets fame time based on merit. And that isn't in the local GAA.

The big expansion success was taking on the goys in Dalkey. Cuala worked, but play out of a soccer club. The traditional working class clubs have been thrown to the wolves as a result. They lost to soccer, so why bother?
2 or 4 Dublin county boards won't change any of this. And they certainly won't get better access to schools or parks.
Dublin has always been a city with a traditional alignment to Britain.
That's not going to change any time soon.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Fogarty on February 04, 2026, 08:09:51 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 04, 2026, 09:10:26 AMA convenient argument.

When Dublin were winning, split them to dilute the talent.

Now they are shite, split them to consolidate the talent.

The weight of numbers argument fails. More clubs in Cork etc.

But substantitvely you are right. Gaelic games in Dublin is, and has always been far behind soccer. The success of the Dubs didn't translate into an increase in playing numbers at juvenile level.

He reality is there are, for example, 9 GAA clubs in the whole county of Dun Laoighre Rathdown (population 240k) and one of  them is a dominant superclub and about half are wobbling.

But unlike other areas of the county there are clubs. It is virtually impossible to start a club with Dublin land prices so we are then forced to funnel kids through the soulless and soul destroying superclub machine.

I have a friend in Rathfarham whose choice is Ballyboden or one of the various soccer clubs. His kid is in a friendly, community based club where he gets fame time based on merit. And that isn't in the local GAA.

The big expansion success was taking on the goys in Dalkey. Cuala worked, but play out of a soccer club. The traditional working class clubs have been thrown to the wolves as a result. They lost to soccer, so why bother?
2 or 4 Dublin county boards won't change any of this. And they certainly won't get better access to schools or parks.
Dublin has always been a city with a traditional alignment to Britain.
That's not going to change any time soon.

So how come soccer is the most played sport in Kerry? Or rugby strong in Limerick?

Is it 1950 again and people who prefer different sports are less Irish?

shantygael

Quote from: Fogarty on February 04, 2026, 08:09:51 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 04, 2026, 09:10:26 AMA convenient argument.

When Dublin were winning, split them to dilute the talent.

Now they are shite, split them to consolidate the talent.

The weight of numbers argument fails. More clubs in Cork etc.

But substantitvely you are right. Gaelic games in Dublin is, and has always been far behind soccer. The success of the Dubs didn't translate into an increase in playing numbers at juvenile level.

He reality is there are, for example, 9 GAA clubs in the whole county of Dun Laoighre Rathdown (population 240k) and one of  them is a dominant superclub and about half are wobbling.

But unlike other areas of the county there are clubs. It is virtually impossible to start a club with Dublin land prices so we are then forced to funnel kids through the soulless and soul destroying superclub machine.

I have a friend in Rathfarham whose choice is Ballyboden or one of the various soccer clubs. His kid is in a friendly, community based club where he gets fame time based on merit. And that isn't in the local GAA.
Quote from: Fogarty on February 04, 2026, 08:09:51 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 04, 2026, 09:10:26 AMA convenient argument.

When Dublin were winning, split them to dilute the talent.

Now they are shite, split them to consolidate the talent.

The weight of numbers argument fails. More clubs in Cork etc.

But substantitvely you are right. Gaelic games in Dublin is, and has always been far behind soccer. The success of the Dubs didn't translate into an increase in playing numbers at juvenile level.

He reality is there are, for example, 9 GAA clubs in the whole county of Dun Laoighre Rathdown (population 240k) and one of  them is a dominant superclub and about half are wobbling.

But unlike other areas of the county there are clubs. It is virtually impossible to start a club with Dublin land prices so we are then forced to funnel kids through the soulless and soul destroying superclub machine.

I have a friend in Rathfarham whose choice is Ballyboden or one of the various soccer clubs. His kid is in a friendly, community based club where he gets fame time based on merit. And that isn't in the local GAA.

The big expansion success was taking on the goys in Dalkey. Cuala worked, but play out of a soccer club. The traditional working class clubs have been thrown to the wolves as a result. They lost to soccer, so why bother?
2 or 4 Dublin county boards won't change any of this. And they certainly won't get better access to schools or parks.
Dublin has always been a city with a traditional alignment to Britain.
That's not going to change any time soon.

Quote from: Fogarty on February 04, 2026, 08:09:51 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 04, 2026, 09:10:26 AMA convenient argument.

When Dublin were winning, split them to dilute the talent.

Now they are shite, split them to consolidate the talent.

The weight of numbers argument fails. More clubs in Cork etc.

But substantitvely you are right. Gaelic games in Dublin is, and has always been far behind soccer. The success of the Dubs didn't translate into an increase in playing numbers at juvenile level.

He reality is there are, for example, 9 GAA clubs in the whole county of Dun Laoighre Rathdown (population 240k) and one of  them is a dominant superclub and about half are wobbling.

But unlike other areas of the county there are clubs. It is virtually impossible to start a club with Dublin land prices so we are then forced to funnel kids through the soulless and soul destroying superclub machine.

I have a friend in Rathfarham whose choice is Ballyboden or one of the various soccer clubs. His kid is in a friendly, community based club where he gets fame time based on merit. And that isn't in the local GAA.

The big expansion success was taking on the goys in Dalkey. Cuala worked, but play out of a soccer club. The traditional working class clubs have been thrown to the wolves as a result. They lost to soccer, so why bother?
2 or 4 Dublin county boards won't change any of this. And they certainly won't get better access to schools or parks.
Dublin has always been a city with a traditional alignment to Britain.
That's not going to change any time soon.


The big expansion success was taking on the goys in Dalkey. Cuala worked, but play out of a soccer club. The traditional working class clubs have been thrown to the wolves as a result. They lost to soccer, so why bother?
2 or 4 Dublin county boards won't change any of this. And they certainly won't get better access to schools or parks.
Dublin has always been a city with a traditional alignment to Britain.
That's not going to change any time soon.

are you forgetting 1916  and 1919/20/21
you've only had enough to drink when you cant hold onto the ground

Brendan

Quote from: shantygael on February 05, 2026, 07:20:24 PM
Quote from: Fogarty on February 04, 2026, 08:09:51 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 04, 2026, 09:10:26 AMA convenient argument.

When Dublin were winning, split them to dilute the talent.

Now they are shite, split them to consolidate the talent.

The weight of numbers argument fails. More clubs in Cork etc.

But substantitvely you are right. Gaelic games in Dublin is, and has always been far behind soccer. The success of the Dubs didn't translate into an increase in playing numbers at juvenile level.

He reality is there are, for example, 9 GAA clubs in the whole county of Dun Laoighre Rathdown (population 240k) and one of  them is a dominant superclub and about half are wobbling.

But unlike other areas of the county there are clubs. It is virtually impossible to start a club with Dublin land prices so we are then forced to funnel kids through the soulless and soul destroying superclub machine.

I have a friend in Rathfarham whose choice is Ballyboden or one of the various soccer clubs. His kid is in a friendly, community based club where he gets fame time based on merit. And that isn't in the local GAA.
Quote from: Fogarty on February 04, 2026, 08:09:51 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 04, 2026, 09:10:26 AMA convenient argument.

When Dublin were winning, split them to dilute the talent.

Now they are shite, split them to consolidate the talent.

The weight of numbers argument fails. More clubs in Cork etc.

But substantitvely you are right. Gaelic games in Dublin is, and has always been far behind soccer. The success of the Dubs didn't translate into an increase in playing numbers at juvenile level.

He reality is there are, for example, 9 GAA clubs in the whole county of Dun Laoighre Rathdown (population 240k) and one of  them is a dominant superclub and about half are wobbling.

But unlike other areas of the county there are clubs. It is virtually impossible to start a club with Dublin land prices so we are then forced to funnel kids through the soulless and soul destroying superclub machine.

I have a friend in Rathfarham whose choice is Ballyboden or one of the various soccer clubs. His kid is in a friendly, community based club where he gets fame time based on merit. And that isn't in the local GAA.

The big expansion success was taking on the goys in Dalkey. Cuala worked, but play out of a soccer club. The traditional working class clubs have been thrown to the wolves as a result. They lost to soccer, so why bother?
2 or 4 Dublin county boards won't change any of this. And they certainly won't get better access to schools or parks.
Dublin has always been a city with a traditional alignment to Britain.
That's not going to change any time soon.

Quote from: Fogarty on February 04, 2026, 08:09:51 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 04, 2026, 09:10:26 AMA convenient argument.

When Dublin were winning, split them to dilute the talent.

Now they are shite, split them to consolidate the talent.

The weight of numbers argument fails. More clubs in Cork etc.

But substantitvely you are right. Gaelic games in Dublin is, and has always been far behind soccer. The success of the Dubs didn't translate into an increase in playing numbers at juvenile level.

He reality is there are, for example, 9 GAA clubs in the whole county of Dun Laoighre Rathdown (population 240k) and one of  them is a dominant superclub and about half are wobbling.

But unlike other areas of the county there are clubs. It is virtually impossible to start a club with Dublin land prices so we are then forced to funnel kids through the soulless and soul destroying superclub machine.

I have a friend in Rathfarham whose choice is Ballyboden or one of the various soccer clubs. His kid is in a friendly, community based club where he gets fame time based on merit. And that isn't in the local GAA.

The big expansion success was taking on the goys in Dalkey. Cuala worked, but play out of a soccer club. The traditional working class clubs have been thrown to the wolves as a result. They lost to soccer, so why bother?
2 or 4 Dublin county boards won't change any of this. And they certainly won't get better access to schools or parks.
Dublin has always been a city with a traditional alignment to Britain.
That's not going to change any time soon.


The big expansion success was taking on the goys in Dalkey. Cuala worked, but play out of a soccer club. The traditional working class clubs have been thrown to the wolves as a result. They lost to soccer, so why bother?
2 or 4 Dublin county boards won't change any of this. And they certainly won't get better access to schools or parks.
Dublin has always been a city with a traditional alignment to Britain.
That's not going to change any time soon.

are you forgetting 1916  and 1919/20/21

When the lads from around the country came to the capital and took on the Brits?

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Brendan on February 05, 2026, 08:43:53 PM.

are you forgetting 1916  and 1919/20/21
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When the lads from around the country came to the capital and took on the Brits?
[/quote] That's an interesting interpretation.

Another one is while Dublin took on an empire in 1916 our country cousins stayed in bed.

Rossfan

Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Milltown Row2

But then decided to carve up the country for the craic..
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Rossfan

Brits did that, Government of Ireland Act 1920.
The Treaty turned "Southern Ireland" into the Irish Free State.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Rossfan on February 06, 2026, 08:50:31 AMBrits did that, Government of Ireland Act 1920.
The Treaty turned "Southern Ireland" into the Irish Free State.

Whatever dude, keep telling yourself that story, it was accepted and then closed the door behind yas ;)
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

JollyGreenGiant

The scary part is that Dublin could actually get worse. The extent to which a few of the "old guard" is carrying the team was laid out for all to see today. Yes, there are a few injuries, but Dublin Senior Football looked as flatlined today as it ever has.

An extreme (but maybe not inaccurate reading of today was the squad is the poorest it ever has been, the psychological issues of the noughties are alive and well (in the number of wides, and poor decisions), the gameplan was transparent and limited,and the leadership on the pitch was non existent. And worst of all, there aren't even the bums on the seats to share in the collective misery. The fans who once packed out Croker at Leinster Quarter Final stage are now watching the LOI or Leinster in the Rugby, or have just drifted back to the Premier League. And today has done nothing to disabuse them of the notion that they have made the right decisions.

Brendan