Cork v Clare All Ireland SHC Final Sunday 8th September 3.30pm

[orangeman]

Davy was the hero back in September 2013 and it seems to be going a bit sour now. All not well apparently. Clare need a few decent results soon.

[seafoid]

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/hurling/2015/0312/686673-league-weekend-all-the-hurling-action-previewed/

You have to go back to 30 March 2014 for Clare's last competitive win in senior hurling. That was against Laois in the Division 1 quarter-final. The Banner have played seven matches since and have yet to emerge victorious.

[Kidder81]

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/clare-hurler-humiliated-by-double-standard-treatment-1.2139431

All not well indeed

[gallsman]

Always a cert with Davy for things like this to happen. The LIT days and the way he sent Waterford out for the '08 final laid out what type of manager he was going to be.

Big decisions to be made in Clare. With such success at underage over the last few years, it'd be a travesty if they pissed it all away.

[seafoid]

Always a cert with Davy for things like this to happen. The LIT days and the way he sent Waterford out for the '08 final laid out what type of manager he was going to be.

Big decisions to be made in Clare. With such success at underage over the last few years, it'd be a travesty if they pissed it all away.

Daly could take over. Sounds like DF brings the wrong energy.

[Premier Emperor]

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/clare-hurler-humiliated-by-double-standard-treatment-1.2139431

All not well indeed

Davy is a certifiable loon. One lucky All Ireland doesn't change that!

[johnneycool]

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/clare-hurler-humiliated-by-double-standard-treatment-1.2139431

All not well indeed

Davy is a certifiable loon. One lucky All Ireland doesn't change that!

Correct, just ask Babs Keating albeit he rode his luck and the rule book to two AI's..

With Davy's da being the full time secretary it'll take a monumental shift to move Davy out of that position..

[macdanger2]

Heard Parkinson on newstalk saying the GPA are investigating this thing in Clare - if these guys are no longer on the county panel, surely the GPA no longer represents them??

[seafoid]

This story is really sickening. It is very , very hard for anyone in a county to pursue such an issue without damaging the county team and Fitz is using this. Young players are being punished unreasonably and nobody can say anything.  It really sucks.
Clare hurling does not need this. 

It is a complete contrast to the Shefflin story - glory and unique talent versus something very dark

[muppet]

Heard Parkinson on newstalk saying the GPA are investigating this thing in Clare - if these guys are no longer on the county panel, surely the GPA no longer represents them??

So if you are fired your union can no longer represent you?

E.G by comparison, say you are a train driver in the train drivers' union?

[macdanger2]

Heard Parkinson on newstalk saying the GPA are investigating this thing in Clare - if these guys are no longer on the county panel, surely the GPA no longer represents them??

So if you are fired your union can no longer represent you?

E.G by comparison, say you are a train driver in the train drivers' union?

Completely different situation considering you pay into a union. Not to mention that employees have the legal right of redress, players do not.

Was just wondering where is the line between players who are and are not represented by the GPA lies? If you're dropped off a panel because the manager doesn't think you're good enough, are you still a GPA member? If you're in for the January tournaments / league and out for the league / championship, are you still a GPA member??

[muppet]

Heard Parkinson on newstalk saying the GPA are investigating this thing in Clare - if these guys are no longer on the county panel, surely the GPA no longer represents them??

So if you are fired your union can no longer represent you?

E.G by comparison, say you are a train driver in the train drivers' union?

Completely different situation considering you pay into a union. Not to mention that employees have the legal right of redress, players do not.

Was just wondering where is the line between players who are and are not represented by the GPA lies? If you're dropped off a panel because the manager doesn't think you're good enough, are you still a GPA member? If you're in for the January tournaments / league and out for the league / championship, are you still a GPA member??

You have already made an assumption on this based on your original statement: "if these guys are no longer on the county panel, surely the GPA no longer represents them??"

If your representative body didn't represent you in a row, following a disciplinary process which you dispute, it wouldn't be worth spitting on. If the players want the GPA involved to represent them in a dispute, then it has to get involved. Otherwise it should disband.

[AZOffaly]

You are eligible to join the GPA when you become an inter county player. Your membership is not revoked when you stop playing, or are dropped. Otherwise Donal Óg, Dessie and the others wouldn't be members any more.

[macdanger2]

You are eligible to join the GPA when you become an inter county player. Your membership is not revoked when you stop playing, or are dropped. Otherwise Donal Óg, Dessie and the others wouldn't be members any more.

That's what I was wondering - so once you're a member you remain a member

[AZOffaly]

I think you have to pay €50 subs every year to be in it, so I suppose if you weren't getting the benefits of membership because you're no longer playing, you might question the value for €50. I presume these lads have their subs paid for 2015 at least.