Peter Robinson steps down as First Minister!

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glens abu

Quote from: HiMucker on May 30, 2014, 08:58:06 AM
I think Sinn Fein party members take the average industrial wage, not the minimum wage.  Still very commendable and something they don't hype on about enough.  I stand to be corrected though  :-\

You are 100% correct they don't take their full salaries and the rest goes towards the wages of others who work for the party in delivering for their constituents.Think people are entitled to a fair wage for the work they do but it is about getting the balance right.Would be interesting to see if Eirigi ever got anyone elected what they would do but if it was anything thing like the scramble other super Republicans did to get paid to tell lies to the Boston college I wouldn't be holding my breath. :-[ :-[

Keyser soze

I see Peter has made an apology to the Muslim community.

I don't though recollect his apology for the racist comments he made about some of the republic's football players a few years ago.

Rossfan

Quote from: glens abu on May 30, 2014, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on May 30, 2014, 08:58:06 AM
I think Sinn Fein party members take the average industrial wage, not the minimum wage.  Still very commendable and something they don't hype on about enough.  I stand to be corrected though  :-\

You are 100% correct they don't take their full salaries and the rest goes towards the wages of others who work for the party in delivering for their constituents.

Surely  they take their full salaries less Tax etc and then donate some of that to the Party. Otherwise how would the party get the extra? ;)
The way ye tell it you'd think they only take the average industrial wage from the taxpayers.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

give her dixie

Quote from: Rossfan on May 30, 2014, 10:46:26 AM
Quote from: glens abu on May 30, 2014, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on May 30, 2014, 08:58:06 AM
I think Sinn Fein party members take the average industrial wage, not the minimum wage.  Still very commendable and something they don't hype on about enough.  I stand to be corrected though  :-\

You are 100% correct they don't take their full salaries and the rest goes towards the wages of others who work for the party in delivering for their constituents.

Surely  they take their full salaries less Tax etc and then donate some of that to the Party. Otherwise how would the party get the extra? ;)
The way ye tell it you'd think they only take the average industrial wage from the taxpayers.

I wouldnt mind earning an average industrial wage and then I might be able to afford a holiday home in the sun
next stop, September 10, for number 4......

HiMucker

Quote from: give her dixie on May 30, 2014, 10:57:17 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 30, 2014, 10:46:26 AM
Quote from: glens abu on May 30, 2014, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on May 30, 2014, 08:58:06 AM
I think Sinn Fein party members take the average industrial wage, not the minimum wage.  Still very commendable and something they don't hype on about enough.  I stand to be corrected though  :-\

You are 100% correct they don't take their full salaries and the rest goes towards the wages of others who work for the party in delivering for their constituents.

Surely  they take their full salaries less Tax etc and then donate some of that to the Party. Otherwise how would the party get the extra? ;)
The way ye tell it you'd think they only take the average industrial wage from the taxpayers.

I wouldnt mind earning an average industrial wage and then I might be able to afford a holiday home in the sun
FFS lad, should they all be suffering along earning a few bob??  How many have holiday homes??  And does owning a holiday home mean your loaded? 

gallsman

Quote from: HiMucker on May 30, 2014, 11:03:19 AM
Quote from: give her dixie on May 30, 2014, 10:57:17 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 30, 2014, 10:46:26 AM
Quote from: glens abu on May 30, 2014, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on May 30, 2014, 08:58:06 AM
I think Sinn Fein party members take the average industrial wage, not the minimum wage.  Still very commendable and something they don't hype on about enough.  I stand to be corrected though  :-\

You are 100% correct they don't take their full salaries and the rest goes towards the wages of others who work for the party in delivering for their constituents.

Surely  they take their full salaries less Tax etc and then donate some of that to the Party. Otherwise how would the party get the extra? ;)
The way ye tell it you'd think they only take the average industrial wage from the taxpayers.

I wouldnt mind earning an average industrial wage and then I might be able to afford a holiday home in the sun
FFS lad, should they all be suffering along earning a few bob??  How many have holiday homes??  And does owning a holiday home mean your loaded?

Quote from: HiMucker on May 30, 2014, 08:58:06 AM
I think Sinn Fein party members take the average industrial wage, not the minimum wage.  Still very commendable and something they don't hype on about enough.  I stand to be corrected though  :-\

The point is they do harp on about it enough, as do some of their supporters on here. It's portrayed as a lofty socialist ideal, when in reality as a party they draw the exact same amount from the taxpayer (have they stopped claiming Westminster expenses yet?), regardless of what any one individual takes home.

CiKe

#126
Just watched those clips and read that fella's statement. Car crash stuff and thoroughly depressing stuff altogether. The bigot from the show (not the pastor, the other one...) hasn't the intelligence to see that his views are the ones that have been manipulated over the years by the likes of the very pastor he is defending. Downright scary that he was actually applauded. Someone said that the audience is not representative of the NI population. I hope they were right but am afraid they are wrong. Does anyone know what way audience selection is done?

When I see this sh*t I am eternally grateful I am a long time out of the north. Beneath a very thin veneer of respectability it is still a shithole festering in resentment and sectarian hatred. Now I have been curious about this for some time and although I have my suspicions I don't have an informed view so would like to hear opinions. Is the protestant youth of today more intolerant and sectarian than the catholic youth?  In some ways am loathe to use those two labels as doubt there is much religion on either side but anyways...

angermanagement

Anyone can get tickets for the Nolan show its just a case of ringing up and getting them, with all the talk of the pastor the week before, the crowd was going to be full of the Pastors flock hence the applause.


EC Unique

Quote from: CiKe on May 30, 2014, 11:17:09 AM
Someone said that the audience is not representative of the NI population. I hope they were right but am afraid they are wrong. Does anyone know what way audience selection is done?



I would say that 99% of the population would not bother their arse driving to Belfast to sit in the BBC studio on a Wednesday night to watch the Nolan show live. The audience would mostly be made up of supporters of the guests and hardcore opposition. Definitely not representative of the views of most. Most sane people are sitting in their living rooms watching it having a laugh at the clowns on show.

CiKe

Quote from: EC Unique on May 30, 2014, 11:27:06 AM
Quote from: CiKe on May 30, 2014, 11:17:09 AM
Someone said that the audience is not representative of the NI population. I hope they were right but am afraid they are wrong. Does anyone know what way audience selection is done?



I would say that 99% of the population would not bother their arse driving to Belfast to sit in the BBC studio on a Wednesday night to watch the Nolan show live. The audience would mostly be made up of supporters of the guests and hardcore opposition. Definitely not representative of the views of most. Most sane people are sitting in their living rooms watching it having a laugh at the clowns on show.

That's fair enough, I was probably assuming Belfast and surrounding area as representative of the wider NI population but I guess your point still stands - crowd was always like to attract the hardcore element out in support and the more politically active with an opposing viewpoint. With regards to my question above would be really curious to see the results of a poll in relation to his views but even then would prob be biased by the fact that is a known Protestant pastor - would be more interesting if was just a blind test of agreeing with the views of an unidentified "man of god".

imtommygunn

Quote from: CiKe on May 30, 2014, 11:42:30 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 30, 2014, 11:27:06 AM
Quote from: CiKe on May 30, 2014, 11:17:09 AM
Someone said that the audience is not representative of the NI population. I hope they were right but am afraid they are wrong. Does anyone know what way audience selection is done?



I would say that 99% of the population would not bother their arse driving to Belfast to sit in the BBC studio on a Wednesday night to watch the Nolan show live. The audience would mostly be made up of supporters of the guests and hardcore opposition. Definitely not representative of the views of most. Most sane people are sitting in their living rooms watching it having a laugh at the clowns on show.

That's fair enough, I was probably assuming Belfast and surrounding area as representative of the wider NI population but I guess your point still stands - crowd was always like to attract the hardcore element out in support and the more politically active with an opposing viewpoint. With regards to my question above would be really curious to see the results of a poll in relation to his views but even then would prob be biased by the fact that is a known Protestant pastor - would be more interesting if was just a blind test of agreeing with the views of an unidentified "man of god".

It's not reflective of Belfast and surrounding area though - it's reflective of the type of people that want to go on the Nolan show and that is really all it is reflective of.

CiKe

Quote from: imtommygunn on May 30, 2014, 11:45:18 AM
Quote from: CiKe on May 30, 2014, 11:42:30 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 30, 2014, 11:27:06 AM
Quote from: CiKe on May 30, 2014, 11:17:09 AM
Someone said that the audience is not representative of the NI population. I hope they were right but am afraid they are wrong. Does anyone know what way audience selection is done?



I would say that 99% of the population would not bother their arse driving to Belfast to sit in the BBC studio on a Wednesday night to watch the Nolan show live. The audience would mostly be made up of supporters of the guests and hardcore opposition. Definitely not representative of the views of most. Most sane people are sitting in their living rooms watching it having a laugh at the clowns on show.

That's fair enough, I was probably assuming Belfast and surrounding area as representative of the wider NI population but I guess your point still stands - crowd was always like to attract the hardcore element out in support and the more politically active with an opposing viewpoint. With regards to my question above would be really curious to see the results of a poll in relation to his views but even then would prob be biased by the fact that is a known Protestant pastor - would be more interesting if was just a blind test of agreeing with the views of an unidentified "man of god".

It's not reflective of Belfast and surrounding area though - it's reflective of the type of people that want to go on the Nolan show and that is really all it is reflective of.

Yes. Perhaps not expressed brilliantly but that's pretty much what I said second time around. In summary you probably could extrapolate views of Belfast to NI but not those of Nolan show audience to either Belfast or NI

imtommygunn

I would say that sounds about right.

The concern would be that people from other countries look at this show and think it is reflective of the lot of us.

I don't think Galloway was expecting what he got at all based on twitter comments etc - he was pretty much hijacked.


gallsman

Quote from: imtommygunn on May 30, 2014, 12:00:17 PM
I would say that sounds about right.

The concern would be that people from other countries look at this show and think it is reflective of the lot of us.

I don't think Galloway was expecting what he got at all based on twitter comments etc - he was pretty much hijacked.

The expressions of disbelief and complete bewilderment on the faces of Khalid Anis and Galloway said all that needed to be said about the views expressed, at least as far as any (what I would label) right minded people are concerned.

WT4E

Any word about the DUP woman who called Ana Lo a racist???