Can you help provide data?

[Mrs mills]

Good morning all:
I am currently working on a project about scoring percentages and how they may be improved. There are many different ways to classify attacks and opportunities to score. I have based my data on clean possession in the opposition half of the pitch and the what happens thereafter. Most teams, other than those that are completely swamped throughout a game, will have clean possession in the opposing half between 40 and 50 times in a game and the % of these which are turned into scores is my focus.
Based on data from some 120 games over the past three years (male club and county, minor and senior) I have found that winning teams generally convert 28-45% of these into points, with 33% being the norm - and I count a goal as 3 scores / points.
To illustrate the balance of attacks and imbalance of scores, may I use the data from a recent club senior game.

Team A          46 attacks / 6 points / 7 shots (4 wide and 3 dropped short) / 33 turnovers = 13% score return
Team B          49 attacks / 17 points (3-8) / 11 shots ( 9 wide and 2 dropped short ) / 21 turnovers = 35% score return

I'm also looking at the % of unsuccessful attacks which finished with a shot that went wide or dropped short and at those attacks which were thwarted and the ball turned over before a shot was taken.

So, what am I asking? I would be very grateful if you could tag (record the same stats) for one game that you attend before the end of the season. You may have to become a loner for the duration of the game, standing in isolation and appearing to be a journalist, losing friends as a result. If you manage to get the figures please post them on this thread, complete with names of teams involved and playing level.

I usually tag the game in real time and collate them at the end of the game. Below is an example of how I began to tag a game between team R and team L.


R / T
R / W
L /PT
R/PT
L/S
L/W
R/GL
L/T
R/W
R/T
R/T

T for turnover, S for shot dropped short, W for wide, PT for point, GL for goal.

Thanks in anticipation of any help you can give.

[Croí na hÉireann]

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[Mrs mills]

Many thanks. I wasn't aware of it.

[Eamonnca1]

Seems like a bit of a laborious system you have there.  When I did match reports I'd draw up a simple table for recording stats.  Two columns, one for each team, and a load of rows for the following:

Goals
Points
Wides
Frees won
Penalties awarded
Yellow cards
Red cards

I'd use "five bar gate" tally marks in each cell to count up.  Didn't take that much concentration, could do it while chatting to people.

You could use the same system, just add additional rows for turnovers and dropped short.  How do you define a turnover? 

[Mrs mills]

I'm not simply recording match stats for reports. I'm working on what specifically happens inside an opposition half and how success or failure might be related to different levels of forward movement and teamplay. The quest is to find out if the freer scoring teams tend to be those that have worked on the details of attack running or if they are blessed with players who just know when and where to run, regardless of instruction. This is the first part of a lengthy study, I hope.
A turnover is simply when the ball is lost to the opposition during play.

[Eamonnca1]

Sounds like a job for software rather than pen and paper then. There was an iPhone app for recording GAA stats during a game, I remember downloading it years ago but never used it.

[NaomhBridAbú]

dartfish, no?

[Syferus]

Sounds like a job for software rather than pen and paper then. There was an iPhone app for recording GAA stats during a game, I remember downloading it years ago but never used it.

Most of the team statisticians I've seen lately have had their tablets out and letting it do the horsework.

[AZOffaly]

Yeah, tablets are ideal for this. Bigger than iPhones, but more 'refill pad' like than an laptop...

[johnny cash]

Hows the survey going?

[johnny cash]

hows the project going?

Good morning all:
I am currently working on a project about scoring percentages and how they may be improved. There are many different ways to classify attacks and opportunities to score. I have based my data on clean possession in the opposition half of the pitch and the what happens thereafter. Most teams, other than those that are completely swamped throughout a game, will have clean possession in the opposing half between 40 and 50 times in a game and the % of these which are turned into scores is my focus.
Based on data from some 120 games over the past three years (male club and county, minor and senior) I have found that winning teams generally convert 28-45% of these into points, with 33% being the norm - and I count a goal as 3 scores / points.
To illustrate the balance of attacks and imbalance of scores, may I use the data from a recent club senior game.

Team A          46 attacks / 6 points / 7 shots (4 wide and 3 dropped short) / 33 turnovers = 13% score return
Team B          49 attacks / 17 points (3-8) / 11 shots ( 9 wide and 2 dropped short ) / 21 turnovers = 35% score return

I'm also looking at the % of unsuccessful attacks which finished with a shot that went wide or dropped short and at those attacks which were thwarted and the ball turned over before a shot was taken.

So, what am I asking? I would be very grateful if you could tag (record the same stats) for one game that you attend before the end of the season. You may have to become a loner for the duration of the game, standing in isolation and appearing to be a journalist, losing friends as a result. If you manage to get the figures please post them on this thread, complete with names of teams involved and playing level.

I usually tag the game in real time and collate them at the end of the game. Below is an example of how I began to tag a game between team R and team L.


R / T
R / W
L /PT
R/PT
L/S
L/W
R/GL
L/T
R/W
R/T
R/T

T for turnover, S for shot dropped short, W for wide, PT for point, GL for goal.

Thanks in anticipation of any help you can give.

[Harold Disgracey]

The iPad app from http://performasports.com designed by one of our players seems to be quite popular and is used by a number of clubs/counties.

[IolarCoisCuain]

The Dublin statto, Ray Boyne, posted this on Twitter during the week if it's any use to anyone: https://twitter.com/AnalysisGAA/status/382753318356795392

[padraigg]

Hi, this app might do what you need https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gaelic.manager_free&hl=en