Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[Jerome]

I have already said it in this thread but regardless of who the management team is they all must be 100% committed to Tyrone cause and if coaches aren't willing to give up club commitments during county season then find suitable candidates that will.

[Lamh Dhearg Alba]

I think 1 AI in three years and remaining in Div 1 throughout that time  - gives enough credit in bank.
It will be a bit of a rebuild job regardless of who is in the hot seat.

On the surface that looks very good and well worth another term. In reality after year one - and winning that AI was a magnificent effort - Tyrone have been a mess and regressed massively. I could accept a couple of mediocre seasons in other circumstances but there has been no sign of any cohesive plan unfortunately and the team has under performed hugely given the quality of player available. Sorry to say it but I don't see any evidence at all to suggest the current management team deserve more time.

[Jim Bob]

I think 1 AI in three years and remaining in Div 1 throughout that time  - gives enough credit in bank.
It will be a bit of a rebuild job regardless of who is in the hot seat.

On the surface that looks very good and well worth another term. In reality after year one - and winning that AI was a magnificent effort - Tyrone have been a mess and regressed massively. I could accept a couple of mediocre seasons in other circumstances but there has been no sign of any cohesive plan unfortunately and the team has under performed hugely given the quality of player available. Sorry to say it but I don't see any evidence at all to suggest the current management team deserve more time.

Blasé BS. Why don't you get down to the soecific of why the management are to blame and not the players.
You talk about quality of players.
Should  they have won an All Ireland this year  under different management ?
Should players have been played in different positions}
Should other players have been played iand where? 
Tell us why we didn't win the All Ireland this year

[trueblue1234]

I think 1 AI in three years and remaining in Div 1 throughout that time  - gives enough credit in bank.
It will be a bit of a rebuild job regardless of who is in the hot seat.

On the surface that looks very good and well worth another term. In reality after year one - and winning that AI was a magnificent effort - Tyrone have been a mess and regressed massively. I could accept a couple of mediocre seasons in other circumstances but there has been no sign of any cohesive plan unfortunately and the team has under performed hugely given the quality of player available. Sorry to say it but I don't see any evidence at all to suggest the current management team deserve more time.

Blasé BS. Why don't you get down to the soecific of why the management are to blame and not the players.
You talk about quality of players.
Should  they have won an All Ireland this year  under different management ?
Should players have been played in different positions}
Should other players have been played iand where? 
Tell us why we didn't win the All Ireland this year

It's been two bad years. We're not just taking about not winning an AI in the last two years. We haven't been competitive at all. The players will shoulder some blame but so do the management. The number of players leaving the panel, the lack of confidence that good established players have shown, Our slowness at breaking with the ball, are all aspects I would say can be pointed at the management.
I think it's time for a change.

[Jim Bob]

And why what you stated above is the management s fault ? Be specific

Darragh Canavan is happy for them to stay on and he'd know a lot more about the state of things than you

[LeoMc]

And why what you stated above is the management s fault ? Be specific

Darragh Canavan is happy for them to stay on and he'd know a lot more about the state of things than you

Daragh was asked a direct question. He could hardly have said anything else.
You appear to be trying to absolve management of all blame.
I am not party to the day to day going on's in Garvaghey but the number of players walking away over the past 2 years does not indicate a happy camp. Players need to believe in what they are doing to invest the time and it would appear not enough players are being convinced.

[Redhand Santa]

You couldn't say a bad word about Dooher and Logan in terms of what they've done for Tyrone football. They've done a lot for football in the county and no one can take away from what they've achieved.

Do I think they should stay on? No, definitely not. The last two years have been mediocre and they had two bad years with the u21s outside the All Ireland win as well. I just can't see them turning it round from here with so many players already making themselves unavailable and all momentum seems to be lost. Tyrone looked far off it in terms of conditioning as well the last two years which is another area needs looked at.

The biggest problem would be who to replace them. There isn't many obvious candidates in the county and it's hard to imagine Malachy O'Rourke taking it.

[Jerome]

Certainly seems to be a big step down in terms of physical ability since Peter Donnelly was replaced by McElhome.

[square_ball]

Ciaran Meenagh anyone? The way Derry set up and played against Kerry was light years ahead of what we attempted 2 weeks previously. He does seem to have a big allegiance to Derry though so again probably unlikely.

[Jim Bob]

And why what you stated above is the management s fault ? Be specific

Darragh Canavan is happy for them to stay on and he'd know a lot more about the state of things than you

Daragh was asked a direct question. He could hardly have said anything else.
You appear to be trying to absolve management of all blame.
I am not party to the day to day going on's in Garvaghey but the number of players walking away over the past 2 years does not indicate a happy camp. Players need to believe in what they are doing to invest the time and it would appear not enough players are being convinced.

Are you suggesting that Daragh wasn't being honest ?

[03,05,08]

And why what you stated above is the management s fault ? Be specific

Darragh Canavan is happy for them to stay on and he'd know a lot more about the state of things than you

Daragh was asked a direct question. He could hardly have said anything else.
You appear to be trying to absolve management of all blame.
I am not party to the day to day going on's in Garvaghey but the number of players walking away over the past 2 years does not indicate a happy camp. Players need to believe in what they are doing to invest the time and it would appear not enough players are being convinced.

Are you suggesting that Daragh wasn't being honest ?

He's not actually the son of god you know??

[God14]

You couldn't say a bad word about Dooher and Logan in terms of what they've done for Tyrone football. They've done a lot for football in the county and no one can take away from what they've achieved.

Do I think they should stay on? No, definitely not. The last two years have been mediocre and they had two bad years with the u21s outside the All Ireland win as well. I just can't see them turning it round from here with so many players already making themselves unavailable and all momentum seems to be lost. Tyrone looked far off it in terms of conditioning as well the last two years which is another area needs looked at.

The biggest problem would be who to replace them. There isn't many obvious candidates in the county and it's hard to imagine Malachy O'Rourke taking it.

Agree 100%

[LeoMc]

And why what you stated above is the management s fault ? Be specific

Darragh Canavan is happy for them to stay on and he'd know a lot more about the state of things than you

Daragh was asked a direct question. He could hardly have said anything else.
You appear to be trying to absolve management of all blame.
I am not party to the day to day going on's in Garvaghey but the number of players walking away over the past 2 years does not indicate a happy camp. Players need to believe in what they are doing to invest the time and it would appear not enough players are being convinced.

Are you suggesting that Daragh wasn't being honest ?

I don't know if he is happy or not. Whilst he is part of the panel and they are the Management he could say nothing else without scuppering his future chances.

[Keyboard Warrior]

Certainly seems to be a big step down in terms of physical ability since Peter Donnelly was replaced by McElhome.

I'd suggest this is a major factor in Tyrone being bossed in the athletic stakes towards the business end of the year.

[Snapchap]

And why what you stated above is the management s fault ? Be specific

Darragh Canavan is happy for them to stay on and he'd know a lot more about the state of things than you

Daragh was asked a direct question. He could hardly have said anything else.
You appear to be trying to absolve management of all blame.
I am not party to the day to day going on's in Garvaghey but the number of players walking away over the past 2 years does not indicate a happy camp. Players need to believe in what they are doing to invest the time and it would appear not enough players are being convinced.

Are you suggesting that Daragh wasn't being honest ?

Jimbob, have a bit of sense lol. Maybe he does genuinely want them to stay on, maybe he doesn't. The point is: WTF do you expect him (or any serving player) to say in an interview when asked if they want their current manager to remain in position other than yes ffs!!