Tyrone County Football and Hurling

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Keyboard Warrior

Quote from: clarshack on July 16, 2023, 06:27:37 PM
Quote from: Stan on July 16, 2023, 06:12:51 PM
Two great semi-finals over the weekend. How far behind are we? Two really bad years football for Tyrone...what next?

In terms of footballing ability we aren't that far behind but a massive change in attitude is required.
Another season of going through the motions would be unacceptable and if that means dropping guys from the panel like McGeary, Burns, O'Neill and Sludden who all seem content with 1 All-Ireland then so be it.

As in Michael O'Neill is going through the motions? Not sure what you are watching there. Correct on the other three.

bogball88

Quote from: Keyboard Warrior on July 17, 2023, 08:37:08 AM
Quote from: clarshack on July 16, 2023, 06:27:37 PM
Quote from: Stan on July 16, 2023, 06:12:51 PM
Two great semi-finals over the weekend. How far behind are we? Two really bad years football for Tyrone...what next?

In terms of footballing ability we aren't that far behind but a massive change in attitude is required.
Another season of going through the motions would be unacceptable and if that means dropping guys from the panel like McGeary, Burns, O'Neill and Sludden who all seem content with 1 All-Ireland then so be it.

As in Michael O'Neill is going through the motions? Not sure what you are watching there. Correct on the other three.
Perhaps not going through the motions, but just is not up to the standard required at the top level, which is perhaps is the managements fault for constantly playing him. Not sure what he adds

RedHand88

Quote from: bogball88 on July 17, 2023, 08:58:54 AM
Quote from: Keyboard Warrior on July 17, 2023, 08:37:08 AM
Quote from: clarshack on July 16, 2023, 06:27:37 PM
Quote from: Stan on July 16, 2023, 06:12:51 PM
Two great semi-finals over the weekend. How far behind are we? Two really bad years football for Tyrone...what next?

In terms of footballing ability we aren't that far behind but a massive change in attitude is required.
Another season of going through the motions would be unacceptable and if that means dropping guys from the panel like McGeary, Burns, O'Neill and Sludden who all seem content with 1 All-Ireland then so be it.

As in Michael O'Neill is going through the motions? Not sure what you are watching there. Correct on the other three.
Perhaps not going through the motions, but just is not up to the standard required at the top level, which is perhaps is the managements fault for constantly playing him. Not sure what he adds

He would be involved in those turnovers where Tyrone swarm an attacker and force them to over carry.

Likes a good aul roar in the opponents face too.

rrhf


bogball88

Quote from: RedHand88 on July 17, 2023, 09:00:50 AM
Quote from: bogball88 on July 17, 2023, 08:58:54 AM
Quote from: Keyboard Warrior on July 17, 2023, 08:37:08 AM
Quote from: clarshack on July 16, 2023, 06:27:37 PM
Quote from: Stan on July 16, 2023, 06:12:51 PM
Two great semi-finals over the weekend. How far behind are we? Two really bad years football for Tyrone...what next?

In terms of footballing ability we aren't that far behind but a massive change in attitude is required.
Another season of going through the motions would be unacceptable and if that means dropping guys from the panel like McGeary, Burns, O'Neill and Sludden who all seem content with 1 All-Ireland then so be it.

As in Michael O'Neill is going through the motions? Not sure what you are watching there. Correct on the other three.
Perhaps not going through the motions, but just is not up to the standard required at the top level, which is perhaps is the managements fault for constantly playing him. Not sure what he adds

He would be involved in those turnovers where Tyrone swarm an attacker and force them to over carry.

Likes a good aul roar in the opponents face too.

And therin lies the problem

Keyboard Warrior

Quote from: bogball88 on July 17, 2023, 09:22:23 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 17, 2023, 09:00:50 AM
Quote from: bogball88 on July 17, 2023, 08:58:54 AM
Quote from: Keyboard Warrior on July 17, 2023, 08:37:08 AM
Quote from: clarshack on July 16, 2023, 06:27:37 PM
Quote from: Stan on July 16, 2023, 06:12:51 PM
Two great semi-finals over the weekend. How far behind are we? Two really bad years football for Tyrone...what next?

In terms of footballing ability we aren't that far behind but a massive change in attitude is required.
Another season of going through the motions would be unacceptable and if that means dropping guys from the panel like McGeary, Burns, O'Neill and Sludden who all seem content with 1 All-Ireland then so be it.

As in Michael O'Neill is going through the motions? Not sure what you are watching there. Correct on the other three.
Perhaps not going through the motions, but just is not up to the standard required at the top level, which is perhaps is the managements fault for constantly playing him. Not sure what he adds

He would be involved in those turnovers where Tyrone swarm an attacker and force them to over carry.

Likes a good aul roar in the opponents face too.

And therin lies the problem

Not at the standard? He was 6 all year when Tyrone won the All Ireland. We're from a county that aren't exactly short on good footballers either so it isn't as if he didn't warrant his place there. 

Appreciate he didn't have a good game against Kerry. They seemed to deliberately let him carry possession and he gave it away often. But I'd argue management should have rotated things to get, for example, Matty Donnelly or Petey Harte in to MO'N's role instead when they seen who Kerry were tagging. 

There will be a rush to say "those guys aren't good enough anymore, bring in the U20's" but Tyrone aren't getting back to the top table again by throwing the baby out with the bath water and ditching players like Michael O'Neill.

Stan

Quote from: Keyboard Warrior on July 17, 2023, 10:30:18 AM
Quote from: bogball88 on July 17, 2023, 09:22:23 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 17, 2023, 09:00:50 AM
Quote from: bogball88 on July 17, 2023, 08:58:54 AM
Quote from: Keyboard Warrior on July 17, 2023, 08:37:08 AM
Quote from: clarshack on July 16, 2023, 06:27:37 PM
Quote from: Stan on July 16, 2023, 06:12:51 PM
Two great semi-finals over the weekend. How far behind are we? Two really bad years football for Tyrone...what next?

In terms of footballing ability we aren't that far behind but a massive change in attitude is required.
Another season of going through the motions would be unacceptable and if that means dropping guys from the panel like McGeary, Burns, O'Neill and Sludden who all seem content with 1 All-Ireland then so be it.

As in Michael O'Neill is going through the motions? Not sure what you are watching there. Correct on the other three.
Perhaps not going through the motions, but just is not up to the standard required at the top level, which is perhaps is the managements fault for constantly playing him. Not sure what he adds

He would be involved in those turnovers where Tyrone swarm an attacker and force them to over carry.

Likes a good aul roar in the opponents face too.

And therin lies the problem

Not at the standard? He was 6 all year when Tyrone won the All Ireland. We're from a county that aren't exactly short on good footballers either so it isn't as if he didn't warrant his place there. 

Appreciate he didn't have a good game against Kerry. They seemed to deliberately let him carry possession and he gave it away often. But I'd argue management should have rotated things to get, for example, Matty Donnelly or Petey Harte in to MO'N's role instead when they seen who Kerry were tagging. 

There will be a rush to say "those guys aren't good enough anymore, bring in the U20's" but Tyrone aren't getting back to the top table again by throwing the baby out with the bath water and ditching players like Michael O'Neill.

Tyrone have the players - on the current panel, on the fringes and coming through the ranks - to compete in semi-finals and finals. No way that we would have beaten any of those 4 teams playing at the weekend.

Management team isn't right in my opinion - the last 2 years have yielded the worst performances by far and its hard to see what they are building up to.

Too many good men have left the panel...too many men on the panel under performing...feels like we have been going backwards rater than using our win to move us forward

God14

I'm surprised the management havnt stepped down by now.

sensethetone

Quote from: God14 on July 17, 2023, 11:10:17 AM
I'm surprised the management havnt stepped down by now.

Is their term up this year?

God14

Quote from: sensethetone on July 17, 2023, 11:15:00 AM
Quote from: God14 on July 17, 2023, 11:10:17 AM
I'm surprised the management havnt stepped down by now.

Is their term up this year?

yes, 3 year term complete.

sensethetone

Quote from: God14 on July 17, 2023, 11:25:39 AM
Quote from: sensethetone on July 17, 2023, 11:15:00 AM
Quote from: God14 on July 17, 2023, 11:10:17 AM
I'm surprised the management havnt stepped down by now.

Is their term up this year?

yes, 3 year term complete.

have you heard they left this morning? probably untrue.

God14

Quote from: sensethetone on July 17, 2023, 11:27:30 AM
Quote from: God14 on July 17, 2023, 11:25:39 AM
Quote from: sensethetone on July 17, 2023, 11:15:00 AM
Quote from: God14 on July 17, 2023, 11:10:17 AM
I'm surprised the management havnt stepped down by now.

Is their term up this year?

yes, 3 year term complete.

have you heard they left this morning? probably untrue.

No not heard that

Quarterbackk

Chatter that they want another 2 years.....

An Watcher

Honestly don't think they've done enough to merit that.  Done a great job to win the all ireland but something seriously wrong the way we've been playing

sam03/05

I think 1 AI in three years and remaining in Div 1 throughout that time  - gives enough credit in bank.
It will be a bit of a rebuild job regardless of who is in the hot seat.