Tyrone County Football and Hurling

Started by Fear ón Srath Bán, April 01, 2007, 05:58:31 PM

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LeoMc

Quote from: square_ball on June 19, 2023, 08:18:32 AM
That's not a pull down as per the black card rule. If they want to go down the road of giving a penalty for fouls outside the square then they need to update the rule to allow for fouls like yesterday.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 19, 2023, 08:21:00 AM
That's not a deliberate pull down. It was a high tackle. That's not a black card anywhere else on the field.

The problem is the rule.
The other problem is that the ref appears to be in a tiny minority that actually knows the rule.

Every day is a school day.

tyroneStatto

Quote from: Onthe40 on June 19, 2023, 09:50:24 AM
battle royal now next weekend...

hard to see anything but the campaign coming to an end within the next 2 weeks

Donegal are up and running again and it's hard to see a Tyrone win tbh.

Aaron Boone

Donegal could be the Ulster team to get the furtherest in the Championship.

tyrone08

Think Donegal will hammer tyrone. We have been very poor this last 2 years and something needs to change.

Jerome

Quote from: tyrone08 on June 19, 2023, 10:19:31 AM
Think Donegal will hammer tyrone. We have been very poor this last 2 years and something needs to change.

Donegal won't hammer anyone.

Tyrone by 4.

Redhand Santa

Like all season there was some good elements to yesterday and nice passages of play but poor for periods as well which won't cut it at this level.

Management are going to have to realise that what we are doing isn't working. Going to have to put in place a system like the Kerry league game and tighten up the defence. Also have to get a new plan on opposition kickouts. There is zero point in half pressing and leaving some men free. It either has to be a full press with Morgan out and making sure we are at least competing for possession or else concede the kickout. There is no point having 5/6 men pressed up the pitch with one opposition player getting easily free and then being out of position.

We can certainly beat Donegal but it's going to take an increase in intensity and desire and a change or two. We also have to look at how we are using the bench. Too many players coming on making too little impact and weakening the team.


God14

Quote from: Redhand Santa on June 19, 2023, 10:36:35 AM
Like all season there was some good elements to yesterday and nice passages of play but poor for periods as well which won't cut it at this level.

Management are going to have to realise that what we are doing isn't working. Going to have to put in place a system like the Kerry league game and tighten up the defence. Also have to get a new plan on opposition kickouts. There is zero point in half pressing and leaving some men free. It either has to be a full press with Morgan out and making sure we are at least competing for possession or else concede the kickout. There is no point having 5/6 men pressed up the pitch with one opposition player getting easily free and then being out of position.

We can certainly beat Donegal but it's going to take an increase in intensity and desire and a change or two. We also have to look at how we are using the bench. Too many players coming on making too little impact and weakening the team.

Conceded 1-18 against Monaghan. Conceded 18 points again yesterday. No lessons learnt.  Its been clear for quite some time, that this management duo are unable to set us up defensively.

NotedObserver

What do this weekend? Burns and mcgeary to return? Play canavans and mccurry?

omagh_gael

Burns played well when he came on I thought. We need to seriously sort out our press on kick outs. Westmeath continuously had an easy option on the 45 to collect thr ball under very little pressure. We could be destroyed off Patton's kick outs as we're not playing a sweeper.

Still think we'll beat Donegal, i was at the monaghan and donegal game and Monaghan were very poor and still should have beat them. Plua McCurry was warming up all game in front of me and looked to be moving well enough so hopefully should be good for this weekend.

sam03/05

McCurry had flu by all accounts
So should be back in good order

The Trap

No more tinkering.....play the best team. Donegal have improved so this is a 50/50 game. Maybe an Ulster Derby is what Tyrone need to spark a performance:
Morgan
Mckernan
McNamee
Hampsey
Quinn
Burns
Harte
Kennedy
Kilpatrick
Mcgeary
Daragh C
Meyler
McCurry
Donnelly
Ruairi C

BrotherMore6592

Obv we don't see what's going on in training - it's a selfish point of view here from a fans perspective - but we have a monster of a man in mcgleenan on the bench, why is he on the panel if we won't use him?

Jesus he's a colossus, in at 14 with one or both canavans and McCurry round him for the break, you'd imagine it's worth a try.

Would definitely give other teams something to think about. If it didn't work he could always be subbed off and revert to type.

CK_Redhand

R Canavan is below Daragh and McCurry in the pecking order.
McGleenan is below Mattie, Kennedy, Kilpatrick and Oguz.

I have yet to see any evidence that they should be starting. Believe the management can bring these young players through in their own time.

Scoring Zone

Saturday was really poor (Bar DC) - it was still a game where Tyrone looked to be holding back (not starting McCurry), but not seeing a 4 point advantage against a mid table division 3 side is pathetic, given the supposed standards they are holding themselves too, and I still think they are not as well conditioned as they have been in the past.

Ballybofey is where the excuses stop and everything with management, backroom and players will be laid bare and if they don't get a result against a basket case of a county then it will put us back a fair bit given the standards of the last two years, and Ballybofey could be the graveyard of the Tyrone management again. The one thing I spotted from the coverage was Doohers body language, hands in the pockets and arse against the railing - either fed up or nonchalant about the result, but only a few snapshots in coverage so could mean nothing.

Not a clue what to expect to be honest.

tyrone08

Quote from: Scoring Zone on June 19, 2023, 03:20:01 PM
Saturday was really poor (Bar DC) - it was still a game where Tyrone looked to be holding back (not starting McCurry), but not seeing a 4 point advantage against a mid table division 3 side is pathetic, given the supposed standards they are holding themselves too, and I still think they are not as well conditioned as they have been in the past.

Ballybofey is where the excuses stop and everything with management, backroom and players will be laid bare and if they don't get a result against a basket case of a county then it will put us back a fair bit given the standards of the last two years, and Ballybofey could be the graveyard of the Tyrone management again. The one thing I spotted from the coverage was Doohers body language, hands in the pockets and arse against the railing - either fed up or nonchalant about the result, but only a few snapshots in coverage so could mean nothing.

Not a clue what to expect to be honest.

That's just dooher. You see him at it every game which can be a bit frustrating. Need a big target man to go alongside McCurry or darragh. Mcshane is ideal for that role.

Missing a few direct runners like mckenna did in 2021. This side way crap needs to stop. Run directly at defences and chances are you will get a score or get fouled for a free. No idea for the life of me why we don't do this.

Don't think we are holding anything back or trying not to show our hand, I thought that in 2022 and turns out we were just shit. Think it's the same this time.