Tyrone County Football and Hurling

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I think it's just frustration at the much a muchness players. These players are all top level, don't make that mistake but sometimes Tyrone could be a bit more adventurous in picking an attacking player over say, one of the attritional men. But it's not a normal situation at present.

Can't really say much, the new management have been dealt a tricky enough task. 4 Ulster clashes in a row in your first 4 games (assuming no qualification in league) is hard to implement anything other than what you know. You are straight into a dogfight and no matter what they say, they won't want to make a habit of losing straight in the door.

Our forward line on Saturday had 4 defenders in it.

Correct - we were unhappy for the latter part of the Harte years because we were too cautious.

Going by the game Saturday not much has changed.

The top teams go for the jugular - we are happy to scrape by and win games and the new management are not differing.

We need to play more forwards

Can't blame the new men for going cautious, Donegal are a better team than Tyrone - they are with their current management longer and have got an awful lot of experience - you could argue even more than Tyrone. They know how to win games in Ulster.

Conor McKenna coming back was never going to be the click the fingers moment most had hoped for but he's definitely come back better than I thought but Donegal were well ready for him after last year.

McShane would have made that a different game, the space alone he would have produced. It's exciting to think what could be around the corner.

It's not all doom and gloom, you don't know what goes on at training and how fit certain players may or may not be. With the Championship being straight knockout I doubt they'll want to give much away to Cavan either. They will get it tight against Armagh next too, Armagh will be mad looking to put a statement out there about how they are back so it won't be long until the new management find out who's ready for what they want to do.

We need to play with forwards. f**k sake we have had enough of this shite with Harte. I have been listening to this talk of a coming team this last 4 years. We're not far away, when McKenna is back, when McShane is back, when Bradley is back. f**k me it would make you boke.
If Armagh beat us next week and we're playing 13 forwards in the team, people will quite rightly be asking what the f**k is going on.

[Angelo]

How do you fit more than 2 of McCurry/Bradley/Brennan/McAliskey/Canavan/O'Neill into a team?

You just can't do it in the modern game I'm afraid and that's where Logan and Dooher are going to have a problem. They are not going to keep all them men happy, Harte got blamed for not utilising those players but they are all to similar in style, small, skillful and elusive but they lack the physicality particularly inside. So it basically boils down to who the management rate and I think Dooher and Logan rate Bradley the highest out of that lot. Harte generally preferred McCurry and McAliskey.

McShane is the key though, he gives us something different inside and hopefully he can return quickly and to his 2019 form. We really lack an alternative there.

I would have to say things aren't looking good for McNulty if he wasn't making the squad at the weekend and was fit. He is the most obvious replacement for McShane and we had McKenna and R Donnelly playing inside on Saturday despite neither of them being inside forwards.

[GetOverTheBar]

How do you fit more than 2 of McCurry/Bradley/Brennan/McAliskey/Canavan/O'Neill into a team?

You just can't do it in the modern game I'm afraid and that's where Logan and Dooher are going to have a problem. They are not going to keep all them men happy, Harte got blamed for not utilising those players but they are all to similar in style, small, skillful and elusive but they lack the physicality particularly inside. So it basically boils down to who the management rate and I think Dooher and Logan rate Bradley the highest out of that lot. Harte generally preferred McCurry and McAliskey.

McShane is the key though, he gives us something different inside and hopefully he can return quickly and to his 2019 form. We really lack an alternative there.

I would have to say things aren't looking good for McNulty if he wasn't making the squad at the weekend and was fit. He is the most obvious replacement for McShane and we had McKenna and R Donnelly playing inside on Saturday despite neither of them being inside forwards.

Donegal would have swallowed him up. Armagh would be a better game to let him go.

[bigpackiechestout]

How do you fit more than 2 of McCurry/Bradley/Brennan/McAliskey/Canavan/O'Neill into a team?

You just can't do it in the modern game I'm afraid and that's where Logan and Dooher are going to have a problem. They are not going to keep all them men happy, Harte got blamed for not utilising those players but they are all to similar in style, small, skillful and elusive but they lack the physicality particularly inside. So it basically boils down to who the management rate and I think Dooher and Logan rate Bradley the highest out of that lot. Harte generally preferred McCurry and McAliskey.

McShane is the key though, he gives us something different inside and hopefully he can return quickly and to his 2019 form. We really lack an alternative there.

I would have to say things aren't looking good for McNulty if he wasn't making the squad at the weekend and was fit. He is the most obvious replacement for McShane and we had McKenna and R Donnelly playing inside on Saturday despite neither of them being inside forwards.

I've yet to see anyone asking for this. The issue some people have raised (and I'm certainly not being critical after one game but we're allowed to discuss these things) is that Saturday's team included McGeary, Meyler and Richie Donnelly in the forward line, none of whom are natural forwards. When you add to this a midfield of Kennedy and Burns, with Cassidy and O'Neill as your wing backs, that is a fairly defensive team. A lot of people would like to see at least one and possibly two of the guys you mention on from the start and I think it's quite possible we'll get that this weekend.

[Angelo]

How do you fit more than 2 of McCurry/Bradley/Brennan/McAliskey/Canavan/O'Neill into a team?

You just can't do it in the modern game I'm afraid and that's where Logan and Dooher are going to have a problem. They are not going to keep all them men happy, Harte got blamed for not utilising those players but they are all to similar in style, small, skillful and elusive but they lack the physicality particularly inside. So it basically boils down to who the management rate and I think Dooher and Logan rate Bradley the highest out of that lot. Harte generally preferred McCurry and McAliskey.

McShane is the key though, he gives us something different inside and hopefully he can return quickly and to his 2019 form. We really lack an alternative there.

I would have to say things aren't looking good for McNulty if he wasn't making the squad at the weekend and was fit. He is the most obvious replacement for McShane and we had McKenna and R Donnelly playing inside on Saturday despite neither of them being inside forwards.

I've yet to see anyone asking for this. The issue some people have raised (and I'm certainly not being critical after one game but we're allowed to discuss these things) is that Saturday's team included McGeary, Meyler and Richie Donnelly in the forward line, none of whom are natural forwards. When you add to this a midfield of Kennedy and Burns, with Cassidy and O'Neill as your wing backs, that is a fairly defensive team. A lot of people would like to see at least one and possibly two of the guys you mention on from the start and I think it's quite possible we'll get that this weekend.

I agree but I think the team was picked with Donegal in mind, a big physical side as we've been bullied in recent matches. If you look at a lot of the teams posters out forward here, some might have 3 or 4 of those lads starting. The reality is it will be, possibly two.

Cassidy and Harte would be two attacking half backs in my view. Burns wouldn't really be a defensive option at midfield though I don't think he warrants his starting spot.

At the end of the day I don't think the selection backfired that much. A fairly ridiculous sending off had a big impact on the game.

[GetOverTheBar]

I think 6 is the only position Harte gets a start to be honest, suits his game, intelligent, good passer, rarely gives it away. Does he have a rival at CHB?

[NotedObserver]

I think 6 is the only position Harte gets a start to be honest, suits his game, intelligent, good passer, rarely gives it away. Does he have a rival at CHB?
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How many play at 6 for club? Michael ONeill does but who else? Hampsey would be good but say he will always be used as a man marker

[LeoMc]

I think 6 is the only position Harte gets a start to be honest, suits his game, intelligent, good passer, rarely gives it away. Does he have a rival at CHB?

Burns, Hampsey, R Brennan.
Harte playing at wing back, not given the 7 jersey and playing as a forward as tended to happen

[Angelo]

I think 6 is the only position Harte gets a start to be honest, suits his game, intelligent, good passer, rarely gives it away. Does he have a rival at CHB?

I think he's better at wing back than centre back. Don't think he's a hard enough defender to hold the middle. O'Neill is probably the best option there for now but will need to cut some of the nonsense out.

[Goals_Will_Come]

Final cut of the panel last night. Any word of who got dropped?

[Tyrone11234]

Didn't hear who- just heard 5 or 6 were going.

[An Watcher]

Tyrone v Armagh on GaaGo at the weekend?

[Taylor]

Tyrone v Armagh on GaaGo at the weekend?

Not sure but its certainly on Eir Sport

[Never beat the deeler]

Tyrone v Armagh on GaaGo at the weekend?

Not sure but its certainly on Eir Sport

It is on gaago, but I'm not in Ireland so it might be showing different matches for me

Schedule should be available for you here based on where you are located
https://www.gaago.ie/matches/live

[Redhand Santa]

It won't be available in Ireland on gaa go (north or south) because Eir Sport are showing it.