Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[tyroneStatto]

I think he would be a good addition for a season or two under the new management.

[Mikhailov]

Might be truth in that rumour as to why Colm quit. Tyrone were conspicuous in not marking the retirement of Colm. I believe this was under the direction of Harte.... If Colm returns what does this say about Harte's tenure?

This adds more fuel to the fire regarding the rumour. Not a word from Harte to thank CC on his retirement after all the service he had given Tyrone.
If Colm had been playing against Donegal, I doubt Mogan would have scored that goal in the first half - he wouldn't have got up the middle unopposed selling dummies to our 3 of our defenders for fun FFS

[square_ball]

Donegal did the same last year when cavanagh was playing so not sure about that one now!

[BIGONE]

what rumour?

[GetOverTheBar]

what rumour?

Colm allegedly led the anti Harte player movement. Looking back now he's gone.

[Keyboard Warrior]

What's the thoughts on this?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40211579.html

None, he's finished and was finished for about 4 years before that.

He won 2 all stars in the last 4 years?

Don't let that fact get in the way of anything 

[GetOverTheBar]

What's the thoughts on this?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40211579.html

None, he's finished and was finished for about 4 years before that.

He won 2 all stars in the last 4 years?

Don't let that fact get in the way of anything 

Rewatch the 2017 final v Dublin. I think Cavanagh got an All Star that year too. Dublin went after him, at every single opportunity and he was destroyed. Those oles are still in my mind. You don't forget that kind of embarrassing easily.

He retired, the ship is going in a new direction. Exciting times with a youthful set up. No need for him back unless he's happy to be a last 15, helping see a game out man. In which case, of course, why not - But I don't see Cavanagh being happy as a bit part player somehow. He can't start, Christ could you imagine Fenton running at him now?

[trailer]

Like him or hate Colm was probably Tyrone's best player over the last 5 years and certainly towards the end of Harte's reign of terror. He papered over a lot of Harte's inadequacies as a manager and shored up a team that had very little ambition as most of the counties best players refused to tog out. Harte should thank Colm from the bottom of his heart because his managerial record is only blotted and not completely ruined. Louth is Harte's level now. Division 4.

[Jim Bob]

What's the thoughts on this?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40211579.html

None, he's finished and was finished for about 4 years before that.

He won 2 all stars in the last 4 years?

Don't let that fact get in the way of anything 

Rewatch the 2017 final v Dublin. I think Cavanagh got an All Star that year too. Dublin went after him, at every single opportunity and he was destroyed. Those oles are still in my mind. You don't forget that kind of embarrassing easily.

He retired, the ship is going in a new direction. Exciting times with a youthful set up. No need for him back unless he's happy to be a last 15, helping see a game out man. In which case, of course, why not - But I don't see Cavanagh being happy as a bit part player somehow. He can't start, Christ could you imagine Fenton running at him now?

2018 it was....

[LeoMc]

Like him or hate Colm was probably Tyrone's best player over the last 5 years and certainly towards the end of Harte's reign of terror. He papered over a lot of Harte's inadequacies as a manager and shored up a team that had very little ambition as most of the counties best players refused to tog out. Harte should thank Colm from the bottom of his heart because his managerial record is only blotted and not completely ruined. Louth is Harte's level now. Division 4.

Go on then.

[LeoMc]

. I would never have completely ruled it out, but I think at this stage unless something changes in my head over the next few weeks then I'll probably not see a return, but I wouldn't 100 per cent rule it out at this stage.

A bit of a non story. He was approached, thought about it over Christmas, probably won't.

[BennyHarp]

Like him or hate Colm was probably Tyrone's best player over the last 5 years and certainly towards the end of Harte's reign of terror. He papered over a lot of Harte's inadequacies as a manager and shored up a team that had very little ambition as most of the counties best players refused to tog out. Harte should thank Colm from the bottom of his heart because his managerial record is only blotted and not completely ruined. Louth is Harte's level now. Division 4.

It's amazing how reality no longer has a place in what people say and post. Strange times.

[Lamh Dhearg Alba]

Reading Colm's comments I was reminded of a poster on here claiming that current Tyrone players not speaking out against Mickey showed he had their support and felt he was their best chance of success. In reality it would have been impossible for any player who wanted to play for Tyrone to have spoken out, but here we have a man who gave years of service and was in recent years pivotal to the team saying there was a widespread feeling within the panel for a while now that they wanted a change.

In particular the comments about things not changing within the setup are interesting and also that senior players clearly felt they couldn't question this or raise it. These are issues Mickey raised in his books as matters that managers needed to be aware of but that he appears to, in the end, have done himself. I always felt Mickey stayed at least 5 years too long qnd these comments support that. Fascinating too that Cavanagh questions the way "management" set them up for certain games.

Have to say also that it's unfortunate he feels let down by the fact his retirement wasn't marked by Mickey or the county board. Whatever was happening behind the scenes Colm Cavanagh put a lot into the county team (and with great support from Mickey, particularly when he struggled for a time for a role in the team) and never publicly questioned anything. Even now his comments are still guarded and qualified with praise for Mickey's achievements. Mickey and the board should have been big enough to mark his retirement with a few words of thanks. Perhaps that also is another sign that the management had become rather entrenched because it's not the kind of behaviour you'd associate with Mickey Harte.

Is Colm worth another shot? Seems unlikely but perhaps there is a certain role he could play over a season, even if he wasn't starting every game. It's a good sign at least that they are considering every option. He is right that a change after so long under 1 manager does bring a freshness that can reinvigorate existing panel members, as well as giving an opportunity to new players.

[Angelo]

Cavanagh is done as a starter but we do have major problems in midfield. If he would be willing to come back as a 15 minute option at the end to help close games out then he could contribute but I think management are better concerned looking to the future.

If there is a midfielder we should be looking at bringing in to the county setup then that is Paudie McNulty. Any word on why McNulty isn't involved, management decided to go with other options of did he turn down a recall?

Don't really know much regarding the rumours but Cavanagh was one of Harte's first names on the teamsheet up until he quit. Personally I think players expecting public proclamations of gratitude is a bit vain, I think there's a much better look when players go quietly. I actually don't recall James Horan coming out and saying much with regard all the Mayo retirements in the last few weeks. It looks like the usual slabberers like trailer coming out and spreading nonsense to push their agenda.

Cavanagh was a great servant to Tyrone over the years, an example of a player who really worked on his game and turned in from being a much maligned player who bore the brunt of fans frustrations to being one of Tyrone's key men and a real leader. I would say Cavanagh if anything should be very grateful to Harte who stuck by him during those early years when he was lambasted for picking him.

[TyroneOnlooker]

Cavanagh is done as a starter but we do have major problems in midfield. If he would be willing to come back as a 15 minute option at the end to help close games out then he could contribute but I think management are better concerned looking to the future.

If there is a midfielder we should be looking at bringing in to the county setup then that is Paudie McNulty. Any word on why McNulty isn't involved, management decided to go with other options of did he turn down a recall?

Don't really know much regarding the rumours but Cavanagh was one of Harte's first names on the teamsheet up until he quit. Personally I think players expecting public proclamations of gratitude is a bit vain, I think there's a much better look when players go quietly. I actually don't recall James Horan coming out and saying much with regard all the Mayo retirements in the last few weeks. It looks like the usual slabberers like trailer coming out and spreading nonsense to push their agenda.

Cavanagh was a great servant to Tyrone over the years, an example of a player who really worked on his game and turned in from being a much maligned player who bore the brunt of fans frustrations to being one of Tyrone's key men and a real leader. I would say Cavanagh if anything should be very grateful to Harte who stuck by him during those early years when he was lambasted for picking him.

Is mcnulty not 28/29, married, young family, family chip shop business.  Not conducive to county football although the split season certainly makes things a bit easier but still an awful lot to commit to. I imagine he was at least invited to join/trial by the new management. Suppose county football isn't the be all and end all for everyone.

Need to concentrate on Kennedy and kilpatrick in midfield. Two men I think will improve with more exposure to county football. They're the best we've got anyway IMO