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« Reply #10995 on: November 15, 2019, 11:36:42 AM »
Is mark Bradley back? Seen him in the paper this week playing soccer. Why is it almost always talented forwards that quit the county panel? Obviously not an enjoyable experience?

Is that not the case in other counties too, the modern game requires a lot physically and the toe of forward that would have prospered 10-15 years would find it a lot more difficult these days.

McShane is the type of forward that excels in the modern game, you need to be able to win it any which way. We have a lot of samey type small skilful forwards but you look at the other top teams and their forward lines are comprised of big, physical and athletic players.

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« Reply #10996 on: November 15, 2019, 11:59:54 AM »
Is mark Bradley back? Seen him in the paper this week playing soccer. Why is it almost always talented forwards that quit the county panel? Obviously not an enjoyable experience?

Is that not the case in other counties too, the modern game requires a lot physically and the toe of forward that would have prospered 10-15 years would find it a lot more difficult these days.

McShane is the type of forward that excels in the modern game, you need to be able to win it any which way. We have a lot of samey type small skilful forwards but you look at the other top teams and their forward lines are comprised of big, physical and athletic players.
so we shouldn't get excited about young canavan? Too small and light?

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« Reply #10997 on: November 15, 2019, 12:00:53 PM »
Is mark Bradley back? Seen him in the paper this week playing soccer. Why is it almost always talented forwards that quit the county panel? Obviously not an enjoyable experience?

Get your ass kissed at your club about how good you are, which is more often than not true enough to be fair.

Go to county, where you have to do the shit you don't do because the average lads cover you (such as tackle and track). Don't like it, leave.

Fair enough, it's where Tyrone are at - no point yapping about Harte. He won't change. Although inside mark coming in showed that Tyrone can actually play decent stuff with that rule.

Is it in for clubs on that matter does anyone know?

Interesting, never thought of it in that way!!

Heard Daniel Kerr has been called up, probably the pick of the forwards called up!
Not sure if Brennan or Bradley would want to go back!

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« Reply #10998 on: November 15, 2019, 12:06:01 PM »
Is mark Bradley back? Seen him in the paper this week playing soccer. Why is it almost always talented forwards that quit the county panel? Obviously not an enjoyable experience?

Get your ass kissed at your club about how good you are, which is more often than not true enough to be fair.

Go to county, where you have to do the shit you don't do because the average lads cover you (such as tackle and track). Don't like it, leave.

Fair enough, it's where Tyrone are at - no point yapping about Harte. He won't change. Although inside mark coming in showed that Tyrone can actually play decent stuff with that rule.

Is it in for clubs on that matter does anyone know?

Interesting, never thought of it in that way!!

Heard Daniel Kerr has been called up, probably the pick of the forwards called up!
Not sure if Brennan or Bradley would want to go back!

Any of the u20s i wonder?

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« Reply #10999 on: November 15, 2019, 12:19:45 PM »
Any word if Danny McNulty back in the reckoning then?

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« Reply #11000 on: November 15, 2019, 12:22:48 PM »
Is mark Bradley back? Seen him in the paper this week playing soccer. Why is it almost always talented forwards that quit the county panel? Obviously not an enjoyable experience?

Is that not the case in other counties too, the modern game requires a lot physically and the toe of forward that would have prospered 10-15 years would find it a lot more difficult these days.

McShane is the type of forward that excels in the modern game, you need to be able to win it any which way. We have a lot of samey type small skilful forwards but you look at the other top teams and their forward lines are comprised of big, physical and athletic players.
so we shouldn't get excited about young canavan? Too small and light?

It will be difficult for him, I think he will be a lot more useful for Tyrone out around the half forward line as a playmaker rather than a scoring inside forward. If you look around at all the top forwards in the game, there are very few if any with a frame or stature similar to young Canavan.

Mark Devlin is the forward I'm most excited about seeing in the coming years for Tyrone but he's 3/4 years away from playing senior football.

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« Reply #11001 on: November 15, 2019, 12:26:31 PM »
I was talking to someone close to Bradley about a week after he came home from America and they said he wasn't that fussed on going back to the county. That was about 2 months ago however so his mindset could well have changed since then.

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« Reply #11002 on: November 15, 2019, 12:40:31 PM »
Conor McAliskey has no ambition. He clearly isn't interested in adding to his haul of 14 McKenna cups. Or getting relegated from Division 1 or indeed exiting the USFC at the first hurdle before then going on to defeat such giants as Longford, Wexford, and Sligo en route to an AISF defeat to hands of Kerry, Dublin or Mayo.
The question must now be asked, who will play as the fourth left half back now?

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« Reply #11003 on: November 15, 2019, 12:47:01 PM »
Is mark Bradley back? Seen him in the paper this week playing soccer. Why is it almost always talented forwards that quit the county panel? Obviously not an enjoyable experience?

Get your ass kissed at your club about how good you are, which is more often than not true enough to be fair.

Go to county, where you have to do the shit you don't do because the average lads cover you (such as tackle and track). Don't like it, leave.

Fair enough, it's where Tyrone are at - no point yapping about Harte. He won't change. Although inside mark coming in showed that Tyrone can actually play decent stuff with that rule.

Is it in for clubs on that matter does anyone know?

Interesting, never thought of it in that way!!

Heard Daniel Kerr has been called up, probably the pick of the forwards called up!
Not sure if Brennan or Bradley would want to go back!
Probably go back when/if there is ever a different management team? Talking to a few players over the years Harte is quite unapproachable when you are not a household name. Not great for young players if the manager is unapproachable in terms of feedback and getting yourself in the conversation for places.

In my opinion Tyrone are one of the worst counties in Ireland for introducing young talent into seniors. It either doesn't happen, or they are introduced don't perform well enough on their first or second opportunity and left to sit on the bench the whole season, then the confidence takes a hit. I could name at least 10 young players on the current team that this has happened to and god knows how many young players over the years..

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« Reply #11004 on: November 15, 2019, 12:50:42 PM »
Any word if Danny McNulty back in the reckoning then?

Doubt it, from what I hear McClure is going also from panel.

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« Reply #11005 on: November 15, 2019, 12:54:49 PM »
Mc aliskey scored something like 2-41 in 2018 and yet this year his only start was against Dublin in the dead rubber? Any wonder he walked.

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« Reply #11006 on: November 15, 2019, 12:56:38 PM »
Is mark Bradley back? Seen him in the paper this week playing soccer. Why is it almost always talented forwards that quit the county panel? Obviously not an enjoyable experience?

Get your ass kissed at your club about how good you are, which is more often than not true enough to be fair.

Go to county, where you have to do the shit you don't do because the average lads cover you (such as tackle and track). Don't like it, leave.

Fair enough, it's where Tyrone are at - no point yapping about Harte. He won't change. Although inside mark coming in showed that Tyrone can actually play decent stuff with that rule.

Is it in for clubs on that matter does anyone know?

Interesting, never thought of it in that way!!

Heard Daniel Kerr has been called up, probably the pick of the forwards called up!
Not sure if Brennan or Bradley would want to go back!
Probably go back when/if there is ever a different management team? Talking to a few players over the years Harte is quite unapproachable when you are not a household name. Not great for young players if the manager is unapproachable in terms of feedback and getting yourself in the conversation for places.

In my opinion Tyrone are one of the worst counties in Ireland for introducing young talent into seniors. It either doesn't happen, or they are introduced don't perform well enough on their first or second opportunity and left to sit on the bench the whole season, then the confidence takes a hit. I could name at least 10 young players on the current team that this has happened to and god knows how many young players over the years..

I would say the opposite, we are a top 4 county at senior level but our success rate is a bit checkered at underage level in the past decade.

We have done very well at introducing young players in recent years. I think we are too quick to blame management for players not delivering, it's up to the player to put his head down and keep working - the ones that do reap the rewards.

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« Reply #11007 on: November 15, 2019, 01:06:13 PM »
Mc aliskey delivered in 2018. His reward? Sub every game this year.

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« Reply #11008 on: November 15, 2019, 01:10:32 PM »
Any word if Danny McNulty back in the reckoning then?

Doubt it, from what I hear McClure is going also from panel.

Sounds like there is going to be a massive push on from Clonoe next year then.

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« Reply #11009 on: November 15, 2019, 01:10:46 PM »
Mc aliskey scored something like 2-41 in 2018 and yet this year his only start was against Dublin in the dead rubber? Any wonder he walked.

He missed nearly the entire league campaign with a serious ankle injury and appeared in every Championship game. The qualifier against Cavan was the only championship game he didn't feature in.

The fact is his form was not great last year, he had a good cameo against Antrim but then followed it up with a very poor display in the Donegal game where he struggled to make an impact after being brought on in the first 10 minutes.

I don't think it's a lack of game time that prompted his decision, Harte clearly rates him as an important player.