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« Reply #10815 on: October 01, 2019, 11:05:16 AM »
it will be sad when the inevitable happens and countless quality players dont get a chance  especially when there are so many passengers on the current squad
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« Reply #10816 on: October 01, 2019, 12:20:52 PM »
A few obervations,
Munroe won't be playing under Harte
McNulty Clonoe probably wouldn't play county
Canavan is probably a year too young
McShane thrived this year because Stevie ONeill was there
Lee Brennan should be starting

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« Reply #10817 on: October 01, 2019, 12:46:54 PM »
What's the problem with Munroe and harte?

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« Reply #10818 on: October 01, 2019, 01:05:41 PM »
What's the problem with Munroe and harte?

No idea. But no doubt Munroe is an unreal ball player, but he couldnt make the u20 26 squad, so dont see how he could be drafted right into the Tyrone senior team. Although he was on the u20 panel.
What relation is him and Johnny Munroe?

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« Reply #10819 on: October 01, 2019, 01:25:42 PM »
I'm assuming brother? Raymond's sons?

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« Reply #10820 on: October 01, 2019, 01:27:03 PM »
Cormac still has another year at U20. He's Johnnys cousin I think.

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« Reply #10821 on: October 01, 2019, 01:32:50 PM »
A few obervations,
Munroe won't be playing under Harte
McNulty Clonoe probably wouldn't play county
Canavan is probably a year too young
McShane thrived this year because Stevie ONeill was there
Lee Brennan should be starting

Having saw Brennan in the championship I'd be more convinced than ever that he shouldn't start. I still think he could be useful of the bench. Hit a couple of cracking frees on Sunday though missed a few easier ones in the previous game. But it's from open play that his issues are. He struggles to get on the ball and is dropping deeper now to try and get it. Wasn't dangerous from open play at all.

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« Reply #10822 on: October 01, 2019, 02:12:20 PM »
A few obervations,
Munroe won't be playing under Harte
McNulty Clonoe probably wouldn't play county
Canavan is probably a year too young
McShane thrived this year because Stevie ONeill was there
Lee Brennan should be starting

Having saw Brennan in the championship I'd be more convinced than ever that he shouldn't start. I still think he could be useful of the bench. Hit a couple of cracking frees on Sunday though missed a few easier ones in the previous game. But it's from open play that his issues are. He struggles to get on the ball and is dropping deeper now to try and get it. Wasn't dangerous from open play at all.

I agree, he can sing but he cant dance - metaphorically

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« Reply #10823 on: October 01, 2019, 03:22:51 PM »
A few obervations,
Munroe won't be playing under Harte
McNulty Clonoe probably wouldn't play county
Canavan is probably a year too young
McShane thrived this year because Stevie ONeill was there
Lee Brennan should be starting

Having saw Brennan in the championship I'd be more convinced than ever that he shouldn't start. I still think he could be useful of the bench. Hit a couple of cracking frees on Sunday though missed a few easier ones in the previous game. But it's from open play that his issues are. He struggles to get on the ball and is dropping deeper now to try and get it. Wasn't dangerous from open play at all.

I agree, he can sing but he cant dance - metaphorically
Meant to be a fierce guitar player to be fair..

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« Reply #10824 on: October 01, 2019, 06:02:31 PM »
A few obervations,
Munroe won't be playing under Harte
McNulty Clonoe probably wouldn't play county
Canavan is probably a year too young
McShane thrived this year because Stevie ONeill was there
Lee Brennan should be starting

Munroe couldn't make the u20 team this year so he's not a viable option in the immeadiate term.
Dan McNulty has played very little football in recent years and I'm not sure if he's motivated to play or whether his body would be able to withstand it.
Agreed on Canavan, he should see his time out with the u20s. I don't think he has the physique to be making a worthwhile impact at present.
McShane may have picked a lot off O'Neill but it's not as if he was being operated by him on remote control.
I wouldn't have Lee Brennan on a matchday 26 for Tyrone at present, I don't think he offers anything above what the likes of Bradley, McAliskey and McCurry do and at present it's a struggle to get two of them into the starting side.

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« Reply #10825 on: October 01, 2019, 06:07:37 PM »
A few obervations,
Munroe won't be playing under Harte
McNulty Clonoe probably wouldn't play county
Canavan is probably a year too young
McShane thrived this year because Stevie ONeill was there
Lee Brennan should be starting

Munroe couldn't make the u20 team this year so he's not a viable option in the immeadiate term.
Dan McNulty has played very little football in recent years and I'm not sure if he's motivated to play or whether his body would be able to withstand it.
Agreed on Canavan, he should see his time out with the u20s. I don't think he has the physique to be making a worthwhile impact at present.
McShane may have picked a lot off O'Neill but it's not as if he was being operated by him on remote control.
I wouldn't have Lee Brennan on a matchday 26 for Tyrone at present, I don't think he offers anything above what the likes of Bradley, McAliskey and McCurry do and at present it's a struggle to get two of them into the starting side.

Tyrone need to be playing 2 forwards upfront next year. I would have mcshane and bradley as they each offer something different. Lee would be a good option of the bench. If he is constant with frees he worth starting as Tyrone have lacked a reliable free taker for years. Still not convinced with mc curry but I appreciate its difficult to impress if you are getting limited game time. Think it was against Cork that he started to impress

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« Reply #10826 on: October 01, 2019, 07:05:21 PM »
A few obervations,
Munroe won't be playing under Harte
McNulty Clonoe probably wouldn't play county
Canavan is probably a year too young
McShane thrived this year because Stevie ONeill was there
Lee Brennan should be starting


Munroe couldn't make the u20 team this year so he's not a viable option in the immeadiate term.
Dan McNulty has played very little football in recent years and I'm not sure if he's motivated to play or whether his body would be able to withstand it.
Agreed on Canavan, he should see his time out with the u20s. I don't think he has the physique to be making a worthwhile impact at present.
McShane may have picked a lot off O'Neill but it's not as if he was being operated by him on remote control.
I wouldn't have Lee Brennan on a matchday 26 for Tyrone at present, I don't think he offers anything above what the likes of Bradley, McAliskey and McCurry do and at present it's a struggle to get two of them into the starting side.

Tyrone need to be playing 2 forwards upfront next year. I would have mcshane and bradley as they each offer something different. Lee would be a good option of the bench. If he is constant with frees he worth starting as Tyrone have lacked a reliable free taker for years. Still not convinced with mc curry but I appreciate its difficult to impress if you are getting limited game time. Think it was against Cork that he started to impress

McCurry had a couple of very good games against Cavan and Kildare in the qualifiers but I thought he was quite poor against Roscommon and Cork. I really like McCurry as a footballer, he has a lovely style about him and is a smashing player, he gets his shots off very quickly and when he has the bit between his teeth he can do serious damage. The problem is he is very much a confidence player and when things aren't going well he hides and the past 4 or so seasons from him have been far more miss than hit. I hope he can get some consistent form and make himself undroppable because Mickey Harte definitely rates him.

McAliskey and Bradley have a little bit of that inconsistency about them too but not to the same degree as McCurry. Apart from his size what goes against Bradley is that he can be a little wasteful in front of the posts but he's an extremely honest player and will work his socks off and never stop looking for the ball even when things aren't going well for him. Skeet is the most powerful of the 3 and like McCurry is a real confidence player, when things are going well he is lethal but a few misses can damage his confidence. I wouldn't accuse him of hiding like McCurry can though.

Brennan for me just seems too lazy, he doesn't put in the same work rate on and off the ball that the other three do. He's great talent but a lot of things he does are far too indulgent. In the semi final he started against Monaghan in 2018 he kicked some amount of stupid shots away when they weren't on and there were far better options on.

I agree we need to be playing someone inside with McShane, personally I think the best option is Donnelly up there with Harte and Bradley operating a little bit behind them. I think we need to make more of an effort to keep more players pushed up this year and take a little bit of the pressure off McShane.

We need a few more players to step up to the mantle this year, McShane did last year and for that reason I am a little more optiimistic about our chances next year in contrast to this time last year.

Our biggest issue for me is no 6, we have been moving a little more away from a sweeper in the past two seasons and you look at some of the soft goals we've coughed up when teams run through the middle of us, the two goals against Cork, the one Derry got against us, O'Brien's goal, the goal Kildare got, Brennan's goal for Donegal. All carbon copies of each other. Hampsey is probably our best option there but when we play the big teams we will likely need to get him to do a marking job. Guys like Burns and McKernan consistently get suckered  into the ball and are oblivious to what danger in behind. We've tried a few there in recent years - Burns, Brennan, McGeary, Sludden, McDonnell, Hampsey. I think Brennan has proven with his form that he is great asset to us at corner back, Hampsey will always be swapping about as he is our go to man marker. The rest of those mentioned just don't seem to have the nose for danger to stop us.


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« Reply #10827 on: October 02, 2019, 07:22:00 AM »
A few obervations,
Munroe won't be playing under Harte
McNulty Clonoe probably wouldn't play county
Canavan is probably a year too young
McShane thrived this year because Stevie ONeill was there
Lee Brennan should be starting


Munroe couldn't make the u20 team this year so he's not a viable option in the immeadiate term.
Dan McNulty has played very little football in recent years and I'm not sure if he's motivated to play or whether his body would be able to withstand it.
Agreed on Canavan, he should see his time out with the u20s. I don't think he has the physique to be making a worthwhile impact at present.
McShane may have picked a lot off O'Neill but it's not as if he was being operated by him on remote control.
I wouldn't have Lee Brennan on a matchday 26 for Tyrone at present, I don't think he offers anything above what the likes of Bradley, McAliskey and McCurry do and at present it's a struggle to get two of them into the starting side.

Tyrone need to be playing 2 forwards upfront next year. I would have mcshane and bradley as they each offer something different. Lee would be a good option of the bench. If he is constant with frees he worth starting as Tyrone have lacked a reliable free taker for years. Still not convinced with mc curry but I appreciate its difficult to impress if you are getting limited game time. Think it was against Cork that he started to impress

McCurry had a couple of very good games against Cavan and Kildare in the qualifiers but I thought he was quite poor against Roscommon and Cork. I really like McCurry as a footballer, he has a lovely style about him and is a smashing player, he gets his shots off very quickly and when he has the bit between his teeth he can do serious damage. The problem is he is very much a confidence player and when things aren't going well he hides and the past 4 or so seasons from him have been far more miss than hit. I hope he can get some consistent form and make himself undroppable because Mickey Harte definitely rates him.

McAliskey and Bradley have a little bit of that inconsistency about them too but not to the same degree as McCurry. Apart from his size what goes against Bradley is that he can be a little wasteful in front of the posts but he's an extremely honest player and will work his socks off and never stop looking for the ball even when things aren't going well for him. Skeet is the most powerful of the 3 and like McCurry is a real confidence player, when things are going well he is lethal but a few misses can damage his confidence. I wouldn't accuse him of hiding like McCurry can though.

Brennan for me just seems too lazy, he doesn't put in the same work rate on and off the ball that the other three do. He's great talent but a lot of things he does are far too indulgent. In the semi final he started against Monaghan in 2018 he kicked some amount of stupid shots away when they weren't on and there were far better options on.

I agree we need to be playing someone inside with McShane, personally I think the best option is Donnelly up there with Harte and Bradley operating a little bit behind them. I think we need to make more of an effort to keep more players pushed up this year and take a little bit of the pressure off McShane.

We need a few more players to step up to the mantle this year, McShane did last year and for that reason I am a little more optiimistic about our chances next year in contrast to this time last year.

Our biggest issue for me is no 6, we have been moving a little more away from a sweeper in the past two seasons and you look at some of the soft goals we've coughed up when teams run through the middle of us, the two goals against Cork, the one Derry got against us, O'Brien's goal, the goal Kildare got, Brennan's goal for Donegal. All carbon copies of each other. Hampsey is probably our best option there but when we play the big teams we will likely need to get him to do a marking job. Guys like Burns and McKernan consistently get suckered  into the ball and are oblivious to what danger in behind. We've tried a few there in recent years - Burns, Brennan, McGeary, Sludden, McDonnell, Hampsey. I think Brennan has proven with his form that he is great asset to us at corner back, Hampsey will always be swapping about as he is our go to man marker. The rest of those mentioned just don't seem to have the nose for danger to stop us.

Imo a complete clear out in that panel is needed going by recent club championship games certain lads deserve a chance and are every bit as good as lads on that squad.
Time for conal mc cann, brendan burns, mc hugh, mc donnell,  mc Laughlin, maybe even tiarnan mc cann awful season at club and county to go and freshen up again at club level.

Give Ryan Gray, niall kelly, Kilpatrick from pomeroy, dan mc nulty, conor quinn galbally. Also get bradley back in their.

Leave canavan and Grimes with 20s until their championship is over.

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« Reply #10828 on: October 02, 2019, 07:47:15 AM »
A few obervations,
Munroe won't be playing under Harte
McNulty Clonoe probably wouldn't play county
Canavan is probably a year too young
McShane thrived this year because Stevie ONeill was there
Lee Brennan should be starting


Munroe couldn't make the u20 team this year so he's not a viable option in the immeadiate term.
Dan McNulty has played very little football in recent years and I'm not sure if he's motivated to play or whether his body would be able to withstand it.
Agreed on Canavan, he should see his time out with the u20s. I don't think he has the physique to be making a worthwhile impact at present.
McShane may have picked a lot off O'Neill but it's not as if he was being operated by him on remote control.
I wouldn't have Lee Brennan on a matchday 26 for Tyrone at present, I don't think he offers anything above what the likes of Bradley, McAliskey and McCurry do and at present it's a struggle to get two of them into the starting side.

Tyrone need to be playing 2 forwards upfront next year. I would have mcshane and bradley as they each offer something different. Lee would be a good option of the bench. If he is constant with frees he worth starting as Tyrone have lacked a reliable free taker for years. Still not convinced with mc curry but I appreciate its difficult to impress if you are getting limited game time. Think it was against Cork that he started to impress

McCurry had a couple of very good games against Cavan and Kildare in the qualifiers but I thought he was quite poor against Roscommon and Cork. I really like McCurry as a footballer, he has a lovely style about him and is a smashing player, he gets his shots off very quickly and when he has the bit between his teeth he can do serious damage. The problem is he is very much a confidence player and when things aren't going well he hides and the past 4 or so seasons from him have been far more miss than hit. I hope he can get some consistent form and make himself undroppable because Mickey Harte definitely rates him.

McAliskey and Bradley have a little bit of that inconsistency about them too but not to the same degree as McCurry. Apart from his size what goes against Bradley is that he can be a little wasteful in front of the posts but he's an extremely honest player and will work his socks off and never stop looking for the ball even when things aren't going well for him. Skeet is the most powerful of the 3 and like McCurry is a real confidence player, when things are going well he is lethal but a few misses can damage his confidence. I wouldn't accuse him of hiding like McCurry can though.

Brennan for me just seems too lazy, he doesn't put in the same work rate on and off the ball that the other three do. He's great talent but a lot of things he does are far too indulgent. In the semi final he started against Monaghan in 2018 he kicked some amount of stupid shots away when they weren't on and there were far better options on.

I agree we need to be playing someone inside with McShane, personally I think the best option is Donnelly up there with Harte and Bradley operating a little bit behind them. I think we need to make more of an effort to keep more players pushed up this year and take a little bit of the pressure off McShane.

We need a few more players to step up to the mantle this year, McShane did last year and for that reason I am a little more optiimistic about our chances next year in contrast to this time last year.

Our biggest issue for me is no 6, we have been moving a little more away from a sweeper in the past two seasons and you look at some of the soft goals we've coughed up when teams run through the middle of us, the two goals against Cork, the one Derry got against us, O'Brien's goal, the goal Kildare got, Brennan's goal for Donegal. All carbon copies of each other. Hampsey is probably our best option there but when we play the big teams we will likely need to get him to do a marking job. Guys like Burns and McKernan consistently get suckered  into the ball and are oblivious to what danger in behind. We've tried a few there in recent years - Burns, Brennan, McGeary, Sludden, McDonnell, Hampsey. I think Brennan has proven with his form that he is great asset to us at corner back, Hampsey will always be swapping about as he is our go to man marker. The rest of those mentioned just don't seem to have the nose for danger to stop us.

Imo a complete clear out in that panel is needed going by recent club championship games certain lads deserve a chance and are every bit as good as lads on that squad.
Time for conal mc cann, brendan burns, mc hugh, mc donnell,  mc Laughlin, maybe even tiarnan mc cann awful season at club and county to go and freshen up again at club level.

Give Ryan Gray, niall kelly, Kilpatrick from pomeroy, dan mc nulty, conor quinn galbally. Also get bradley back in their.

Leave canavan and Grimes with 20s until their championship is over.

I'd agree on an overhaul. I think it's a bit soon to be chasing the likes of McDonnell and McLaughlin though. The others probably aren't really going to make it at this stage. T McCann really needs to up his game to get back near a starting shirt but he had a bad year with injuries so I'd cut him some slack.

I'd be looking at cutting 6 or 7 players from the squad before the McKenna Cup starts and there'd be a few more needing to convince in that in order to stay on. I think we have a core 20 or so players right now that are safe, after that everyone is expendable and there's a lot of guys making good claims outside the panel.

Think Grimes is overage for u20s next year and looks like he is physically ready for the step up so I'd expect him to get a call during the winter months.

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« Reply #10829 on: October 02, 2019, 08:45:45 AM »
I see on Twitter last night a club player giving off about 2 club games been changed to accommodate a Club Tyrone Fundraising event involving McShane and McNamee. Assuming by the tweet the clubs involved did not agree to this. Absolute disregard for the club player further highlighted.