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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #7110 on: May 18, 2018, 03:58:50 PM »
Eugene and art were the ones to spot seans talents and gave him his chance in 02. Sean Cavanagh made Harte!

 I love Big Art but saying him and Eugene ďspottedĒ Sean's talents is as laughable a comment as I've ever seen on here.
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« Reply #7111 on: May 18, 2018, 04:02:59 PM »
Rewriting history there lads. Sean Cavanagh played for Tyrone u21s in 2002 when they were beaten in the all Ireland by Dublin. Plus he was a corner forward under McKenna and McCrory in 2002 so who converted him to a midfielder and then full forward? Or did Sean just take it upon himself to take those jerseys? As I say you boys love rewriting history to suit your agendas.

Hardly took a genius to move him out to midfield. Sean carried Tyrone over the line in 2008 All Ireland final and Harte then totally scapegoated him in his book after 2009 defeat. No gratitude or humility from Harte

Again Iíll ask - did Sean move himself into full forward that year?

This management lark sounds pretty easy. You lads should put yourselves out in the club scene instead of educating us all on here. Then again most of you reckon Mattie McGleenan is a top manager so on 2nd thoughts maybe donít!

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« Reply #7112 on: May 18, 2018, 04:16:45 PM »
Eugene and art were the ones to spot seans talents and gave him his chance in 02. Sean Cavanagh made Harte!

2002... the year Sean scored the equalising last minute goal in Ulster Championship v Armagh for the Seniors but couldnt make Mickey's U21 squad. Also the year Mickey won the All-Ireland U21. Unwillingness to introduce Sean to the squad another sign of his stubbornness. Though the whole Glencull thing tops the lot. Principled man in his own words. Happy enough to set his principles aside to get McCarron back in the fold but gave scores of players the silent treatment during his tenure treating them like meat suits and training ground fodder.

Sean was still a minor in 2001 and turned down the chance to play u21 as far as Iím aware. But sure harte did a terrible job winning the all Ireland with the u21s in 2001.

Thereís a lot to be said for resolving things face to face instead of through the media. Shocking way things are becoming.

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« Reply #7113 on: May 18, 2018, 04:32:04 PM »
Is Sean got a book about to arrive for Xmas,he is setting the tone for a good wee earner.

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« Reply #7114 on: May 18, 2018, 05:37:17 PM »
Eugene and art were the ones to spot seans talents and gave him his chance in 02. Sean Cavanagh made Harte!

2002... the year Sean scored the equalising last minute goal in Ulster Championship v Armagh for the Seniors but couldnt make Mickey's U21 squad. Also the year Mickey won the All-Ireland U21. Unwillingness to introduce Sean to the squad another sign of his stubbornness. Though the whole Glencull thing tops the lot. Principled man in his own words. Happy enough to set his principles aside to get McCarron back in the fold but gave scores of players the silent treatment during his tenure treating them like meat suits and training ground fodder.

Sean was still a minor in 2001 and turned down the chance to play u21 as far as Iím aware. But sure harte did a terrible job winning the all Ireland with the u21s in 2001.

Thereís a lot to be said for resolving things face to face instead of through the media. Shocking way things are becoming.

Mickey is reaping what he sowed with Sean in that book. Looks like Sean bided his time

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« Reply #7115 on: May 18, 2018, 05:54:55 PM »
Few months ago Sean telling us how great the Moy was. Then he fecks off to RTE missing a game. From the little air time Iíve seen heís been poor. Sadly trying to make a name for himself. RTE will soon have him sat beside Joe and he can mock him and Tyrone for a few hours Iím sure he canít believe his luck he will get the chance. Very disappointing way to go. Sad because as a player and leader he was immense. Iím sure other players have had issues with harte CB set up training etc.. etc.. but they have resisted the mud slinging. Could Joe have been right about one thing....... As a man....... 

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« Reply #7116 on: May 18, 2018, 05:58:45 PM »
Wonder how Colm and Mickey are getting on? Bound to be a bit awkward.........surely there is a bit of slagging going on among the players....

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« Reply #7117 on: May 18, 2018, 10:00:38 PM »
It's called karma. Don't talk out of school or it could come back to bite you. Loyalty has to be a two way street.  And this  a year after Cavanagh dragged Tyrone over the line in the last 20 minutes of All Ireland final.
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« Reply #7118 on: May 18, 2018, 10:24:50 PM »
Rewriting history there lads. Sean Cavanagh played for Tyrone u21s in 2002 when they were beaten in the all Ireland by Dublin. Plus he was a corner forward under McKenna and McCrory in 2002 so who converted him to a midfielder and then full forward? Or did Sean just take it upon himself to take those jerseys? As I say you boys love rewriting history to suit your agendas.
before you go accusing people or rewriting history, get your own history right. s cavanagh played in 2003 u 21 final not 2002.

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« Reply #7119 on: May 18, 2018, 10:50:16 PM »
Teamtalk tweetin beggan trained in Healy park this afternoon. Did porter let him in

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« Reply #7120 on: May 18, 2018, 11:00:46 PM »
Rewriting history there lads. Sean Cavanagh played for Tyrone u21s in 2002 when they were beaten in the all Ireland by Dublin. Plus he was a corner forward under McKenna and McCrory in 2002 so who converted him to a midfielder and then full forward? Or did Sean just take it upon himself to take those jerseys? As I say you boys love rewriting history to suit your agendas.
before you go accusing people or rewriting history, get your own history right. s cavanagh played in 2003 u 21 final not 2002.

Aye he was playing for Tyrone u21s in 2002 under Mickey Harte which one of your mates disputed.

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« Reply #7121 on: May 18, 2018, 11:07:12 PM »
Monaghan had a session in Healy park earlier in week

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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #7122 on: May 18, 2018, 11:57:16 PM »
Rewriting history there lads. Sean Cavanagh played for Tyrone u21s in 2002 when they were beaten in the all Ireland by Dublin. Plus he was a corner forward under McKenna and McCrory in 2002 so who converted him to a midfielder and then full forward? Or did Sean just take it upon himself to take those jerseys? As I say you boys love rewriting history to suit your agendas.

Hardly took a genius to move him out to midfield. Sean carried Tyrone over the line in 2008 All Ireland final and Harte then totally scapegoated him in his book after 2009 defeat. No gratitude or humility from Harte

Having had plenty opportunities to watch over this last 15 years the one thing about Sean Cavanagh is when Brian Dooher was on the team life was a lot easier.  Dooher did all the hard work and generally was instrumental in creating space and setting up good chances for Sean on a plate.  Sean relished that and delivered the big scores.  Without Dooher on the team Sean and Tyrone were less effective and just didn't perform on the big occasions.   

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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #7123 on: May 19, 2018, 02:41:24 AM »
Rewriting history there lads. Sean Cavanagh played for Tyrone u21s in 2002 when they were beaten in the all Ireland by Dublin. Plus he was a corner forward under McKenna and McCrory in 2002 so who converted him to a midfielder and then full forward? Or did Sean just take it upon himself to take those jerseys? As I say you boys love rewriting history to suit your agendas.

Hardly took a genius to move him out to midfield. Sean carried Tyrone over the line in 2008 All Ireland final and Harte then totally scapegoated him in his book after 2009 defeat. No gratitude or humility from Harte

Having had plenty opportunities to watch over this last 15 years the one thing about Sean Cavanagh is when Brian Dooher was on the team life was a lot easier.  Dooher did all the hard work and generally was instrumental in creating space and setting up good chances for Sean on a plate.  Sean relished that and delivered the big scores.  Without Dooher on the team Sean and Tyrone were less effective and just didn't perform on the big occasions.

We'll see how effective they are without Cavanagh. One of Tyrone's greatest ever and whether people dislike his behaviour now or not doesn't change what he did on the field.

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« Reply #7124 on: May 19, 2018, 05:19:05 AM »
It always interests me to see how loyal Peter Canavan is to Mickey Harte. Fair play to him for his loyalty a suppose and a think it is something Harte has in his favour in Tyrone having the great one behind him. Although having heard story a few years ago about when Peter decided to call it a day at the 05 All Ireland banquet in a room full of people. Mickey apparently turned to someone at his table, someone in the circle at the time and said about Canavan  "who does that b think he is?"  That's the thanks you get Peter the great.