Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[southtyronegael]

I know I shouldn't take the bait but what do you suggest as a tactical alternative, STG? As far as I can see you're a problem picker. Easy place to be picking holes, harder job to offer constructive alternatives.

hard to know where to start but i think the biggest thing we need to do is get back to basics. forget about systems or tactics for now. use training sessions to get our players kicking the ball straight. what work are we doing on man to man marking? high fielding? how much shooting practice do they do? i believe thats why dublin, mayo and kerry are ahead of the pack. good coaching means they have perfected all the basic skills of the
game which leaves them able to play any system or tactics to suit each game. they are flexible. look at the guys jim gavin, eamon fitzmaurice and stephen rochford have in their backroom teams then look at ours. i think mickey has that much of a power grip on things now that it would be nigh on impossible for us make the improvements we need.

[redzone]

They do all that at their training, Ive seen a few sessions. Sure that's basics
Surely it  was the players fault last year more than hartes. Sure the tactics worked in the previous games, why would we change it for the Dublin game. We couldn't even get a tackle in.
Anyway our big problem is the size of our full forward line. Always juking in behind and not strong enough to win it in front.Look who the teams u mentioned have, we don't have it yet. Would big colly be worth a shot at 14. The ball wouldn't need to be that accurate into him either if he lay on the square. MAybe later. He's needed at midfield thou.  Sludden at c.f is brilliant at running with the ball but either can't or won't look up and hit a long kick pass.

[Thebigdog]

The fact of the matter is Harte like any other run of the mill div 3 reserve manager picks the team 1-13-1 and that's all he has to offer. The players under his stewardship have not improved one bit. Poor coach and an even worse man manager. The country is laughing at Tyrone. Joke!Joke! Joke!

[bigtogs]

How long is Ronan O'Neill been on the county panel?

[Tyrone Gaa]

The fact of the matter is Harte like any other run of the mill div 3 reserve manager picks the team 1-13-1 and that's all he has to offer. The players under his stewardship have not improved one bit. Poor coach and an even worse man manager. The country is laughing at Tyrone. Joke!Joke! Joke!

I'm of the opinion that Mickey has give all he can to Tyrone Gaa and his best days are behind him. But I can't agree with that comment. Harte was a genius of his time, I've no doubt about that, he enhanced what Joe Kernan brought, but as football continues to evolve it's left Mickey behind or Mickey refuses to move with it in his stubbornness.

Tyrone have a talanted group but without a superstar that can drag a team over the line. A new manager might not change that. We have Mickey for 3 years, he won't leave and there is no appetite in the CB to change.

[bigtogs]

The fact of the matter is Harte like any other run of the mill div 3 reserve manager picks the team 1-13-1 and that's all he has to offer. The players under his stewardship have not improved one bit. Poor coach and an even worse man manager. The country is laughing at Tyrone. Joke!Joke! Joke!

I'm of the opinion that Mickey has give all he can to Tyrone Gaa and his best days are behind him. But I can't agree with that comment. Harte was a genius of his time, I've no doubt about that, he enhanced what Joe Kernan brought, but as football continues to evolve it's left Mickey behind or Mickey refuses to move with it in his stubbornness.

Tyrone have a talanted group but without a superstar that can drag a team over the line. A new manager might not change that. We have Mickey for 3 years, he won't leave and there is no appetite in the CB to change.

Who says he will leave after 3 years......

[southtyronegael]

How long is Ronan O'Neill been on the county panel?

not sure how long but i know the longer he is on it the worse he is getting. prob around 2014?

[Tyrone Gaa]

The fact of the matter is Harte like any other run of the mill div 3 reserve manager picks the team 1-13-1 and that's all he has to offer. The players under his stewardship have not improved one bit. Poor coach and an even worse man manager. The country is laughing at Tyrone. Joke!Joke! Joke!

I'm of the opinion that Mickey has give all he can to Tyrone Gaa and his best days are behind him. But I can't agree with that comment. Harte was a genius of his time, I've no doubt about that, he enhanced what Joe Kernan brought, but as football continues to evolve it's left Mickey behind or Mickey refuses to move with it in his stubbornness.

Tyrone have a talanted group but without a superstar that can drag a team over the line. A new manager might not change that. We have Mickey for 3 years, he won't leave and there is no appetite in the CB to change.

Who says he will leave after 3 years......

He might not, that will be decided by the clubs who at this point backed him to do the job. But as this moment in time he has been installed to take Tyrone for 3 years. It will take a brave club to stand up and challenge that to be revoked. It would also require them the support of the majority of clubs which won't happen.

So it might be an idea just to support the team and manager. By the way I thought Mickey should of went but I'm not in a position to change what we have so get behind the team. I commented on the interview because I was worried by his tone and state was the pressure getting to him? Not because I don't support him.

[bigtogs]

Mickey sure let himself down with that interview....

[Tyrone Gaa]

https://www.facebook.com/teamtalkmag.tyrone/videos/1996955360565860/

Teamtalk released their interview with MH. Kevin Kelly is always the nice guy not the man for a tough question.

[longballin]

Would not be in Team Talk's best interest to challenge Harte at all. Noel McGinn was critical on Radio Q101 number of years ago of selection against Galway and Harte said he goes or no access to Tyrone players. He had to go. Can see why TT wouldn't want to rattle that cage

[redzone]

Really longballin, nobody heard that one before. Go on let's hear something different from you. Give me 5 young players to watch out for u20 years of age

[longballin]

Really longballin, nobody heard that one before. Go on let's hear something different from you. Give me 5 young players to watch out for u20 years of age

Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, was criticism on away game Davy Harte marking Declan Meehan I think. He certainly asked that McGinn be removed. It happened whether you want to believe it or not. Google last year's under 17 team 

[southtyronegael]

Really longballin, nobody heard that one before. Go on let's hear something different from you. Give me 5 young players to watch out for u20 years of age

i heard it before. its fact. its why i have a major bugbear with ttm despite their excellent coverage.

[redzone]

What about you Southtyronegael give me 5 young players