Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[oakleafgael]

On an alternative note, have we any inside forwards worth their salt in the county that have the stature to make an impact at the top level?

Coney had the potential but had his chances and looks like he's not going to fulfill it. Don't know the ins and outs with McNulty but he surely has to be worth a shot?

The guys we have there - Brennan, Bradley, McCurry, O'Neill are all slight/small guys and when the opposition pack the defences with strong, physical and athletic players then these guys will struggle to make a mark inside.

Can anyone name me an inside forward in the country with the stature of those guys mentioned above who is currently one of the best in the country? The day of the speedy, skillful, small corner forward is not gone. Today it's about the big/strong guys who can their own ball and are deadly in front of the posts - guys like Geaney, McCarron, McManus, McBrearty, Murphy, Comer, Quinlavin etc. I don't think there is any point blaming Harte for the failure of the likes of McCurry, Brennan, O'Neill etc.

How do the anti-Harte experts propose we solve Harte's failings in tactics and selections? We're all ears, lads.

How McNulty didn't get at least asked is a head scratcher.

Im neutral on the Harte issue but was dragged to Omagh by the young lads to the Mayo game. I only thought watching Derry was depressing.

[teaminamillion]

On an alternative note, have we any inside forwards worth their salt in the county that have the stature to make an impact at the top level?

Coney had the potential but had his chances and looks like he's not going to fulfill it. Don't know the ins and outs with McNulty but he surely has to be worth a shot?

The guys we have there - Brennan, Bradley, McCurry, O'Neill are all slight/small guys and when the opposition pack the defences with strong, physical and athletic players then these guys will struggle to make a mark inside.

Can anyone name me an inside forward in the country with the stature of those guys mentioned above who is currently one of the best in the country? The day of the speedy, skillful, small corner forward is not gone. Today it's about the big/strong guys who can their own ball and are deadly in front of the posts - guys like Geaney, McCarron, McManus, McBrearty, Murphy, Comer, Quinlavin etc. I don't think there is any point blaming Harte for the failure of the likes of McCurry, Brennan, O'Neill etc.

How do the anti-Harte experts propose we solve Harte's failings in tactics and selections? We're all ears, lads.
As someone who has wanted Harte out since 2010 I would make the point that tactics and team selection are always of importance but at this stage the players and supporters in general in Tyrone are suffering from mental fatigue with Harte who has been there nearly 16 years. Time to change this stinking nappy.

[Il Bomber Destro]

On an alternative note, have we any inside forwards worth their salt in the county that have the stature to make an impact at the top level?

Coney had the potential but had his chances and looks like he's not going to fulfill it. Don't know the ins and outs with McNulty but he surely has to be worth a shot?

The guys we have there - Brennan, Bradley, McCurry, O'Neill are all slight/small guys and when the opposition pack the defences with strong, physical and athletic players then these guys will struggle to make a mark inside.

Can anyone name me an inside forward in the country with the stature of those guys mentioned above who is currently one of the best in the country? The day of the speedy, skillful, small corner forward is not gone. Today it's about the big/strong guys who can their own ball and are deadly in front of the posts - guys like Geaney, McCarron, McManus, McBrearty, Murphy, Comer, Quinlavin etc. I don't think there is any point blaming Harte for the failure of the likes of McCurry, Brennan, O'Neill etc.

How do the anti-Harte experts propose we solve Harte's failings in tactics and selections? We're all ears, lads.
As someone who has wanted Harte out since 2010 I would make the point that tactics and team selection are always of importance but at this stage the players and supporters in general in Tyrone are suffering from mental fatigue with Harte who has been there nearly 16 years. Time to change this stinking nappy.

So you want Harte out for the sake of wanting him out?

Be specific, what would you like to see changed and how?

[Scoring Zone]

for the best conditioned, strongest, most well looked after and "professional" Tyrone team imo, there is a very obvious mismatch in results against the top teams into what they are putting in to it, personally it looks to be a few groups in the squad, Harte, Cavanaghs, Donnelly etc. that more often than not empty the tank and seem to have good values and a competitive streak that make you want to watch Tyrone, but personally (and I'm probably showing my age) there is a group of lads that are more interested in hair, fashion, posing on social media, wondering what free boots and gear they can skive and jumping in front of cameras, instead of keeping the head down and figuring out what they represent. Also regarding the lads that have been on a few seasons and have little to no appearances and are still there, need a chat, if ye don't make consistent/ increasing appearances within 3 years, pull the pin and play for your club!!

[tyroneman]

On an alternative note, have we any inside forwards worth their salt in the county that have the stature to make an impact at the top level?

Coney had the potential but had his chances and looks like he's not going to fulfill it. Don't know the ins and outs with McNulty but he surely has to be worth a shot?

The guys we have there - Brennan, Bradley, McCurry, O'Neill are all slight/small guys and when the opposition pack the defences with strong, physical and athletic players then these guys will struggle to make a mark inside.

Can anyone name me an inside forward in the country with the stature of those guys mentioned above who is currently one of the best in the country? The day of the speedy, skillful, small corner forward is not gone. Today it's about the big/strong guys who can their own ball and are deadly in front of the posts - guys like Geaney, McCarron, McManus, McBrearty, Murphy, Comer, Quinlavin etc. I don't think there is any point blaming Harte for the failure of the likes of McCurry, Brennan, O'Neill etc.

How do the anti-Harte experts propose we solve Harte's failings in tactics and selections? We're all ears, lads.

Jamie Clarke, James O'Donoghue.....there you go.....next question

[BennyHarp]

On an alternative note, have we any inside forwards worth their salt in the county that have the stature to make an impact at the top level?

Coney had the potential but had his chances and looks like he's not going to fulfill it. Don't know the ins and outs with McNulty but he surely has to be worth a shot?

The guys we have there - Brennan, Bradley, McCurry, O'Neill are all slight/small guys and when the opposition pack the defences with strong, physical and athletic players then these guys will struggle to make a mark inside.

Can anyone name me an inside forward in the country with the stature of those guys mentioned above who is currently one of the best in the country? The day of the speedy, skillful, small corner forward is not gone. Today it's about the big/strong guys who can their own ball and are deadly in front of the posts - guys like Geaney, McCarron, McManus, McBrearty, Murphy, Comer, Quinlavin etc. I don't think there is any point blaming Harte for the failure of the likes of McCurry, Brennan, O'Neill etc.

How do the anti-Harte experts propose we solve Harte's failings in tactics and selections? We're all ears, lads.

Jamie Clarke, James O'Donoghue.....there you go.....next question

Eh? What are you basing this on?

[tyroneman]

On an alternative note, have we any inside forwards worth their salt in the county that have the stature to make an impact at the top level?

Coney had the potential but had his chances and looks like he's not going to fulfill it. Don't know the ins and outs with McNulty but he surely has to be worth a shot?

The guys we have there - Brennan, Bradley, McCurry, O'Neill are all slight/small guys and when the opposition pack the defences with strong, physical and athletic players then these guys will struggle to make a mark inside.

Can anyone name me an inside forward in the country with the stature of those guys mentioned above who is currently one of the best in the country? The day of the speedy, skillful, small corner forward is not gone. Today it's about the big/strong guys who can their own ball and are deadly in front of the posts - guys like Geaney, McCarron, McManus, McBrearty, Murphy, Comer, Quinlavin etc. I don't think there is any point blaming Harte for the failure of the likes of McCurry, Brennan, O'Neill etc.

How do the anti-Harte experts propose we solve Harte's failings in tactics and selections? We're all ears, lads.

Jamie Clarke, James O'Donoghue.....there you go.....next question

Eh? What are you basing this on?

If you don't think Jamie Clarke is one of the top forwards in the GAA......fair enough, I diagreee however and would love to have him in the Tyrone team. Wins his own ball, skilful, tough, accurate and smart.

If you want to talk up and coming players....how about Danny Cummins...

[teaminamillion]

On an alternative note, have we any inside forwards worth their salt in the county that have the stature to make an impact at the top level?

Coney had the potential but had his chances and looks like he's not going to fulfill it. Don't know the ins and outs with McNulty but he surely has to be worth a shot?

The guys we have there - Brennan, Bradley, McCurry, O'Neill are all slight/small guys and when the opposition pack the defences with strong, physical and athletic players then these guys will struggle to make a mark inside.

Can anyone name me an inside forward in the country with the stature of those guys mentioned above who is currently one of the best in the country? The day of the speedy, skillful, small corner forward is not gone. Today it's about the big/strong guys who can their own ball and are deadly in front of the posts - guys like Geaney, McCarron, McManus, McBrearty, Murphy, Comer, Quinlavin etc. I don't think there is any point blaming Harte for the failure of the likes of McCurry, Brennan, O'Neill etc.

How do the anti-Harte experts propose we solve Harte's failings in tactics and selections? We're all ears, lads.
As someone who has wanted Harte out since 2010 I would make the point that tactics and team selection are always of importance but at this stage the players and supporters in general in Tyrone are suffering from mental fatigue with Harte who has been there nearly 16 years. Time to change this stinking nappy.

So you want Harte out for the sake of wanting him out?

Be specific, what would you like to see changed and how?

a mental fatigue has set in with Harte been there so long. Do you not get that? Lets get rid of the depression first as brolly says and take it from there. Certainly get rid of Mickeys favourites mcrory tiernan McCann. Lets get back to kicking the ball around a bit more and play closer to the opposition goal. Its not complicated.

[southtyronegael]

i cant believe there are  people on here who think gettin a couple of new forwards is gonna solve everything. this county is in crisis and we need to park any talk of players and tactics for now. we need a clear out of management for a start and try to rebuild a team, our football culture and our good name.

[BennyHarp]

On an alternative note, have we any inside forwards worth their salt in the county that have the stature to make an impact at the top level?

Coney had the potential but had his chances and looks like he's not going to fulfill it. Don't know the ins and outs with McNulty but he surely has to be worth a shot?

The guys we have there - Brennan, Bradley, McCurry, O'Neill are all slight/small guys and when the opposition pack the defences with strong, physical and athletic players then these guys will struggle to make a mark inside.

Can anyone name me an inside forward in the country with the stature of those guys mentioned above who is currently one of the best in the country? The day of the speedy, skillful, small corner forward is not gone. Today it's about the big/strong guys who can their own ball and are deadly in front of the posts - guys like Geaney, McCarron, McManus, McBrearty, Murphy, Comer, Quinlavin etc. I don't think there is any point blaming Harte for the failure of the likes of McCurry, Brennan, O'Neill etc.

How do the anti-Harte experts propose we solve Harte's failings in tactics and selections? We're all ears, lads.

Jamie Clarke, James O'Donoghue.....there you go.....next question

Eh? What are you basing this on?

If you don't think Jamie Clarke is one of the top forwards in the GAA......fair enough, I diagreee however and would love to have him in the Tyrone team. Wins his own ball, skilful, tough, accurate and smart.

If you want to talk up and coming players....how about Danny Cummins...

In my view, Jamie Clark is s class player but the absolute shining example of how the modern game swallows up players of his stature. When was the last time you saw him put on a class display in an Armagh jersey in a big championship game? I think that's the point that was being made and most likely part of the reason why Jamie himself got disillusioned with the game and walked away!

[southtyronegael]

there is still a place for the jamie clarkes of the gaa world. they just need a manager to be more imaginitive and play a style that will suit their game. and i guarantee there is more chance of a jamie clarke winning a big game than and aiden mc crory or tiarnan mc cann.

[Il Bomber Destro]

On an alternative note, have we any inside forwards worth their salt in the county that have the stature to make an impact at the top level?

Coney had the potential but had his chances and looks like he's not going to fulfill it. Don't know the ins and outs with McNulty but he surely has to be worth a shot?

The guys we have there - Brennan, Bradley, McCurry, O'Neill are all slight/small guys and when the opposition pack the defences with strong, physical and athletic players then these guys will struggle to make a mark inside.

Can anyone name me an inside forward in the country with the stature of those guys mentioned above who is currently one of the best in the country? The day of the speedy, skillful, small corner forward is not gone. Today it's about the big/strong guys who can their own ball and are deadly in front of the posts - guys like Geaney, McCarron, McManus, McBrearty, Murphy, Comer, Quinlavin etc. I don't think there is any point blaming Harte for the failure of the likes of McCurry, Brennan, O'Neill etc.

How do the anti-Harte experts propose we solve Harte's failings in tactics and selections? We're all ears, lads.

Jamie Clarke, James O'Donoghue.....there you go.....next question

O'Donoghue is not that small or slight and in any case, what's he really done since 2014?

Clarke is a class act but the way the game has evolved renders him ineffective. Guys like McCurry, O'Neill, Bradley etc would have lit up the game 10 years ago, not now though.

[southtyronegael]

well if thats the case mickey has to take responibility for bein left with all these wee small men who cant make it. he discarded bigger lads like coney, niall mc kenna, conan crugan, mc nulty, shea mc guigan, ray mulgrew.... list is endless really. harte is the cause of most of our ills unfortunatley

[Il Bomber Destro]

well if thats the case mickey has to take responibility for bein left with all these wee small men who cant make it. he discarded bigger lads like coney, niall mc kenna, conan crugan, mc nulty, shea mc guigan.... list is endless really. harte is the cause of most of our ills unfortunatley

What's the answer?

Coney and McKenna had their chances but didn't show much. They both turn 27 this year and had 6/7 years on the county panel without ever really looking in place. Coney doesn't even stand out too much for Ardboe these days by all accounts.

When has Grugan ever played in the full forward line? He's a midfielder/half forward and we're well stocked in this area and nothing to say he's better than what's there already.

McNulty certainly deserves a go, I don't know the full story there but very surprised he didn't get a call up this year.

Shea McGuigan isn't a big lad, generally plays as a half forward line and is not better than anything we have in that area.

So have you actually got anything constructive to add or are you just moaning for moaning sake?

[southtyronegael]

how do you mean they got their chance? play an odd mc kenna cup game or come on for 10 mins here or there? in the same way someone on here said conal mc cann is finished for tyrone after gettin 35 mins in a walkover yesterday. ur gonna blame everything and anyone except harte and people like you are as much a part of the problem as mickey is.