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« Reply #2745 on: January 11, 2017, 10:02:57 AM »
speaking hypothetically, if tyrone go off the rails and got relegated in league would there be any way of ousting harte and replacing him before champ starts?

Only if the O'Shea brothers transfer to Tyrone.

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« Reply #2746 on: January 11, 2017, 12:33:46 PM »
A lot of lack of disrespect for MH on this thread, He's our most successful manager and yes he's had great teams but wasnt the team in the 80's considered one of our greatest ever and yes they didnt have any back door and probably would have won All Ireland otherwise but at the end of the day they didnt and MH has guided Tyrone to 3 all Ireland's so that deserves a lot of respect!

Also best wishes to Skeet, long recovery ahead but maybe he will get some game time later in year! McNabb was the most recent to do and came back roughly 6 months later so who knows, he might feature in the 3rd Sunday in September yet!!

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« Reply #2747 on: January 11, 2017, 12:54:08 PM »
A lot of lack of disrespect for MH on this thread, He's our most successful manager and yes he's had great teams but wasnt the team in the 80's considered one of our greatest ever and yes they didnt have any back door and probably would have won All Ireland otherwise but at the end of the day they didnt and MH has guided Tyrone to 3 all Ireland's so that deserves a lot of respect!

Also best wishes to Skeet, long recovery ahead but maybe he will get some game time later in year! McNabb was the most recent to do and came back roughly 6 months later so who knows, he might feature in the 3rd Sunday in September yet!!

I agree with you 100%, but what would you expect from some people in here that never kicked a ball in their life at a high level.

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« Reply #2748 on: January 11, 2017, 01:40:23 PM »
A lot of lack of disrespect for MH on this thread, He's our most successful manager and yes he's had great teams but wasnt the team in the 80's considered one of our greatest ever and yes they didnt have any back door and probably would have won All Ireland otherwise but at the end of the day they didnt and MH has guided Tyrone to 3 all Ireland's so that deserves a lot of respect!

Also best wishes to Skeet, long recovery ahead but maybe he will get some game time later in year! McNabb was the most recent to do and came back roughly 6 months later so who knows, he might feature in the 3rd Sunday in September yet!!

100% agree, as soon as he does eventually leave I can see us struggling for a long time

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« Reply #2749 on: January 11, 2017, 02:40:05 PM »
I think most Tyrone fans on here want Mickey to stay on as he has been the best manager we've ever had and many neutrals rate him as one of the best out there and think we're mad to let him go.
I think he should be given time to develop this new young team as he's got the experience of doing that.
Yes there are aspects of his methods I don't particularly like and wish we played a bit more attacking football but Mickey and his team know a lot more about the current state of football than I do.

I'd be curious if those who want him out can give decent arguments as to why they want him out and who they think would do a better job and why.


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« Reply #2750 on: January 11, 2017, 03:52:33 PM »
Just a quick question fuzzman,
If M.H is entering his 15th year of management and we haven't won an all Ireland in 9 years, how long do you think we should give for developing players ?
I'm trying to decide on a really meaningful message..

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« Reply #2751 on: January 11, 2017, 04:11:21 PM »
If it was up to me I'd give him 3 more years to develop this new team as we've came through a long period of change and are hopefully coming out the other side with a new energetic young team. Whereas teams like Donegal and Mayo are seeing a lot of their older players reaching the age to retire.

I was reading that we only have 5 players from 2010 team; Sean, Colm, Justy, Petey and McCarron.

Do you think Leenie he should retire after 2017 if we don't win Sam?



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« Reply #2752 on: January 11, 2017, 04:23:38 PM »
If it was up to me I'd give him 3 more years to develop this new team as we've came through a long period of change and are hopefully coming out the other side with a new energetic young team. Whereas teams like Donegal and Mayo are seeing a lot of their older players reaching the age to retire.

I was reading that we only have 5 players from 2010 team; Sean, Colm, Justy, Petey and McCarron.

Do you think Leenie he should retire after 2017 if we don't win Sam?

he should stick to football and leave the other stuff to clergy men. And use a few forwards!

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« Reply #2753 on: January 11, 2017, 04:33:17 PM »
If it was up to me I'd give him 3 more years to develop this new team as we've came through a long period of change and are hopefully coming out the other side with a new energetic young team. Whereas teams like Donegal and Mayo are seeing a lot of their older players reaching the age to retire.

I was reading that we only have 5 players from 2010 team; Sean, Colm, Justy, Petey and McCarron.

Do you think Leenie he should retire after 2017 if we don't win Sam?

he should stick to football and leave the other stuff to clergy men. And use a few forwards!


Your first point is nothing to do with management or football. Your second point shows your absolute lack of knowledge of the modern or game or quality of current tyrone panel.

I still think he needs a semi final and a performance this year to retain the job.

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« Reply #2754 on: January 11, 2017, 05:31:10 PM »
If it was up to me I'd give him 3 more years to develop this new team as we've came through a long period of change and are hopefully coming out the other side with a new energetic young team. Whereas teams like Donegal and Mayo are seeing a lot of their older players reaching the age to retire.

I was reading that we only have 5 players from 2010 team; Sean, Colm, Justy, Petey and McCarron.

Do you think Leenie he should retire after 2017 if we don't win Sam?

he should stick to football and leave the other stuff to clergy men. And use a few forwards!


Your first point is nothing to do with management or football. Your second point shows your absolute lack of knowledge of the modern or game or quality of current tyrone panel.

I still think he needs a semi final and a performance this year to retain the job.

I'd agree with this.

The last two seasons have brought a bit of expectancy so we will need to kick on this year. We were a bit unlucky with how the QF draw went for us, I always think the team coming through the back door have a slight advantage over the provincial winner at this stage. I think our QF record is much better coming through the qualifier route than it is the Provincial route and even at that it was small margins that decided it.

QF Provinicial route is

P6 W2 L4

QF qualifer route is

P5 W4 L1

We just happened to draw by far the toughest team we could have and lost on the narrowest of margins this year but the expectancy will be an All Ireland semi-final this year and I think we will need to be competitive with Dublin up until the last kick of the game.

Kerry have got some very handy QF draws in recent years, they generally have a lot of bother in this round if they get a pretty decent side pitted against them.

2013 - Cavan
2014 - Galway
2015 - Kildare
2016 - Clare

Hopefully we'll get a bit of luck this year in a decent QF draw should we get there.
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« Reply #2755 on: January 11, 2017, 06:10:02 PM »
Mickey Harte's biggest failure was convincing some of us that winning All Irelands is easy.

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« Reply #2756 on: January 11, 2017, 08:26:57 PM »
If it was up to me I'd give him 3 more years to develop this new team as we've came through a long period of change and are hopefully coming out the other side with a new energetic young team. Whereas teams like Donegal and Mayo are seeing a lot of their older players reaching the age to retire.

I was reading that we only have 5 players from 2010 team; Sean, Colm, Justy, Petey and McCarron.

Do you think Leenie he should retire after 2017 if we don't win Sam?

he should stick to football and leave the other stuff to clergy men. And use a few forwards!


Your first point is nothing to do with management or football. Your second point shows your absolute lack of knowledge of the modern or game or quality of current tyrone panel.

I still think he needs a semi final and a performance this year to retain the job.

agree on first point if I want lectured about morals I dont need to hear them from a GAA manager- as for modern game, it is stifling that Tyrone team and as I said before when Sean goes... it'll be as far away as ever

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« Reply #2757 on: January 11, 2017, 08:37:01 PM »
looks like i stirred up some interesting conversation on here.lol

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« Reply #2758 on: January 11, 2017, 09:36:17 PM »
Mickey is having a chat show on 25 jan in Omagh.Wonder will he reveal anything about his future plans.

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« Reply #2759 on: January 11, 2017, 09:45:00 PM »
a chatshow for what? who cares what his plans are. the people of tyrone should decide what happens, not mickey harte.