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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #615 on: November 10, 2014, 11:54:19 PM »
Any word of of trials taking place or who is at them? Could do with finding a few defenders, a midfield option or 2 and and a couple of half forwards forward for starters. Would be good to see mcmahons staying fit and making a big push next year. Justy looks in better shape than has for years. Will also be good to see Clarke back. In terms of players for trials I assume some of the following will be involved:

Mccarron
Swift (if staying home)
Gorman
Mark Bradley (looks to have bulked out a we bit but still very small, could even be worth a go at 11 anyway)
Meyler
Hugh Gallagher
Mcnulty
Walsh
Niall sludden
Burns (how's he progressing?)

Many others out there worth a go? Tierney from the Omagh games looks a real option at half back.

I 'believe' Cathal McShane from our Club is up training with the senior squad.
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« Reply #616 on: November 11, 2014, 12:51:26 PM »
Gaelic Players Association Releases

Statement on behalf of Cathal McCarron, Tyrone

Cathal McCarron and the Tyrone senior football management would like to inform the national media that Cathal is currently working on his personal fitness under a strength and conditioning coach with a view to returning to full training with the Tyrone squad when they regroup next month.

While conveying this positive news we would like to point out that Cathal will not be engaging with media in any capacity for the foreseeable future.

On behalf of Cathal, the Tyrone squad and management, the GPA would kindly ask you to respect Cathalís need to focus on his recovery and his return to football.


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« Reply #618 on: November 11, 2014, 01:52:50 PM »
I think its more to do with the players rather than Harte that things have regressed. At the end of the day how many chances has a lot of these fringe players to get to they put down two good performances together. Suffocate their development?? The players aren't making it easy for him, no consistency whatsoever! Yes he probably makes it worse by changing the team regularly but boys like Kyle Coney and the forwards in general continue to dissapoint time after time and show no signs of developing any kind of consistency. They simply can't put two good games back to back. The group of the 00's was special, couldn't name 3 of the players under 28 who have the character of the men in them teams.



In fairness to the forwards ( especially the full forward line ) it must be nightmare to play in.

Handpass central- goalkeeper to full back out to corner back- handpass back to full back- out to wing half back- back into centre- back out to wing half back- hand pass to wnghalf forward- hand pass to centre- another hand pass across the line- then all the way across the 40 yard line if not backwards.

By this stage the oppisition have set up camp.  Last year more shooting oppurtunities were created for Mattie Donnelly and half backs than were for the full forward line.

Contrast that to 10 years ago- the ball played fast and direct and ended with a shooter-  the ball broken or possession gained and a fast counter attack with decent balls into space for the full forward line. Aprox 4 or 5 men in possession moving the ball 100 yds at pace compared to now with 10 men having hands on the ball and moving it 40-50 yards slowly.

Its hard enough for some of these young fellas to make the breakthrough at senior county level without having to play in a set up that is designed to hold possession.

These young players take some of the responsibility but ultimatley the style that has developed is instructed from the sideline !

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« Reply #619 on: November 11, 2014, 02:09:27 PM »
Kieran McGeary of Pomeroy should get a look. Playing CHF in a St Mary's sigerson team that has beaten UUJ, DCU and QUB in Ryan Cup and from reports he is playing very well. Perhaps wait to see how he gets on with Tyrone U21's first though.

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« Reply #620 on: November 11, 2014, 10:45:52 PM »
did i hear the mcnulty from dungannon and dwyane quinn from clonoe have been asked to join the training panel. like both of them physical and direct. badly needed physicality weve turned into soft lateral handpassing jessies.

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« Reply #621 on: November 12, 2014, 02:42:06 PM »
John McCullagh from Greencastle also asked to attend a trial.

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« Reply #622 on: November 14, 2014, 12:07:41 PM »
O'Neill and Penrose call it a day

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/gaelic-games/30050584

2 great servants for Tyrone. O'Neill especially was a joy to watch when injury free, scored some fantastic points down the years.

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« Reply #623 on: November 14, 2014, 01:45:43 PM »
O'Neill and Penrose call it a day

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/gaelic-games/30050584

2 great servants for Tyrone. O'Neill especially was a joy to watch when injury free, scored some fantastic points down the years.

Big loss for Tyrone, however there is a real opportunity for some of the young lads coming into the panel. And no more excuses for some of the existing fringe players of recent years too.

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« Reply #624 on: November 14, 2014, 03:03:48 PM »
Great players in their day, however they didnt play much last year and maybe the decision was made for them.  Exceptional talents and god only knows how good O'Neill could have been if he managed to stay injury free.  Stevie was one of the greatest
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« Reply #625 on: November 14, 2014, 04:07:37 PM »
Watching Stevie take 10 points of Francie was the highlight for me although he scored some great goals over the years.
Always annoyed me how Refs would tend to make exceptions for great players like Stevie rather than just giving the free.
However I suppose that did come back to serve us well n 2005 when we got that last free

Was this the moment or was it a different one



Some of the points he kicked in Croker from crazy angles was a joy to behold



Anyone got his total score tally?

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« Reply #626 on: November 14, 2014, 04:21:20 PM »
His points v Dublin under the lights in Croke park that night was something special. A fit Stephen O'Neill was some addition to the Tyrone cause and it's just a pity that injury robbed us of his services more often than not.

A ball winner and finisher, strong as an Ox and bravery to match.
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« Reply #627 on: November 14, 2014, 04:31:41 PM »


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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #628 on: November 14, 2014, 10:12:52 PM »
Watching Stevie take 10 points of Francie was the highlight for me although he scored some great goals over the years.
Always annoyed me how Refs would tend to make exceptions for great players like Stevie rather than just giving the free.
However I suppose that did come back to serve us well n 2005 when we got that last free

Was this the moment or was it a different one



Some of the points he kicked in Croker from crazy angles was a joy to behold



Anyone got his total score tally?
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« Reply #629 on: November 15, 2014, 03:58:10 PM »
The time was probably right for both players to go. They've given a lot to Tyrone but given age and miles on clock its probably unrealistic to expect them to get back to their best. Stevie O'Neill at his peak was a top top player and an absolute joy to watch. It's a shame his career was blighted so match by injury as we didn't get to see him at his best near often enough. Penrose gave a lot to the cause too and had a good impact on the 2008 All Ireland winning year as well as the minor title in 01.

On a different note will Cathal McCarron be able to play for Tyrone in the championship next year before taking part in the club championship? Does that rule only apply when you leave your native county? If it did apply to him he'll definitely hope for an early club championship next year.

Will be a nice way to start 2015 with a trip to an improving Armagh team on the first day out. Sounds as if work is already been put in for next year and its going to be needed. Definitely a big year for Harte. Considerable improvement needed and if doesnt happen his position will no doubt be under threat. But I think he deserves another go at it and hopefully can prove the doubters wrong - you don't win 6 All Irelands, multiple ulsters, ulster club championships, county championships etc by being a bad manager that some have painted on here and it certainly wasn't with one group of players as some try to make out. People can point to 3 or 4 bad years recently but he had a number of bad years with the minors before getting it right.