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« Reply #2760 on: January 12, 2017, 08:25:06 AM »
Mickey Harte deserves serious credit for those 3 all-Irelands, we wouldn't have won an all-Ireland without him, I do fear now that we wont win another AI with him in charge!!!

He was afforded the opportunity to work with the same group of players he guided from minor and U21, at some point the successful U21 management have to be given that opportunity.

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« Reply #2761 on: January 12, 2017, 10:19:24 AM »
Mickey Harte deserves serious credit for those 3 all-Irelands, we wouldn't have won an all-Ireland without him, I do fear now that we wont win another AI with him in charge!!!

He was afforded the opportunity to work with the same group of players he guided from minor and U21, at some point the successful U21 management have to be given that opportunity.

Are you sure about that? The brand of football they have our u21's playing is awful. Apparently they played Pomeroy seniors during the week and played with 15 men in their own 45 when not in possession of the ball. Do we really want to see the likes of Lee Brennan having to defend on his own 21?

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« Reply #2762 on: January 12, 2017, 10:34:47 AM »
Mickey Harte deserves serious credit for those 3 all-Irelands, we wouldn't have won an all-Ireland without him, I do fear now that we wont win another AI with him in charge!!!

He was afforded the opportunity to work with the same group of players he guided from minor and U21, at some point the successful U21 management have to be given that opportunity.

Are you sure about that? The brand of football they have our u21's playing is awful. Apparently they played Pomeroy seniors during the week and played with 15 men in their own 45 when not in possession of the ball. Do we really want to see the likes of Lee Brennan having to defend on his own 21?

No difference to the way our senior team plays then.

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« Reply #2763 on: January 12, 2017, 11:24:34 AM »
Mickey Harte deserves serious credit for those 3 all-Irelands, we wouldn't have won an all-Ireland without him, I do fear now that we wont win another AI with him in charge!!!

He was afforded the opportunity to work with the same group of players he guided from minor and U21, at some point the successful U21 management have to be given that opportunity.

Are you sure about that? The brand of football they have our u21's playing is awful. Apparently they played Pomeroy seniors during the week and played with 15 men in their own 45 when not in possession of the ball. Do we really want to see the likes of Lee Brennan having to defend on his own 21?

No difference to the way our senior team plays then.

At least our senior team plays with two men up front most of the time. I for one do not want Fergal Logan or Brian Dooher anywhere near the senior team playing this brand of football. We need a man that's going to start playing a more attacking brand of football.

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« Reply #2764 on: January 12, 2017, 11:30:49 AM »
In the last few years we have seen a few managers come out and say they will not be playing that defensive blanket style game and will line up 15 v 15 and go for it. Every time they were found wanting and got sucked in and destroyed on the break.
Even the Dubs have had to adapt to it as they found out v Donegal in 2014 what happens if you don't play in a similar way. Kerry and maybe to a lesser extent Mayo have both accepted you got to fight fire with fire so I can't see the next Tyrone manager trying to go back to the way the game used to be played unless there are rule changes.

Saying that though I think we do go too far bringing 14 if not 15 men into our own half and as I've said before I'd be happy to play with 3 forwards up all game who can win their own ball and keep possession until the cavalry arrive.

Leenie, I'm still waiting on your answer.

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« Reply #2765 on: January 12, 2017, 12:03:06 PM »
Dublin played 4 in their full forward line on Donegal kick outs this year!

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« Reply #2766 on: January 12, 2017, 12:52:36 PM »
Mickey Harte deserves serious credit for those 3 all-Irelands, we wouldn't have won an all-Ireland without him, I do fear now that we wont win another AI with him in charge!!!

He was afforded the opportunity to work with the same group of players he guided from minor and U21, at some point the successful U21 management have to be given that opportunity.

Are you sure about that? The brand of football they have our u21's playing is awful. Apparently they played Pomeroy seniors during the week and played with 15 men in their own 45 when not in possession of the ball. Do we really want to see the likes of Lee Brennan having to defend on his own 21?

No difference to the way our senior team plays then.

At least our senior team plays with two men up front most of the time. I for one do not want Fergal Logan or Brian Dooher anywhere near the senior team playing this brand of football. We need a man that's going to start playing a more attacking brand of football.
This is not true. In the donegal and mayo games only ronan o neill played close to the opposition goals. Skeet played all over the place and everyone else dropped behind the ball when tyrone did not have possession

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« Reply #2767 on: January 12, 2017, 01:17:27 PM »
Mickey Harte deserves serious credit for those 3 all-Irelands, we wouldn't have won an all-Ireland without him, I do fear now that we wont win another AI with him in charge!!!

He was afforded the opportunity to work with the same group of players he guided from minor and U21, at some point the successful U21 management have to be given that opportunity.

Are you sure about that? The brand of football they have our u21's playing is awful. Apparently they played Pomeroy seniors during the week and played with 15 men in their own 45 when not in possession of the ball. Do we really want to see the likes of Lee Brennan having to defend on his own 21?

No difference to the way our senior team plays then.

At least our senior team plays with two men up front most of the time. I for one do not want Fergal Logan or Brian Dooher anywhere near the senior team playing this brand of football. We need a man that's going to start playing a more attacking brand of football.
This is not true. In the donegal and mayo games only ronan o neill played close to the opposition goals. Skeet played all over the place and everyone else dropped behind the ball when tyrone did not have possession

Your missing the point, logan and dooher has the 15 men inside their own 45 when not in possession of the ball. Micky Harte hasn't sunk to them depths yet.

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« Reply #2768 on: January 12, 2017, 01:37:12 PM »
Mickey Harte deserves serious credit for those 3 all-Irelands, we wouldn't have won an all-Ireland without him, I do fear now that we wont win another AI with him in charge!!!

He was afforded the opportunity to work with the same group of players he guided from minor and U21, at some point the successful U21 management have to be given that opportunity.

Are you sure about that? The brand of football they have our u21's playing is awful. Apparently they played Pomeroy seniors during the week and played with 15 men in their own 45 when not in possession of the ball. Do we really want to see the likes of Lee Brennan having to defend on his own 21?

No difference to the way our senior team plays then.

At least our senior team plays with two men up front most of the time. I for one do not want Fergal Logan or Brian Dooher anywhere near the senior team playing this brand of football. We need a man that's going to start playing a more attacking brand of football.
This is not true. In the donegal and mayo games only ronan o neill played close to the opposition goals. Skeet played all over the place and everyone else dropped behind the ball when tyrone did not have possession

Your missing the point, logan and dooher has the 15 men inside their own 45 when not in possession of the ball. Micky Harte hasn't sunk to them depths yet.
My point has nothing to do with logan and dooher. My point is that what you were saying isn't true

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« Reply #2769 on: January 12, 2017, 01:41:03 PM »
I'll be honest fuzzman , I'm undecided, I haven't enjoyed county football for a while now, I still support and attend games but prefer to be more focused on my club. I try not to comment but enjoy seeing the various debates on here, and see points from all sides..
I'm trying to decide on a really meaningful message..

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« Reply #2770 on: January 12, 2017, 01:59:57 PM »
Mickey Harte deserves serious credit for those 3 all-Irelands, we wouldn't have won an all-Ireland without him, I do fear now that we wont win another AI with him in charge!!!

He was afforded the opportunity to work with the same group of players he guided from minor and U21, at some point the successful U21 management have to be given that opportunity.

Are you sure about that? The brand of football they have our u21's playing is awful. Apparently they played Pomeroy seniors during the week and played with 15 men in their own 45 when not in possession of the ball. Do we really want to see the likes of Lee Brennan having to defend on his own 21?

No difference to the way our senior team plays then.

At least our senior team plays with two men up front most of the time. I for one do not want Fergal Logan or Brian Dooher anywhere near the senior team playing this brand of football. We need a man that's going to start playing a more attacking brand of football.
This is not true. In the donegal and mayo games only ronan o neill played close to the opposition goals. Skeet played all over the place and everyone else dropped behind the ball when tyrone did not have possession

Your missing the point, logan and dooher has the 15 men inside their own 45 when not in possession of the ball. Micky Harte hasn't sunk to them depths yet.
My point has nothing to do with logan and dooher. My point is that what you were saying isn't true

How the hells it not true, our senior doesn't play with 15 men behind the ball in their own 45 when not in possession, whereas our u21 team does. What don't you get you clown?

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« Reply #2771 on: January 12, 2017, 02:28:49 PM »
I know what you mean Leenie. After the Mayo game last year I felt very disillusioned about the whole thing. I could understand how Mickey sent his team out to play v Donegal in the Ulster final but I thought the last 10 mins of that game would have taught them that if you can be brave and remove the shackles a bit then you have a better chance of winning. However I thought we were too scared to lose v Mayo and so never really showed our hand, even though we had several chances that we kicked wide.

It will be interesting to see how McGleenan does with Cavan as he has said he doesn't want to play a defensive style game but will he keep to his word when push comes to shove.

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« Reply #2772 on: January 12, 2017, 02:51:18 PM »
[quote author=gaafan2


At least our senior team plays with two men up front most of the time. I for one do not want Fergal Logan or Brian Dooher anywhere near the senior team playing this brand of football. We need a man that's going to start playing a more attacking brand of football.
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Mickeys mafiat are worse than the dup. Your statement above is not true. Against the better teams we play one forward in the opposition half for large parts of the game.
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« Reply #2773 on: January 12, 2017, 02:58:27 PM »
Someone on here said Logan and Dooher were mentioned for the Omagh job. I have also heard they are in line. Would this be possible, managing County U-21 and a Club team??

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« Reply #2774 on: January 12, 2017, 03:00:48 PM »
It might be difficult but season could be over for u 21s 10 march.