Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[sam03/05]

Delighted with their first year yes as they won an All Ireland, it could be another 10-15 years before one comes along again, no matter who's in charge. So we will be forever indebted to them for that.
Obviously not happy with recent performances, but it's out of order to say they have no clue, given what they have won at senior and u21 and that Dooher has had a hand in every AI title the county has ever won as a leader of the team on and off the field. I think the comment 'not a clue' is out of order, in that respect.

I would say they got the best out of a group of players that peaked from 2018 AI final to 2021 and that a rebuilding process will have to take place. Unfortunately for them there is not really a group of 24 year olds ready to go. Most players seem to peak now around 28 with the lifestyle needed. Unfortunately we have quite a few 30 year olds. The talent coming through is a bit younger - around 19-21 year olds - so we may have to suffer a few barren years. But coming on a message board and having a hissy fit at newer players and management  does not help.

[rrhf]

Delighted with their first year yes as they won an All Ireland, it could be another 10-15 years before one comes along again, no matter who's in charge. So we will be forever indebted to them for that.
Obviously not happy with recent performances, but it's out of order to say they have no clue, given what they have won at senior and u21 and that Dooher has had a hand in every AI title the county has ever won as a leader of the team on and off the field. I think the comment 'not a clue' is out of order, in that respect.

I would say they got the best out of a group of players that peaked from 2018 AI final to 2021 and that a rebuilding process will have to take place. Unfortunately for them there is not really a group of 24 year olds ready to go. Most players seem to peak now around 28 with the lifestyle needed. Unfortunately we have quite a few 30 year olds. The talent coming through is a bit younger - around 19-21 year olds - so we may have to suffer a few barren years. But coming on a message board and having a hissy fit at newer players and management  does not help.

100 percent agree... I'm still basking from 2021. It was unexpected and immense. I'm worried about players performances etc but I also think they get too much flak and can understand management loyalty to guys who have been superb servants and are perhaps on the way down a little. What they have given us deserves time to work  things out .

[An Watcher]

Listening to mcginley and whelans podcast earlier and they both agreed that derrys strategy could catch them out yet.  Still early in the year and they're clearly going hell for leather.  Am i clutching at straws or coukd Tyrone be holding back til the business end of the championship? 

[tyrone08]

Think you are clutching lol. They have lost too many quality players without replacing them. Core of the team is approaching retirement and they don't seem to have a game plan.

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Tyrone's downfall can all be traced back to Ronan O'Neill's whingefest in the paper. Everyone felt they should be starting rather than doing something to deserve a jersey. He was the first cancer and it just spread from there.

[tyrone08]

Tyrone's downfall can all be traced back to Ronan O'Neill's whingefest in the paper. Everyone felt they should be starting rather than doing something to deserve a jersey. He was the first cancer and it just spread from there.

Of all the players to whinge he has nothing to complain about. He was given far more chances than say Lee brennan. There does seem to be a softness to the players in tyrone these days unlike in the 2000s. Lads now are too interested in their tight tops and hair rather than knuckling down and fighting for a place.

[God14]

Tyrone's downfall can all be traced back to Ronan O'Neill's whingefest in the paper. Everyone felt they should be starting rather than doing something to deserve a jersey. He was the first cancer and it just spread from there.

Of all the players to whinge he has nothing to complain about. He was given far more chances than say Lee brennan. There does seem to be a softness to the players in tyrone these days unlike in the 2000s. Lads now are too interested in their tight tops and hair rather than knuckling down and fighting for a place.

Completely agree. We are a characterless side these days.
Bland.

[tyroneStatto]

Tyrone's downfall can all be traced back to Ronan O'Neill's whingefest in the paper. Everyone felt they should be starting rather than doing something to deserve a jersey. He was the first cancer and it just spread from there.

I'd agree with that.

His conditioning for a county player for several years was poor and he got more chances than he should have.

[HokeyPokey]

I'm not sure how Ronan O'Neill supposedly whinging after leaving after winning the championship is the reason for Tyrone's post-sam struggles?

[WT4E]

Tyrone's downfall can all be traced back to Ronan O'Neill's whingefest in the paper. Everyone felt they should be starting rather than doing something to deserve a jersey. He was the first cancer and it just spread from there.

Other key indicators also include coffee shops for the soul and that Alchemist place that things Campsie is South Dublin. Can you imagine Ricey running a coffee shop. Be something like the one in Albert Square and he'd likely refuse to serve u coffee and spit in your tea.

[Lamh Dhearg Alba]

Listening to mcginley and whelans podcast earlier and they both agreed that derrys strategy could catch them out yet.  Still early in the year and they're clearly going hell for leather.  Am i clutching at straws or coukd Tyrone be holding back til the business end of the championship?

It's hard to see many grounds for such optimism I'm afraid. There are times when you can understand a team building slowly through the league with the intention of then really going through the gears come the Championship. I think with the new season that kind of approach won't be so common, but more to the point for us, after how poor last season was we really needed a decent league campaign to show we were over the disappointing title defence and returning to form. Even if we were aiming to build slowly too, you'd want signs that things were going in the right direction and we were working on specific shapes and ideas. The most concerning thing has been the manner of the defeats. The hard work was done against the Rossies and Galway with Tyrone doing well against the wind then reeling them in early in the second half, only to show a lack of composure with great chances then cave in entirely. We also competed well against Mayo - as a contest it was far closer than the Mayo Kerry match - but again lack of composure and leadership at key points saw us well beaten. The talent is there but the team lacks an identity and backbone. Hard to see that coming together over the next couple of months. That said, Armagh and Donegal looked very poor tonight and the sight of the Kerry shirts tomorrow might be just what we need . But I doubt it.

The management team will forever be legends for 2021 but for whatever reason they have struggled badly since. You'd need to see a drastic improvement the next few months for them to be getting another term

[HokeyPokey]

The ghost of Ronan O'Neill has finally been banished!

[TyroneClubs]

Heart. Guts. Determination. Fight. And a bit of luck.

Great to see a bit of bite within the team again

[square_ball]

I think that's a fair summary. I can see us trying to go fairly defensive this week against Kerry. If we are shipping 3 goals to Roscommon and 4 goals to Mayo with our current approach (whatever that is) then its probably the sensible option.

We've beaten Kerry is our last 3 games - going to stick my neck on the line and go for a Tyrone win by 2 points on Sunday. . . and then probably beat by Monaghan and Armagh!

I was a point out. Great performance. I thought after the goal after a minute here we go again but fair play to them they put in a serious shift. McKernan and Donnelly superb. Hampsey probably had his best game since 2021 with the likes of Burns helping his out with Clifford.

[Lamh Dhearg Alba]

The sight of the Kerry shirts did help . Mattie brought the leadership with others like Burns and McKernan also stepping up. Real team effort though and well deserved. I feared the worst with Kerry's second goal with the concern it waa going to follow the pattern of Roscommon and Galway. Fair play, they kept their heads.

Lot to do but it is something to build on.