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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #12540 on: October 30, 2020, 02:14:57 PM »
And another point, if we had spent less time on bloody zonal defensive crap then our players would know how to tackle and man mark. A few guys hid behind Colm cavanagh this last few years and now he is gone they finding the going tough

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« Reply #12541 on: October 30, 2020, 02:17:47 PM »
Angelo, we reap what we sow with regards referees. The whole rte boycott and carry on this last 10 years has turned the gaa and by extension, referees against us. Think of all the big games in croke park this last decade and every 50/50 decision has went against us. Thing is, the other counties love to see us getting shit on as we are hated by most people at this stage.

We reap what we sow?

In what way, because we don't play ball with a bunch of wankers at RTE? f**k them is what I say, I think we should be a lot more on the front foot in calling out the bias. I have to say Sean Cavanagh has been an absolute embarrassment to Tyrone since he has stepped into his media role.

Unfortunately I see it as a free state thing, we don't get a fair crack down there, won't or probably ever will. Armagh were at the top of their game too in the early 00s and were denigrated in a similar manner as a macho, thuggish team to run down their accomplishments. The southern narrative is that a northern team could never do it by playing fair or in the right style. That's exactly how they want it portrayed.

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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #12542 on: October 30, 2020, 02:19:00 PM »
And another point, if we had spent less time on bloody zonal defensive crap then our players would know how to tackle and man mark. A few guys hid behind Colm cavanagh this last few years and now he is gone they finding the going tough

There is certainly truth to this. We look like a team currently caught between two stools and you can see that from the Donegal game where players were abdicating tracking runners through.
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« Reply #12543 on: October 30, 2020, 06:35:04 PM »
I think it's the standard of refereeing in general.

I watched the Armagh Roscommon game there a couple of weeks ago. We all know Armagh are undisciplined in their tackling but some of the frees Gough was giving Roscommon were just beyond a joke. I'd be worried if I was an intercounty defender these days, I'd be afraid to make a tackle because some referees treat the game like it was netball, that if you lay a hand on a defender that doesn't get the ball it's a free and some teams are smart enough to play on a narrative and to play a referee and that's what I saw in that game.

What is incredibly frustrating for players is when a referee calls something up one end of the pitch and fails to be consistent down at the other.

There's always this narrative pushed about Ulster teams being cynical, aggressive and dirty and when you look across the board it's completely unfounded. You look at the treatment Peter Harte got against Kerry last year, under the referee's nose in an All Ireland semi final for 70 minutes and barely a dicky bird about it. You can guarantee if Tyrone blackguarded Clifford like that in the same game there would be uproar. That narrative will eventually play on referees.

McGeary has had an unfair reputation built about him when it comes to tackling and giving fouls away, for me he is probably the most technically proficient tackler in the Tyrone team. He can be a bit overzealous at times and needs to realise he can't win every ball but he's been very, very unfairly treated by match officials of late.
Just curious but why do you think referees have decided to be sore on mc Geary in particular if he is as you say our most technically proficient tackler.
I agree with bigtogs btw

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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #12544 on: October 30, 2020, 08:16:32 PM »
I think it's the standard of refereeing in general.

I watched the Armagh Roscommon game there a couple of weeks ago. We all know Armagh are undisciplined in their tackling but some of the frees Gough was giving Roscommon were just beyond a joke. I'd be worried if I was an intercounty defender these days, I'd be afraid to make a tackle because some referees treat the game like it was netball, that if you lay a hand on a defender that doesn't get the ball it's a free and some teams are smart enough to play on a narrative and to play a referee and that's what I saw in that game.

What is incredibly frustrating for players is when a referee calls something up one end of the pitch and fails to be consistent down at the other.

There's always this narrative pushed about Ulster teams being cynical, aggressive and dirty and when you look across the board it's completely unfounded. You look at the treatment Peter Harte got against Kerry last year, under the referee's nose in an All Ireland semi final for 70 minutes and barely a dicky bird about it. You can guarantee if Tyrone blackguarded Clifford like that in the same game there would be uproar. That narrative will eventually play on referees.

McGeary has had an unfair reputation built about him when it comes to tackling and giving fouls away, for me he is probably the most technically proficient tackler in the Tyrone team. He can be a bit overzealous at times and needs to realise he can't win every ball but he's been very, very unfairly treated by match officials of late.
Just curious but why do you think referees have decided to be sore on mc Geary in particular if he is as you say our most technically proficient tackler.
I agree with bigtogs btw

Because he's an aggressive player who makes tackles.

Just look back at the game at the weekend, he has two frees blown against him in the scoring area where his tackling has been textbook, he's done everything a coach will tell you, make yourself big and get your body in the way. One of them has Coen engineering a free by grabbing McGeary's arm and going to ground dragging McGeary over with him, the other has O'Donoghue running into his outstretched arm and flopping to the ground clutching his face when McGeary arm was across his chest where he had the ball.

I'd be afraid to make a tackle these days if I was defender with some of the refereeing I've seen out there. There seems to be impunity for forwards to foul defenders coming out with the ball at the back but if a defender puts a hand on a forward it seems to be blown up.

It's not netball at the end of the day and some of the refereeing I saw in the last two weeks, not just in the Tyrone games, has been farcical.



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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #12545 on: October 30, 2020, 08:51:54 PM »
Late walk away from the Tyrone panel?

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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #12546 on: October 30, 2020, 09:42:12 PM »
Late walk away from the Tyrone panel?

Who?

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« Reply #12547 on: October 31, 2020, 09:18:42 AM »
Late walk away from the Tyrone panel?

What it's the point in posts like this if you aren't prepared to say the name? Do you just like the idea of letting everyone know that you have a secret or what?

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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #12548 on: October 31, 2020, 09:46:17 AM »
Late walk away from the Tyrone panel?

Pub talker!

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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #12549 on: October 31, 2020, 09:51:46 AM »
If true it should be a private matter between player and management.

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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #12550 on: October 31, 2020, 11:35:30 AM »

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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #12551 on: October 31, 2020, 11:36:21 AM »
Late walk away from the Tyrone panel?
I have become aware of this also. Huge pity, talent in Abundance

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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #12552 on: October 31, 2020, 11:37:06 AM »
Late walk away from the Tyrone panel?

What it's the point in posts like this if you aren't prepared to say the name? Do you just like the idea of letting everyone know that you have a secret or what?

Indeed I do, I like holding all the cards

southtyronegael

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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #12553 on: October 31, 2020, 11:40:15 AM »
Guys just spit it out.

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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #12554 on: October 31, 2020, 11:45:45 AM »
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