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« Reply #12270 on: September 24, 2020, 10:28:39 AM »
O'Donnell shouldnt be involved in a county squad, not near good enough.
Hardly makes an influence in a club game ffs

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« Reply #12271 on: September 24, 2020, 10:34:39 AM »
Thatís not a bad shout on Coney out around the middle but I think that would be too adventurous for Harte. Itíll be Ben McDonnell as Angelo says and Iíd guess at Kennedy to partner him. We are very very light in that area. Iíve always been a fan of McClure but he seems to be out of favour before the season was halted. Maybe McKenna will be given a go in the middle in these upcoming league games.

Coney is far too lackadaisical for midfield at county level, and lacks size in comparison to other intercounty midfielders. Imagine him competing against Hugh McFadden or Jason McGee against Donegal in the first round. McClure and Conall McCann have the same problem.

Also bear in mind that this is all going to be played in bad weather and on heavy pitches and we'll be cutting our cloth accordingly. Richie Donnelly and Kennedy are our best bet if fit. Ordinarily my concern with them is that they would struggle with the pace of the game in the big spaces of Croke Park on a summers day, but that will not be an issue this time.

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« Reply #12272 on: September 24, 2020, 11:29:36 AM »
Thatís not a bad shout on Coney out around the middle but I think that would be too adventurous for Harte. Itíll be Ben McDonnell as Angelo says and Iíd guess at Kennedy to partner him. We are very very light in that area. Iíve always been a fan of McClure but he seems to be out of favour before the season was halted. Maybe McKenna will be given a go in the middle in these upcoming league games.

Coney is far too lackadaisical for midfield at county level, and lacks size in comparison to other intercounty midfielders. Imagine him competing against Hugh McFadden or Jason McGee against Donegal in the first round. McClure and Conall McCann have the same problem.

Also bear in mind that this is all going to be played in bad weather and on heavy pitches and we'll be cutting our cloth accordingly. Richie Donnelly and Kennedy are our best bet if fit. Ordinarily my concern with them is that they would struggle with the pace of the game in the big spaces of Croke Park on a summers day, but that will not be an issue this time.

Conall McCann strikes me as the type of chap who would go off on his holidays for a week and leave the doors of his house wide open. He'd be an excellent player if he had a bit more focus and aggression to him. He's 26/27 now and is probably not going to break in at this time.

McGleenan's young lad looks to have all the talents to be a top class midfielder in years to come but he has a good bit of developing to do.

It's always been a weak area for Tyrone, is there anything much better in the county at the minute? I always thought Nugent from Galbally was a very good player any time I've seen him and would probably be worth a go at some point.

It would be two of Richie/Kilpatrick/Kennedy for me anyway.

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« Reply #12273 on: September 24, 2020, 12:20:12 PM »
Michael Cassidy played around the middle against Kerry in the semi final and competed well. Has more about him than some of the other names mentioned.

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« Reply #12274 on: September 24, 2020, 02:03:50 PM »
Michael Cassidy played around the middle against Kerry in the semi final and competed well. Has more about him than some of the other names mentioned.
Absolutely took to the cleaners by Paul Donaghy in the championship...

Completely right about McCann, will be nowhere near it.

Midfield definitely our weakest point, and possibly Donegals strongest point

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« Reply #12275 on: September 24, 2020, 02:19:18 PM »
Michael Cassidy played around the middle against Kerry in the semi final and competed well. Has more about him than some of the other names mentioned.
Absolutely took to the cleaners by Paul Donaghy in the championship...

Completely right about McCann, will be nowhere near it.

Midfield definitely our weakest point, and possibly Donegals strongest point

I think Kennedy has the attributes to be a quality county midfielder - we've historically not been blessed with a lot of huge men in our panel but Kennedy definitely has the size, he's a decent footballer as well and has a bit of aggression about him. We need to invest in him over the next couple of years and hope he gets a bit of luck with injuries.

Last years under 20s had a big midfield partnership. Ruairi Gormley was captain and I thought he would have got a senior call up this year but it didn't happen. Does anyone know how he's been doing for Strabane? Strabane seem to be struggling as a side so I'd be worried for Gormley's progression the longer he spends removed from a county set up.

His under 20s midfield partner was Joe Oguz, who is on this year's under 20 team also. He's another big lad who I'd hope would push on over the next couple of years but I know he's had some bad luck with injuries and missed Errigal's championship games this year.

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« Reply #12276 on: September 24, 2020, 02:22:23 PM »
Michael Cassidy played around the middle against Kerry in the semi final and competed well. Has more about him than some of the other names mentioned.

Cassidy was there to do a man marking job on Moran, he did an alright job on the day but he's not a midfielder.

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« Reply #12277 on: September 24, 2020, 02:23:50 PM »
Michael Cassidy played around the middle against Kerry in the semi final and competed well. Has more about him than some of the other names mentioned.
Absolutely took to the cleaners by Paul Donaghy in the championship...

Completely right about McCann, will be nowhere near it.

Midfield definitely our weakest point, and possibly Donegals strongest point

I think Kennedy has the attributes to be a quality county midfielder - we've historically not been blessed with a lot of huge men in our panel but Kennedy definitely has the size, he's a decent footballer as well and has a bit of aggression about him. We need to invest in him over the next couple of years and hope he gets a bit of luck with injuries.

Last years under 20s had a big midfield partnership. Ruairi Gormley was captain and I thought he would have got a senior call up this year but it didn't happen. Does anyone know how he's been doing for Strabane? Strabane seem to be struggling as a side so I'd be worried for Gormley's progression the longer he spends removed from a county set up.

His under 20s midfield partner was Joe Oguz, who is on this year's under 20 team also. He's another big lad who I'd hope would push on over the next couple of years but I know he's had some bad luck with injuries and missed Errigal's championship games this year.

Oguz looks a better player than McDonnell from what I've seen.

It's an odd name, is he half Turkish or something?

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« Reply #12278 on: September 24, 2020, 06:22:21 PM »
Michael Cassidy played around the middle against Kerry in the semi final and competed well. Has more about him than some of the other names mentioned.

Cassidy was there to do a man marking job on Moran, he did an alright job on the day but he's not a midfielder.

Agreed but fair chance something similar will happen again against the tip sides

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« Reply #12279 on: September 24, 2020, 07:27:28 PM »
Michael Cassidy played around the middle against Kerry in the semi final and competed well. Has more about him than some of the other names mentioned.
Absolutely took to the cleaners by Paul Donaghy in the championship...

Completely right about McCann, will be nowhere near it.

Midfield definitely our weakest point, and possibly Donegals strongest point

I think Kennedy has the attributes to be a quality county midfielder - we've historically not been blessed with a lot of huge men in our panel but Kennedy definitely has the size, he's a decent footballer as well and has a bit of aggression about him. We need to invest in him over the next couple of years and hope he gets a bit of luck with injuries.

Last years under 20s had a big midfield partnership. Ruairi Gormley was captain and I thought he would have got a senior call up this year but it didn't happen. Does anyone know how he's been doing for Strabane? Strabane seem to be struggling as a side so I'd be worried for Gormley's progression the longer he spends removed from a county set up.

His under 20s midfield partner was Joe Oguz, who is on this year's under 20 team also. He's another big lad who I'd hope would push on over the next couple of years but I know he's had some bad luck with injuries and missed Errigal's championship games this year.
Were u at them u20 games, Gormley showed really nothing to say he would be a senior footballer. He looked at one stage he might, and he might yet butvOquz stood out. Mark mckeaney was brilliant last year and has been Dungannons best player this year to, he suit hartes style of play to.
One player that hasn't been mentioned is Matthew Walsh. He done a great man marking job on donnelly and could be a complete wildcard

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« Reply #12280 on: September 24, 2020, 08:02:26 PM »
Michael Cassidy played around the middle against Kerry in the semi final and competed well. Has more about him than some of the other names mentioned.
Absolutely took to the cleaners by Paul Donaghy in the championship...

Completely right about McCann, will be nowhere near it.

Midfield definitely our weakest point, and possibly Donegals strongest point

I think Kennedy has the attributes to be a quality county midfielder - we've historically not been blessed with a lot of huge men in our panel but Kennedy definitely has the size, he's a decent footballer as well and has a bit of aggression about him. We need to invest in him over the next couple of years and hope he gets a bit of luck with injuries.

Last years under 20s had a big midfield partnership. Ruairi Gormley was captain and I thought he would have got a senior call up this year but it didn't happen. Does anyone know how he's been doing for Strabane? Strabane seem to be struggling as a side so I'd be worried for Gormley's progression the longer he spends removed from a county set up.

His under 20s midfield partner was Joe Oguz, who is on this year's under 20 team also. He's another big lad who I'd hope would push on over the next couple of years but I know he's had some bad luck with injuries and missed Errigal's championship games this year.
Were u at them u20 games, Gormley showed really nothing to say he would be a senior footballer. He looked at one stage he might, and he might yet butvOquz stood out. Mark mckeaney was brilliant last year and has been Dungannons best player this year to, he suit hartes style of play to.
One player that hasn't been mentioned is Matthew Walsh. He done a great man marking job on donnelly and could be a complete wildcard

Walsh was very impressive for Dungannon. I remember thinking he was the one player who looked like the Tyrone u21 side were carrying back in 2020 but he's had an excellent club campaign and has a great engine on him. But he probably doesn't offer us anything we don't already have.

McKearney was very impressive but looks a little slight for county level, what age is he?

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« Reply #12281 on: September 24, 2020, 08:52:38 PM »
Michael Cassidy played around the middle against Kerry in the semi final and competed well. Has more about him than some of the other names mentioned.
Absolutely took to the cleaners by Paul Donaghy in the championship...

Completely right about McCann, will be nowhere near it.

Midfield definitely our weakest point, and possibly Donegals strongest point

I think Kennedy has the attributes to be a quality county midfielder - we've historically not been blessed with a lot of huge men in our panel but Kennedy definitely has the size, he's a decent footballer as well and has a bit of aggression about him. We need to invest in him over the next couple of years and hope he gets a bit of luck with injuries.

Last years under 20s had a big midfield partnership. Ruairi Gormley was captain and I thought he would have got a senior call up this year but it didn't happen. Does anyone know how he's been doing for Strabane? Strabane seem to be struggling as a side so I'd be worried for Gormley's progression the longer he spends removed from a county set up.

His under 20s midfield partner was Joe Oguz, who is on this year's under 20 team also. He's another big lad who I'd hope would push on over the next couple of years but I know he's had some bad luck with injuries and missed Errigal's championship games this year.
Were u at them u20 games, Gormley showed really nothing to say he would be a senior footballer. He looked at one stage he might, and he might yet butvOquz stood out. Mark mckeaney was brilliant last year and has been Dungannons best player this year to, he suit hartes style of play to.
One player that hasn't been mentioned is Matthew Walsh. He done a great man marking job on donnelly and could be a complete wildcard

Walsh was very impressive for Dungannon. I remember thinking he was the one player who looked like the Tyrone u21 side were carrying back in 2020 but he's had an excellent club campaign and has a great engine on him. But he probably doesn't offer us anything we don't already have.

McKearney was very impressive but looks a little slight for county level, what age is he?
He was half forward on last year's u20 team. He's always in the thick of it. The talent that is available is unreal in Tyrone but the more u think about it the more harte needs to go. His man management skills are non existant. Hardly any supporters go to games anymore

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« Reply #12282 on: September 24, 2020, 09:38:06 PM »
A new manager along with 5-6 new faces in the squad would get a lot more supporters back interested.

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« Reply #12283 on: September 24, 2020, 09:44:29 PM »
A new manager along with 5-6 new faces in the squad would get a lot more supporters back interested.

Who's first in line to takeover from Mickey? Probably Collie Holmes at this stage.

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« Reply #12284 on: September 24, 2020, 10:22:22 PM »
Canavan always looked like the pre-ordained successor but he's probably too comfortable in his media role now and a bit out of touch with the managerial side.

Malachy O'Rourke probably has the best credentials but I would imagine it's likely to be an internal appointment.

There would be plenty of high profile names to be thrown about but none really stick out as all that encouraging.

I do think a freshness might be needed around now though.