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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #11100 on: November 24, 2019, 01:37:15 PM »
The question that really needs answered is what actually has he done in 12 months of his role?? Absolutely nothing all the good work daly done is gone now


What good work is gone now ?

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« Reply #11101 on: November 26, 2019, 09:21:56 PM »
GAA Master Fixtures released today.

Sun 26 Jan 2pm Omagh - Tyrone v Meath
Sun 2 Feb 2pm Castleblayney - Monaghan v Tyrone
Sun 9 Feb 2pm Omagh - Tyrone v Kerry
Sun 23 Feb 2pm Tuam - Galway v Tyrone
Sat 29 Feb 7.15pm Omagh - Tyrone v Dublin
Sat 14 Mar 7pm Ballybofey - Donegal v Tyrone
Sun 22 Mar 2pm Castlebar - Mayo v Tyrone

Sun 17 May Ulster Quarter Final (Ballybofey) - Donegal v Tyrone
Sat 30 / Sun 31 May Ulster Semi Final - Donegal/Tyrone v Derry/Armagh
Sun 21 June - Ulster Final

Sat 20 June - Qualifier Preliminary Round
Sat 27 June - Qualifier Round 1
Sat 4 July / Sun 5 July - Qualifier Round 2

Sat 11 July / Sun 12 July - Super 8s R1
Sat 18 July / Sun 19 July - Super 8s R2 (2 winners in first Super 8 game play each other, and 2 losers play each other)
Sat 1 Aug / Sun 2 Aug - Super 8s R3

Sat 8 Aug / Sun 9 Aug - All-Ireland Semi Finals

Sun 30 Aug - All-Ireland Final


Big change from last year for us is the Tier 2 taking away 2 rounds of Qualifiers.. the loser of the Donegal-Tyrone game will likely have to wait 6 weeks for their next Championship game, then will have to play 4 weeks in a row, and 6 times in 7 weeks if they are to make the AI Final

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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #11102 on: November 27, 2019, 07:30:20 AM »
GAA Master Fixtures released today.

Sun 26 Jan 2pm Omagh - Tyrone v Meath
Sun 2 Feb 2pm Castleblayney - Monaghan v Tyrone
Sun 9 Feb 2pm Omagh - Tyrone v Kerry
Sun 23 Feb 2pm Tuam - Galway v Tyrone
Sat 29 Feb 7.15pm Omagh - Tyrone v Dublin
Sat 14 Mar 7pm Ballybofey - Donegal v Tyrone
Sun 22 Mar 2pm Castlebar - Mayo v Tyrone

Sun 17 May Ulster Quarter Final (Ballybofey) - Donegal v Tyrone
Sat 30 / Sun 31 May Ulster Semi Final - Donegal/Tyrone v Derry/Armagh
Sun 21 June - Ulster Final

Sat 20 June - Qualifier Preliminary Round
Sat 27 June - Qualifier Round 1
Sat 4 July / Sun 5 July - Qualifier Round 2

Sat 11 July / Sun 12 July - Super 8s R1
Sat 18 July / Sun 19 July - Super 8s R2 (2 winners in first Super 8 game play each other, and 2 losers play each other)
Sat 1 Aug / Sun 2 Aug - Super 8s R3

Sat 8 Aug / Sun 9 Aug - All-Ireland Semi Finals

Sun 30 Aug - All-Ireland Final


Big change from last year for us is the Tier 2 taking away 2 rounds of Qualifiers.. the loser of the Donegal-Tyrone game will likely have to wait 6 weeks for their next Championship game, then will have to play 4 weeks in a row, and 6 times in 7 weeks if they are to make the AI Final

How will the qualifiers work this year?

Say Tyrone exit Ulster against Donegal, who are there potential opponents in the first qualifier round?

Once the likes of Cork, Derry or Down lose in their provincial Championship do they go straight into the Tier 2 Championship?

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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #11103 on: November 27, 2019, 08:24:08 AM »
My understanding is that only teams that are effectively division 1 or 2 teams for 2021 will be eligible to compete in the qualifiers next year (unless they make their provincial final). So if Derry Down or Cork get promoted from division 3 they will be able to enter the qualifiers. I think it's a bad idea but will make division 2 and 3 in the league very interesting next year.

Looking at the schedule it is much more promising for getting the club league games played next year than this year - with no preliminary round and less qualifier games.

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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #11104 on: November 27, 2019, 09:15:34 AM »
Are the new rules for next year also applicable for club?

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« Reply #11105 on: November 27, 2019, 11:19:58 AM »
Are the new rules for next year also applicable for club?

No more draws allowed in the league, 2 points settled by a last man standing match

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« Reply #11106 on: November 27, 2019, 12:10:17 PM »
Are the new rules for next year also applicable for club?

No more draws allowed in the league, 2 points settled by a last man standing match

Invaluable as always. Thanks.

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« Reply #11107 on: November 27, 2019, 01:22:45 PM »
Are the new rules for next year also applicable for club?

No more draws allowed in the league, 2 points settled by a last man standing match

Invaluable as always. Thanks.
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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #11108 on: November 27, 2019, 02:21:12 PM »
Are the new rules for next year also applicable for club?

No more draws allowed in the league, 2 points settled by a last man standing match

Invaluable as always. Thanks.
Taxes, death and topsoil to be a cheeky bollox
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Strange considering his linked website and declared as a Derrylaughan man....doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who he is....

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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #11109 on: November 30, 2019, 09:25:07 PM »
In Dublin manager wins 6 all Ireland's in 7 seasons steps aside

Meanwhile in Tyrone..........  :o

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« Reply #11110 on: December 01, 2019, 12:33:52 AM »
In Dublin manager wins 6 all Ireland's in 7 seasons steps aside

Meanwhile in Tyrone..........  :o

When Mickey goes he will likely pass the torch onto Mark, so he will not really be gone anyway.

It’s depressing as fcuk to be a Tyrone supporter especially when you know the potential of what could be otherwise.

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« Reply #11111 on: December 01, 2019, 07:46:20 AM »
In Dublin manager wins 6 all Ireland's in 7 seasons steps aside

Meanwhile in Tyrone..........  :o

When Mickey goes he will likely pass the torch onto Mark, so he will not really be gone anyway.

It’s depressing as fcuk to be a Tyrone supporter especially when you know the potential of what could be otherwise.

We’re currently a top 4/5 team in Ireland. What is this potential that suggests we’re better than the counties above us? U20/U21 is the grade to me that suggests what players are coming through. Ignoring last years u20 Ulster win as players not through yet we’ve only won one Ulster and all Ireland in the last 13 years. Dublin have dominated Leinster and picked up 4 all Ireland’s.

How many Tyrone players would currently make the Dublin team?

Even at club level our champions consistently struggle outside Tyrone. Where is the evidence that Harte should be doing better than he is?

We’re also spending less money than the other top counties on the county team which is another disadvantage.

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« Reply #11112 on: December 01, 2019, 10:18:25 AM »
In Dublin manager wins 6 all Ireland's in 7 seasons steps aside

Meanwhile in Tyrone..........  :o

When Mickey goes he will likely pass the torch onto Mark, so he will not really be gone anyway.

It’s depressing as fcuk to be a Tyrone supporter especially when you know the potential of what could be otherwise.

We’re currently a top 4/5 team in Ireland. What is this potential that suggests we’re better than the counties above us? U20/U21 is the grade to me that suggests what players are coming through. Ignoring last years u20 Ulster win as players not through yet we’ve only won one Ulster and all Ireland in the last 13 years. Dublin have dominated Leinster and picked up 4 all Ireland’s.

How many Tyrone players would currently make the Dublin team?

Even at club level our champions consistently struggle outside Tyrone. Where is the evidence that Harte should be doing better than he is?

We’re also spending less money than the other top counties on the county team which is another disadvantage.

Harte raised the bar for Tyrone football and is now judged under that (unfairly so).

If you look at teams that have won All Ireland's since Tyrone last won one.

Kerry (09 and 14)
Cork (10)
Donegal (12)
Dublin (11, 13, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19)

2 All Irelands in 11 years would be deemed a very poor return down in Kerry as they are the traditional powerhouses of the game along with Dublin.
Cork have fallen away to ridicule and embarrassment since they last won an AI.
Donegal are more or less at the same level as Tyrone are currently and managed to stay at the top but Tyrone have maintained that over a decade and a complete overhaul of their glory years.

You take a look at counties like Derry, Down, Armagh, Galway, Meath etc and how far they have fallen from grace after their glory days of the 90s/00s and I think Tyrone can be grateful that they have remained relevant.

The defeat for Galbally means that we will now have a full pack for the McKenna Cup so Quinn and Kerr will get their chance to impress before the league.


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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #11113 on: December 01, 2019, 10:20:22 PM »
In Dublin manager wins 6 all Ireland's in 7 seasons steps aside

Meanwhile in Tyrone..........  :o

When Mickey goes he will likely pass the torch onto Mark, so he will not really be gone anyway.

It’s depressing as fcuk to be a Tyrone supporter especially when you know the potential of what could be otherwise.

We’re currently a top 4/5 team in Ireland. What is this potential that suggests we’re better than the counties above us? U20/U21 is the grade to me that suggests what players are coming through. Ignoring last years u20 Ulster win as players not through yet we’ve only won one Ulster and all Ireland in the last 13 years. Dublin have dominated Leinster and picked up 4 all Ireland’s.

How many Tyrone players would currently make the Dublin team?

Even at club level our champions consistently struggle outside Tyrone. Where is the evidence that Harte should be doing better than he is?

We’re also spending less money than the other top counties on the county team which is another disadvantage.

Harte raised the bar for Tyrone football and is now judged under that (unfairly so).

If you look at teams that have won All Ireland's since Tyrone last won one.

Kerry (09 and 14)
Cork (10)
Donegal (12)
Dublin (11, 13, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19)

2 All Irelands in 11 years would be deemed a very poor return down in Kerry as they are the traditional powerhouses of the game along with Dublin.
Cork have fallen away to ridicule and embarrassment since they last won an AI.
Donegal are more or less at the same level as Tyrone are currently and managed to stay at the top but Tyrone have maintained that over a decade and a complete overhaul of their glory years.

You take a look at counties like Derry, Down, Armagh, Galway, Meath etc and how far they have fallen from grace after their glory days of the 90s/00s and I think Tyrone can be grateful that they have remained relevant.

The defeat for Galbally means that we will now have a full pack for the McKenna Cup so Quinn and Kerr will get their chance to impress before the league.

2 x All Irelands for Kerry and how many times have they changed manager since 09??
While Tyrone stick to a dinosaur of the game

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« Reply #11114 on: December 01, 2019, 11:09:41 PM »
In Dublin manager wins 6 all Ireland's in 7 seasons steps aside

Meanwhile in Tyrone..........  :o

When Mickey goes he will likely pass the torch onto Mark, so he will not really be gone anyway.

It’s depressing as fcuk to be a Tyrone supporter especially when you know the potential of what could be otherwise.

We’re currently a top 4/5 team in Ireland. What is this potential that suggests we’re better than the counties above us? U20/U21 is the grade to me that suggests what players are coming through. Ignoring last years u20 Ulster win as players not through yet we’ve only won one Ulster and all Ireland in the last 13 years. Dublin have dominated Leinster and picked up 4 all Ireland’s.

How many Tyrone players would currently make the Dublin team?

Even at club level our champions consistently struggle outside Tyrone. Where is the evidence that Harte should be doing better than he is?

We’re also spending less money than the other top counties on the county team which is another disadvantage.

Harte raised the bar for Tyrone football and is now judged under that (unfairly so).

If you look at teams that have won All Ireland's since Tyrone last won one.

Kerry (09 and 14)
Cork (10)
Donegal (12)
Dublin (11, 13, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19)

2 All Irelands in 11 years would be deemed a very poor return down in Kerry as they are the traditional powerhouses of the game along with Dublin.
Cork have fallen away to ridicule and embarrassment since they last won an AI.
Donegal are more or less at the same level as Tyrone are currently and managed to stay at the top but Tyrone have maintained that over a decade and a complete overhaul of their glory years.

You take a look at counties like Derry, Down, Armagh, Galway, Meath etc and how far they have fallen from grace after their glory days of the 90s/00s and I think Tyrone can be grateful that they have remained relevant.

The defeat for Galbally means that we will now have a full pack for the McKenna Cup so Quinn and Kerr will get their chance to impress before the league.

2 x All Irelands for Kerry and how many times have they changed manager since 09??
While Tyrone stick to a dinosaur of the game

You are comparing Kerry with Tyrone, there is a seismic gap in terms of tradition.

Mickey Harte is the only manager who was able to bridge that gap. Changing managers did not do much good for the likes of Galway, Armagh, Meath, Down or Derry now did it? It didn't bring Mayo any closer. I think the bottom line is that for the past decade we just haven't had the players, simple as that.

The team of the decade has cropped up in recent years, I can't think of a single Tyrone player who would be close to getting on it.

But blame the manager.