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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #10845 on: October 02, 2019, 11:19:41 AM »
Jim McGuinness rumoured in be linked with Tyrone management set up this year. Does it hold any water i wonder?

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« Reply #10846 on: October 02, 2019, 12:19:01 PM »
Jim McGuinness rumoured in be linked with Tyrone management set up this year. Does it hold any water i wonder?

Maybe the year after next (2021) alongside Canavan when Mickey's term finally runs out

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« Reply #10847 on: October 02, 2019, 01:17:34 PM »
What do we think the view of Harte is inside the panel? We've seen quite a few counties in recent years (Mayo and Fermanagh for example) make serious moves to oust managers that they weren't happy with. If you look through that Tyrone panel there are quite a few lads now at the peak of their careers (Mattie, Morgan, McNamee, Petey Harte), if these lads had reservations about Harte then surely they would make this known and either try to force change or have him replaced (obviously Petey is excused from this), rather than waste the best years of their careers playing for a manager they have no faith in.

This might not be great for those concerned from a PR perspective, especially if it backfired and the team performed poorly the next year, but if they felt it was necessary then I'm sure they would take action. Does the fact that they haven't indicate that the players are content with the management set up?

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« Reply #10848 on: October 02, 2019, 01:41:27 PM »
Not a McCurry fan by any stretch but the man proved in the Championship that when he is allowed to play up the field and not waste energy and speed defending (which he's not great at) he is a very dangerous player up front. Id have McCurry over Bradley or Brennan any day of the week if he is able to stay inside/close to the goals.. or even inside the oppositions have.

Don't understand why we don't work to our players strengths

McCurry lacks the physicality inside at county level. He's a lovely footballer but he's very guilty of letting his head drop and going hiding and when you're playing inside you need to have that mental toughness to keep showing and trying to impact the game.

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« Reply #10849 on: October 02, 2019, 02:15:23 PM »
Not a McCurry fan by any stretch but the man proved in the Championship that when he is allowed to play up the field and not waste energy and speed defending (which he's not great at) he is a very dangerous player up front. Id have McCurry over Bradley or Brennan any day of the week if he is able to stay inside/close to the goals.. or even inside the oppositions have.

Don't understand why we don't work to our players strengths

McCurry lacks the physicality inside at county level. He's a lovely footballer but he's very guilty of letting his head drop and going hiding and when you're playing inside you need to have that mental toughness to keep showing and trying to impact the game.
All I see is you complain about Tyrones size and that Lee Brennan is too small, Mark Bradley is too small and now McCurry is too small too. Catch yourself on, we just aren't using the players correctly. Man who scored the winning goal in the All Ireland isn't that big or physical

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« Reply #10850 on: October 02, 2019, 02:39:31 PM »
What do we think the view of Harte is inside the panel? We've seen quite a few counties in recent years (Mayo and Fermanagh for example) make serious moves to oust managers that they weren't happy with. If you look through that Tyrone panel there are quite a few lads now at the peak of their careers (Mattie, Morgan, McNamee, Petey Harte), if these lads had reservations about Harte then surely they would make this known and either try to force change or have him replaced (obviously Petey is excused from this), rather than waste the best years of their careers playing for a manager they have no faith in.

This might not be great for those concerned from a PR perspective, especially if it backfired and the team performed poorly the next year, but if they felt it was necessary then I'm sure they would take action. Does the fact that they haven't indicate that the players are content with the management set up?
no. It means they are afraid to speak out. Even Sean cavanagh was quiet as a mouse until he retired. Nice try but harte is finished.

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« Reply #10851 on: October 02, 2019, 03:20:56 PM »
What do we think the view of Harte is inside the panel? We've seen quite a few counties in recent years (Mayo and Fermanagh for example) make serious moves to oust managers that they weren't happy with. If you look through that Tyrone panel there are quite a few lads now at the peak of their careers (Mattie, Morgan, McNamee, Petey Harte), if these lads had reservations about Harte then surely they would make this known and either try to force change or have him replaced (obviously Petey is excused from this), rather than waste the best years of their careers playing for a manager they have no faith in.

This might not be great for those concerned from a PR perspective, especially if it backfired and the team performed poorly the next year, but if they felt it was necessary then I'm sure they would take action. Does the fact that they haven't indicate that the players are content with the management set up?
no. It means they are afraid to speak out. Even Sean cavanagh was quiet as a mouse until he retired. Nice try but harte is finished.

Well if that's the case it doesn't say much for our players if they are prepared to waste their prime years playing for a manager they think is finished just because they are afraid to speak out.

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« Reply #10852 on: October 02, 2019, 03:48:35 PM »
What do we think the view of Harte is inside the panel? We've seen quite a few counties in recent years (Mayo and Fermanagh for example) make serious moves to oust managers that they weren't happy with. If you look through that Tyrone panel there are quite a few lads now at the peak of their careers (Mattie, Morgan, McNamee, Petey Harte), if these lads had reservations about Harte then surely they would make this known and either try to force change or have him replaced (obviously Petey is excused from this), rather than waste the best years of their careers playing for a manager they have no faith in.

This might not be great for those concerned from a PR perspective, especially if it backfired and the team performed poorly the next year, but if they felt it was necessary then I'm sure they would take action. Does the fact that they haven't indicate that the players are content with the management set up?
no. It means they are afraid to speak out. Even Sean cavanagh was quiet as a mouse until he retired. Nice try but harte is finished.

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« Reply #10853 on: October 02, 2019, 05:34:57 PM »
Coudnt see a man as travelled and remunerated as Jim heading to Gaa in near future.

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« Reply #10854 on: October 02, 2019, 06:57:21 PM »
Coudnt see a man as travelled and remunerated as Jim heading to Gaa in near future.
don't think harte would enjoy being number 2 to Mc Guinness.

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« Reply #10855 on: October 02, 2019, 09:42:35 PM »
What do we think the view of Harte is inside the panel? We've seen quite a few counties in recent years (Mayo and Fermanagh for example) make serious moves to oust managers that they weren't happy with. If you look through that Tyrone panel there are quite a few lads now at the peak of their careers (Mattie, Morgan, McNamee, Petey Harte), if these lads had reservations about Harte then surely they would make this known and either try to force change or have him replaced (obviously Petey is excused from this), rather than waste the best years of their careers playing for a manager they have no faith in.

This might not be great for those concerned from a PR perspective, especially if it backfired and the team performed poorly the next year, but if they felt it was necessary then I'm sure they would take action. Does the fact that they haven't indicate that the players are content with the management set up?

Maybe the players appreciate that they have been playing in huge games year in year out and are insightful enough understand the job Harte has been doing to keep returning them to Croke Park in late August on a consistent basis. They are probably in a better position to make this judgement than the odd keyboard warrior on here.
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« Reply #10856 on: October 02, 2019, 10:50:57 PM »
Not a McCurry fan by any stretch but the man proved in the Championship that when he is allowed to play up the field and not waste energy and speed defending (which he's not great at) he is a very dangerous player up front. Id have McCurry over Bradley or Brennan any day of the week if he is able to stay inside/close to the goals.. or even inside the oppositions have.

Don't understand why we don't work to our players strengths

McCurry lacks the physicality inside at county level. He's a lovely footballer but he's very guilty of letting his head drop and going hiding and when you're playing inside you need to have that mental toughness to keep showing and trying to impact the game.
All I see is you complain about Tyrones size and that Lee Brennan is too small, Mark Bradley is too small and now McCurry is too small too. Catch yourself on, we just aren't using the players correctly. Man who scored the winning goal in the All Ireland isn't that big or physical

That's bollocks. Look at the semi finalists this year. They all had big, powerful players playing inside. Look at the difference McShane made playing inside this year. The beauty with McShane is he can win it anyway. McCurry will struggle to win ball inside. He's a lovely player but he's too small.

Kerry had Geaney, Walsh, Spillane and Clifford operating inside - all big physical guys.

Dublin had Rock, Mannion, O'Callaghan operating inside all big powerful guys. Even the likes of Costello and Paddy Small are around 6ft and very physically developed.

Mayo has Darren Coen, Cillian O'Connor and Carr inside who are all well over 6ft. Even though Andy Moran is not the tallest he's a very powerful who won't be pushed off the ball.

None of the top teams have small guys lacking in power and presence playing inside for them.

The game is gone for them unfortunately.

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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #10857 on: October 09, 2019, 08:57:22 AM »
Away to Donegal...nice start

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« Reply #10858 on: October 09, 2019, 09:17:44 AM »
Away to Donegal...nice start

Nice early meltdown about Harte the year due.

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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #10859 on: October 09, 2019, 11:01:55 AM »
nice, but tough draw