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« Reply #10125 on: July 12, 2019, 05:44:39 PM »
As did everyone with half a brain because that's exactly what it was.

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« Reply #10126 on: July 13, 2019, 11:50:01 AM »
I wasn't at that game but I heard from others that the Kerry fans were a disgrace that day. The language and hatred they had before and during the game was a real eye opener for many.
Then when they had us beaten they mellowed and were all patronising and smug as if they had finally put us back in our place. Yes most of them have a lot of respect for Mickey Harte but had we have beaten them that day I'm not so sure would they have been so pleased to look for autographs and wish the lads well on the way home.
I've always found that with Kerry people, lovely when they're beating you but in 2008 final I was sitting in the middle of loads and before the game not one would chat to me or have the craic. As soon as game was over they were away.

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« Reply #10127 on: July 13, 2019, 12:26:35 PM »
I wasn't at that game but I heard from others that the Kerry fans were a disgrace that day. The language and hatred they had before and during the game was a real eye opener for many.
Then when they had us beaten they mellowed and were all patronising and smug as if they had finally put us back in our place. Yes most of them have a lot of respect for Mickey Harte but had we have beaten them that day I'm not so sure would they have been so pleased to look for autographs and wish the lads well on the way home.
I've always found that with Kerry people, lovely when they're beating you but in 2008 final I was sitting in the middle of loads and before the game not one would chat to me or have the craic. As soon as game was over they were away.

Its a superiority complex that certain elements within their fanbase have. Have noticed it over the years at league/championship games. They will be your friend until you dare to question their status as the best team in Ireland,especially when you are *shudder*, a nordie team.

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« Reply #10128 on: July 13, 2019, 04:54:23 PM »
I was on the hill in the 03 semi final with the wife and was surrounded by kerry lads and genuinely was waiting for them to kick off.

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« Reply #10129 on: July 13, 2019, 09:01:30 PM »
Niall Morgan who had a great game by the way, 0 from 1 on the frees I think. I make that <checks notes> yes 0% 

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« Reply #10130 on: July 14, 2019, 08:18:18 AM »
Thought Tyrone really flexed their muscles in the 2nd half. Roscommon put an awful lot into the first half and went in trailing which will be tough for them.

I was little worried about how easy Roscommon were able to feed their full forward line in the first half but in the second half we really got on top of them and probably would have ran out more convincing winners if we were ruthless enough there.

Kennedy will presumably be a big doubt for next week.

Harte replaced Coney in the named squad yesterday. Thought this was a bit of a surprise (unless Coney was injured) as McAliskey was the only other attacking option on the bench. McCann also seemed to be ready to come on at some point yesterday, he was wearing the no 29 jersey so presumably he will be ready to come back in shortly.

Cork look to be much improved this year and have some good players across the pitch but the way they play should fit perfectly for Tyrone. They have conceded 5-18 and 1-19 the game before so we should get plenty of chances to open them up.

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« Reply #10131 on: July 14, 2019, 08:27:18 AM »
Looks like Tyrone are back to their brilliant, boring best.

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« Reply #10132 on: July 14, 2019, 08:48:28 AM »
I wasn't at that game but I heard from others that the Kerry fans were a disgrace that day. The language and hatred they had before and during the game was a real eye opener for many.
Then when they had us beaten they mellowed and were all patronising and smug as if they had finally put us back in our place. Yes most of them have a lot of respect for Mickey Harte but had we have beaten them that day I'm not so sure would they have been so pleased to look for autographs and wish the lads well on the way home.
I've always found that with Kerry people, lovely when they're beating you but in 2008 final I was sitting in the middle of loads and before the game not one would chat to me or have the craic. As soon as game was over they were away.
All 100%

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« Reply #10133 on: July 14, 2019, 11:18:59 AM »
I'm finding it hard to resist the quote button on here but I will. Go back over the last season or two on here and read some of the comments re Cathal McShane. A fair proportion of 'experts' wrote him off and the criticism was over the top. Some of the commentary childish in fact.

Two years ago I cited Cathal's schedule for the 2 to 3 years around his U21/ senior career. He basically played for Club, two County teams and university 12 months of the year with his longest break 2 x weeks. I thought he was badly managed and a lot of errors were fatigue driven.

Cathal could score 0.3, and miss an easy one but the easy one would be remembered and accentuated.

Another major factor is Cathal went in to Tyrone seniors with very little experience compared to others. While most other players will play McCrory, or grade one youth football or division 1/ 2 Club football as a grounding Cathal didn't.

He played 8 x grade one youth games at most, and to date bar 14 division 2 games all his footballl has been played ary junior level.

This blunts your decision making, and leaves you slightly undercooked for the challenges you may face at Inter County level.

If the GAABoard panel had their way he'd of been off the squad 2 x years ago. However here we are today with the leading scorer in Ireland.

Now I'm not saying he's the best player in Ireland, nor is he immune from criticism and he'll hit 0.8 every week but he's doing alright.  He's earned his place and I for one am delighted to see it.
Owen Roe O'Neills GAC, Leckpatrick, Tyrone

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« Reply #10134 on: July 14, 2019, 11:42:31 AM »
Haha Norf has just went full Fr Ted giving his golden cleric speech! And now we move on to liars...

Fair play to you, Cathal's form must be sweet for you Roes men. As usual in here the criticism went over the top but it when it was reasonable it tended to be on that theme of decision making. You make very valid points about his youth football/club grading standard affecting his performance under pressure and he's clearly done serious work as his stats recently have been off the chart. I'd easily say he's leading contender for the FF all star this year.

On additional issue, guys like Cathal and Colm show us why we're sitting at the smart phones and Mickey is in the hot seat. Most people would have had them off the team or panel altogether. Clearly Mickey seen the potential in both and has developed the best sweeper playing the game (alongside Cian O'Sullivan) and has Cathal well on the way to be becoming one of the leading FFs in the country.

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« Reply #10135 on: July 14, 2019, 11:43:27 AM »
I'm finding it hard to resist the quote button on here but I will. Go back over the last season or two on here and read some of the comments re Cathal McShane. A fair proportion of 'experts' wrote him off and the criticism was over the top. Some of the commentary childish in fact.

Two years ago I cited Cathal's schedule for the 2 to 3 years around his U21/ senior career. He basically played for Club, two County teams and university 12 months of the year with his longest break 2 x weeks. I thought he was badly managed and a lot of errors were fatigue driven.

Cathal could score 0.3, and miss an easy one but the easy one would be remembered and accentuated.

Another major factor is Cathal went in to Tyrone seniors with very little experience compared to others. While most other players will play McCrory, or grade one youth football or division 1/ 2 Club football as a grounding Cathal didn't.

He played 8 x grade one youth games at most, and to date bar 14 division 2 games all his footballl has been played ary junior level.

This blunts your decision making, and leaves you slightly undercooked for the challenges you may face at Inter County level.

If the GAABoard panel had their way he'd of been off the squad 2 x years ago. However here we are today with the leading scorer in Ireland.

Now I'm not saying he's the best player in Ireland, nor is he immune from criticism and he'll hit 0.8 every week but he's doing alright.  He's earned his place and I for one am delighted to see it.

McShane's problem in previous years was his decision making, he would take on ridiculous shots with low success rate and when you're playing against the top teams those type of misses can kill you and just drain the confidence from the team. I thought some of the criticism of McShane was valid, some OTT but it was always with the caveat that he was/is young and he has plenty of time to develop his game and improve on where he was falling down.

He has been outstanding so far this year and hopefully he will keep it up, he seems to have worked extremely hard over the last few years and even in the light of the criticism he has received in past years, one thing you could certainly not accuse him of was his effort and the fact he never goes hiding in games whether he's playing well or not. His movement and finishing has been great but it's his composure this year that makes him look a different player. He looks to have developed a different style of kicking the ball too, maybe it's because he tends to only shoot now within a 30 yard range.

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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #10136 on: July 14, 2019, 01:08:18 PM »
Shoe in for an All Star this year.

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« Reply #10137 on: July 14, 2019, 01:22:57 PM »
Shoe in for an All Star this year.

Skeet was second top scorer in the championship total last year and second top scorer from play and didn't even get a nomination let alone an All star. Hard to say someone from Tyrone is a shoe in at full forward.

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« Reply #10138 on: July 14, 2019, 01:56:47 PM »
Looks like Tyrone are back to their brilliant, boring best.

Another good win wasnít it? Great that everyone is back talking football and not sidelined by other nonsense.

Great result going away to a team that have already knocked out two top 5 teams. Itís been a brilliant response to a very poor performance against Donegal. One win away from a semi final, letís hope itís secured next weekend.

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« Reply #10139 on: July 14, 2019, 03:53:53 PM »
Shoe in for an All Star this year.

Skeet was second top scorer in the championship total last year and second top scorer from play and didn't even get a nomination let alone an All star. Hard to say someone from Tyrone is a shoe in at full forward.

Shoo-in. Shoo, shoo, shoooo-in.

Carry on.