FRC proposals...black cards, marks etc

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muppet

Quote from: orangeman on January 26, 2014, 04:15:40 PM
Aye but it was a cute Kerry hoor set up on the poor Cork lads.

Even Frank Murphy will do well to find a rule against that.  :D
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cornerback

All-Ireland Minor Football Semi-Final (2000) Cork v Derry. Cork midfielder Kieran Murphy received two yellows but Roscommon referee Gerry Kinneavy neglected to send him off. Quick to notice the mistake the Cork bench substituted Murphy and proceeded to win the game. The miss was of course highlighted to the referee in the aftermath, Frank Murphy however arrived into the Cork dressing room and instructed them not to worry about anything and to prepare for the final as best they could, and he would 'sort it out.' The Cork minors went on the win the All-Ireland.

orangeman

Quote from: cornerback on January 27, 2014, 12:27:48 AM
All-Ireland Minor Football Semi-Final (2000) Cork v Derry. Cork midfielder Kieran Murphy received two yellows but Roscommon referee Gerry Kinneavy neglected to send him off. Quick to notice the mistake the Cork bench substituted Murphy and proceeded to win the game. The miss was of course highlighted to the referee in the aftermath, Frank Murphy however arrived into the Cork dressing room and instructed them not to worry about anything and to prepare for the final as best they could, and he would 'sort it out.' The Cork minors went on the win the All-Ireland.

It the first time and probably not the last time that Frank sorted things out for his beloved Cork.

johnneycool

Quote from: orangeman on January 27, 2014, 12:56:24 AM
Quote from: cornerback on January 27, 2014, 12:27:48 AM
All-Ireland Minor Football Semi-Final (2000) Cork v Derry. Cork midfielder Kieran Murphy received two yellows but Roscommon referee Gerry Kinneavy neglected to send him off. Quick to notice the mistake the Cork bench substituted Murphy and proceeded to win the game. The miss was of course highlighted to the referee in the aftermath, Frank Murphy however arrived into the Cork dressing room and instructed them not to worry about anything and to prepare for the final as best they could, and he would 'sort it out.' The Cork minors went on the win the All-Ireland.

It the first time and probably not the last time that Frank sorted things out for his beloved Cork.

Frank has previous long before this minor game of getting players off on technicalities, Donal O'g and Co availed of his services a few times before going out on strike because of him..

Zulu

Ever heard the term let sleeping dogs lie boys?

SuperDooperCooper

Guys,  I have a questions that the rules aficionado might be able to help me with. 

We are back training the club underage team this week and the handpass got an airing. 

The new rules allows a player in possession to score a point with an openhanded hand-pass.  What I have been unable to determine is if the close fist must still be used in hand-passing or if the GAA have one rule for scoring (open Hand allowed) and another rule for general play (close fist only).   I feel it is the latter but I am not sure.

Zulu

You can hand pass with an open hand during open play. There is no obligation to use the closed fist.

AZOffaly

Quote from: Zulu on January 27, 2014, 06:37:30 PM
You can hand pass with an open hand during open play. There is no obligation to use the closed fist.

What he said. I would add there is supposed to be a clear striking motion, with one hand remaining stationary.  None of you Pat Spillane circa 1979 pushing the ball.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: AZOffaly on January 27, 2014, 08:15:38 PM
Quote from: Zulu on January 27, 2014, 06:37:30 PM
You can hand pass with an open hand during open play. There is no obligation to use the closed fist.

What he said. I would add there is supposed to be a clear striking motion, with one hand remaining stationary.  None of you Pat Spillane circa 1979 pushing the ball.

Correct
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Rossfan

Quote from: AZOffaly on January 27, 2014, 08:15:38 PM
Quote from: Zulu on January 27, 2014, 06:37:30 PM
You can hand pass with an open hand during open play. There is no obligation to use the closed fist.
I would add there is supposed to be a clear striking motion, with one hand remaining stationary.
In Carrick last Sunday the one handed "pass" was all the vogue.
Michael Duffy was the ref though.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Rossfan on January 28, 2014, 10:46:11 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 27, 2014, 08:15:38 PM
Quote from: Zulu on January 27, 2014, 06:37:30 PM
You can hand pass with an open hand during open play. There is no obligation to use the closed fist.
I would add there is supposed to be a clear striking motion, with one hand remaining stationary.
In Carrick last Sunday the one handed "pass" was all the vogue.
Michael Duffy was the ref though.

You can pop the ball up with one hand and strike it I think, usually happens when a player a being grappled with and other hand is held.
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AZOffaly

Yes, my understanding is that if your striking hand is being held (which is a foul of course!) or pinned, you can then throw the ball up and strike it with the same hand like a hurling pass.

Jinxy

I'm not sure if you can throw it up as such.
I always thought your hand could move downward from the ball alright but if there was a significant upward 'throw' that was illegal.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Jinxy on January 28, 2014, 12:13:44 PM
I'm not sure if you can throw it up as such.
I always thought your hand could move downward from the ball alright but if there was a significant upward 'throw' that was illegal.

Yes within reason, refs could blow for the hand being held but a quick release pass with the one hand could give a good advantage. Again a lot down to the referee which is the main problem for the armchair supporters ;)

I wouldn't be blowing up for a one handed pass in such circumstances
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muppet

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2014, 12:32:19 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on January 28, 2014, 12:13:44 PM
I'm not sure if you can throw it up as such.
I always thought your hand could move downward from the ball alright but if there was a significant upward 'throw' that was illegal.

Yes within reason, refs could blow for the hand being held but a quick release pass with the one hand could give a good advantage. Again a lot down to the referee which is the main problem for the armchair supporters ;)

I wouldn't be blowing up for a one handed pass in such circumstances

Good man. Very frustrating for a player to have his arm held and then penalised for throwing. This can get the player's own supporters up in arms. In those circumstances the next time that player will go down looking for the free. This will drive the opposition supporters up in arms.

You can easily see how a ref can end up being criticised by both sets of supporters.
(I am thinking Connacht Club Final for example).
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