Author Topic: GAA's Director General Paraic Duffy talks Sky deal and illegal manager payments  (Read 1729 times)

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Totally wrong.  You could not be more wrong. The GAA is run by county boards, then provincial councils and then Croke Park.  It is a bottom up organisation. The prizes for winning the All Ireland have remained the same for over 100 years.  Two silver cups.  Nothing else.  The GAA has honoured its responsibility nationally to get the best commercial opportunities for the association, 87% of which goes back to the counties who really need and value the revenue that they get from this source.  The GAA spends ALL of its coaching and games budget on enjoyment, participation for schoolchildren and clubs and NONE at elite county level.  It is proving virtually impossible to stem the rise in elitism in terms of training and fitness at county level.  This is driven by counties and county managers. In 2010, Paraic Duffy tried to change that, but the counties voted for it and then ignored it. They tried it with the closed season, but counties just ignored it too.  If anyone thinks the DG can change the GAA from an office in CP, then I wouldn't like to be going for his job.

Slow clap. Well said.

The only thing that is missing ( and which could be in place) are targets from CP to the provincial and county boards. For example, Expenditure 'v' income, Championships finished on time, No of summer camps etc. No of children engaged in coaching initiatives.

CP should be setting targets and then holding the relevant boards accountable. And there should be a penalty. e.g. if a county is running at a loss withhold / delay grants until they have a plan in place to bring the accounts into control.

I think that CP should set the deadline for club championship semi-finals and finals, and if the county is not meeting those commitments then they should be hit with a penalty. 

This is how real life and business works, it should be the same for the GAA

CP set out the dates for Club AI semi-finals and finals. The Provincial councils know they need to have their representatives in place for that and work their fixtures accordingly. The counties then know when they need to have their clubs representatives in place and work from there.

Surely if a county is regularly having issues with this it's something for the clubs to sort out with the County board and nothing to do with Croke Park, although it does highlight poor governance on the County Boards side.

And that is exactly why talking about a 5 month intercounty season is rubbish. It finishes in September and that impacts all counties. For example, the Leinster council set dates for their championships, which gives enough time for any county that may be in the all Ireland final. This year the Westmeath senior football championship was elongated because they had too much time. Changed the gap from end of group stages to knock outs from the planned 2 weeks to 5 weeks. If this had not happened then the eventual county champions would have been idle too long before Leinster 1/4 final.

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Totally wrong.  You could not be more wrong. The GAA is run by county boards, then provincial councils and then Croke Park.  It is a bottom up organisation. The prizes for winning the All Ireland have remained the same for over 100 years.  Two silver cups.  Nothing else.  The GAA has honoured its responsibility nationally to get the best commercial opportunities for the association, 87% of which goes back to the counties who really need and value the revenue that they get from this source.  The GAA spends ALL of its coaching and games budget on enjoyment, participation for schoolchildren and clubs and NONE at elite county level.  It is proving virtually impossible to stem the rise in elitism in terms of training and fitness at county level.  This is driven by counties and county managers. In 2010, Paraic Duffy tried to change that, but the counties voted for it and then ignored it. They tried it with the closed season, but counties just ignored it too.  If anyone thinks the DG can change the GAA from an office in CP, then I wouldn't like to be going for his job.
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He is saying all the right things now that he is leaving the job. However it's best to judge a man by his actions and he has done nothing to arrest the slide in decreasing playing numbers and general apathy at adult level. The elite have flourished and revenue has become king at the expense of everything else. Padraig Duffy is a decent man but he can't hide from the fact that he has presided over this era where the GAA has slipped further away from its core values and grass roots membership. No amount of blame shifting or passing the responsibility elsewhere can cover the fact that the correct leadership did not come from the top.

What a load of shtye, this isn't the 60's where playing for your club and going to mass was mandatory.  Words like grassroots, core values and ethos are bandied around like some shining beacon, great ra ra stuff but ignores the reality of modern day life.  I said this before, how many clubs were richer before he took over?  If you don't change you get left behind, just ask the pope.   
The club is still the lifeblood of the parish and long may it continue but the gaa as an organization can't remain in the past no matter how much some of us would like it to.
As someone who lives overseas, I can tell you the Gaa has made great strides internationally in terms of player numbers, clubs, facilities and competitions none of which really existed in the good old days.
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Great post!

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Itís the money that senior IC generates that the lifeblood of the GAA. Without it the whole sandcastle collapses.

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Totally wrong.  You could not be more wrong. The GAA is run by county boards, then provincial councils and then Croke Park.  It is a bottom up organisation. The prizes for winning the All Ireland have remained the same for over 100 years.  Two silver cups.  Nothing else.  The GAA has honoured its responsibility nationally to get the best commercial opportunities for the association, 87% of which goes back to the counties who really need and value the revenue that they get from this source.  The GAA spends ALL of its coaching and games budget on enjoyment, participation for schoolchildren and clubs and NONE at elite county level.  It is proving virtually impossible to stem the rise in elitism in terms of training and fitness at county level.  This is driven by counties and county managers. In 2010, Paraic Duffy tried to change that, but the counties voted for it and then ignored it. They tried it with the closed season, but counties just ignored it too.  If anyone thinks the DG can change the GAA from an office in CP, then I wouldn't like to be going for his job.

Thanks for that Paraic.

Trying to put out a fire by throwing petrol on it. What his tenure will be most remembered for will be the fact that he oversaw the financial doping of Dublin GAA and fiddled while the GAA burned. He's quibbling over managers doing a job, while pouring money into Dublin, leaving us with a shockingly one-sided Leinster competition and heading that way in the All Ireland.

All teams have cycles, they say, but if Dublin continue to get the benefits not being given to other counties, where's the fair play in that?

Car sponsor indeed. They didn't have a car f**king sponsor when getting beaten by Laois in 2003 or Westmeath in 2004. The Financial Doping will be his legacy. I hope he's proud of it.

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In the last week I have been accused of being Paraic Duffy and Ray D'Arcy!  ;D ;D ;D