Pat McEnaney wants more players sent off!

[Plain of the Herbs]

Which is a direct contradiction of Rory Hanniffy's opinion on Championshio Matters last Thursday when RH pointed outt that there was cynical play in modern hurling, particularly under the dropping ball but that it was much more covert than the football 'rugby tackle' and more difficult to detect.

Daithi 'hurling man' Regan weighs in.

http://www.thescore.ie/daithi-regan-they-need-to-leave-the-game-of-hurling-alone-1033458-Aug2013/

There's a problem in football with the tackle, with cynical play and not just with the likes of Tyrone but with all teams. Hurling doesn't have that problem, we've a great game that doesn't need to be tampered with.
In hurling, you should only get sent off for pulling a stroke, hurling people know that and the top players don't go out to pull strokes, they go out to play the game they love.

[Bord na Mona man]

When something equivalent happens in football - like midfielders being tampered with under kick outs, there are all sorts of cries for the mark to be introduced or a limit on tacklers.
In hurling the casual eye doesn't notice and the insiders that do notice are often complicit.

The term "man's game" must be hurling's equivalent of Godwin's Law when it comes to rules discussion.

Which is a direct contradiction of Rory Hanniffy's opinion on Championshio Matters last Thursday when RH pointed outt that there was cynical play in modern hurling, particularly under the dropping ball but that it was much more covert than the football 'rugby tackle' and more difficult to detect.

Daithi 'hurling man' Regan weighs in.

http://www.thescore.ie/daithi-regan-they-need-to-leave-the-game-of-hurling-alone-1033458-Aug2013/

There's a problem in football with the tackle, with cynical play and not just with the likes of Tyrone but with all teams. Hurling doesn't have that problem, we've a great game that doesn't need to be tampered with.
In hurling, you should only get sent off for pulling a stroke, hurling people know that and the top players don't go out to pull strokes, they go out to play the game they love.

[INDIANA]

When something equivalent happens in football - like midfielders being tampered with under kick outs, there are all sorts of cries for the mark to be introduced or a limit on tacklers.
In hurling the casual eye doesn't notice and the insiders that do notice are often complicit.

The term "man's game" must be hurling's equivalent of Godwin's Law when it comes to rules discussion.

Which is a direct contradiction of Rory Hanniffy's opinion on Championshio Matters last Thursday when RH pointed outt that there was cynical play in modern hurling, particularly under the dropping ball but that it was much more covert than the football 'rugby tackle' and more difficult to detect.

Daithi 'hurling man' Regan weighs in.

http://www.thescore.ie/daithi-regan-they-need-to-leave-the-game-of-hurling-alone-1033458-Aug2013/

There's a problem in football with the tackle, with cynical play and not just with the likes of Tyrone but with all teams. Hurling doesn't have that problem, we've a great game that doesn't need to be tampered with.
In hurling, you should only get sent off for pulling a stroke, hurling people know that and the top players don't go out to pull strokes, they go out to play the game they love.

Its a different sport. The mistake the GAA makes is having people adjudicating on referees who don't know the working end of a hurley from a shovel.

You can't have the same rules for both codes because they are different games.

Hurling isn't blighted by the same ills football is. It has it's own problems but they are minor compared to football in my view.

The three sendings off in the last 3 games have been a joke.

[Plain of the Herbs]

OK, is it now getting to the stage where certain players, certain actions in certain places should be exempt from sending off?

Top players (eg H Shefflin),
In a Munster Final,
In the first few minutes,
Minors.

Have I left anything out?

[INDIANA]

OK, is it now getting to the stage where certain players, certain actions in certain places should be exempt from sending off?

Top players (eg H Shefflin),
In a Munster Final,
In the first few minutes,
Minors.

Have I left anything out?

Shefflin didn't deserve the line. It was lunacy. Common sense is part of refereeing.

The minor sending offs were a joke at the weekend as was ROD's

[Bord na Mona man]

OK, is it now getting to the stage where certain players, certain actions in certain places should be exempt from sending off?

Top players (eg H Shefflin),
In a Munster Final,
In the first few minutes,
Minors.

Have I left anything out?

Other exemptions:
Where the game was "an otherwise sporting contest"
The first yellow was picked up early on
The player has trained hard for several months
The player never got sent off before in his life
The team is already down to 14
The game is in the balance
The team are already losing heavily

None of these are in the rule book, but can be filed under 'Common sense'.

[Plain of the Herbs]

The lunacy was on Shefflin's part.  First he struck with the hurl.  The second he put the hurl around the man's neck.  And in case anyone thinks such fouls didn't warrant sanction before there were cards in red and yellow, I recall Roy Mannion being sent straight off 20 years ago for a similar challenge on Adrian Ronan.

I was at a match early on Sunday and didn't see the Minor sendings off.

Ryan O'Dwyer was corrently sent off for two frontal charges.  He can't have any excuses.

Explain common sense in the context of refereeing?  I was talking to a fella in a pub Friday night who said "Shefflin was harshly sent off - according to the rules he should have been, but really he shouldn't".  I mean, come on, like.

And would TV ever stop showing collisions in slow motion, making them look like they are little bumps.  Show them at normal speed.

And just because you don't see the cynical foul doesn't make it acceptable.  I'd accept the word of a current hurler like Rory Hanniffy (who is one of hurling's more stylish players) before I'd listen so some oul codger who gets paid to talk.

Shefflin didn't deserve the line. It was lunacy. Common sense is part of refereeing.

The minor sending offs were a joke at the weekend as was ROD's

[INDIANA]

OK, is it now getting to the stage where certain players, certain actions in certain places should be exempt from sending off?

Top players (eg H Shefflin),
In a Munster Final,
In the first few minutes,
Minors.

Have I left anything out?

Other exemptions:
Where the game was "an otherwise sporting contest"
The first yellow was picked up early on
The player has trained hard for several months
The player never got sent off before in his life
The team is already down to 14
The game is in the balance
The team are already losing heavily

None of these are in the rule book, but can be filed under 'Common sense'.

Are you prepared to listen to hurling fan's views or just post your own generalised rubbish which represents all of the above quoted post.

[Plain of the Herbs]

And still  no sign of anyone ever bringing motions to congress to legalise the frontal charge, tipping helmets, holding hands under the dropping ball, taking eight steps and other stuff that comes under 'common sense'.

[INDIANA]

The lunacy was on Shefflin's part.  First he struck with the hurl.  The second he put the hurl around the man's neck.  And in case anyone thinks such fouls didn't warrant sanction before there were cards in red and yellow, I recall Roy Mannion being sent straight off 20 years ago for a similar challenge on Adrian Ronan.

I was at a match early on Sunday and didn't see the Minor sendings off.

Ryan O'Dwyer was corrently sent off for two frontal charges.  He can't have any excuses.

Explain common sense in the context of refereeing?  I was talking to a fella in a pub Friday night who said "Shefflin was harshly sent off - according to the rules he should have been, but really he shouldn't".  I mean, come on, like.

And would TV ever stop showing collisions in slow motion, making them look like they are little bumps.  Show them at normal speed.

And just because you don't see the cynical foul doesn't make it acceptable.  I'd accept the word of a current hurler like Rory Hanniffy (who is one of hurling's more stylish players) before I'd listen so some oul codger who gets paid to talk.

Shefflin didn't deserve the line. It was lunacy. Common sense is part of refereeing.

The minor sending offs were a joke at the weekend as was ROD's

Number one - the first frontal charge hit the cork lad on the point of the shoulder. The fact that it was front or otherwise is a non-entity. The contact was on the shoulder. So it wasn't a yellow card. Plus a frontal shoulder charge is defined as being cautionable on the second offence in the rule book.

Number two. - I can't see how slight contact on the elbow which Shefflin was initially booked for = a yellow card. I never played a hurling game without getting a scratch and I picked many bangs and flicks from hurleys. That is not even a free IMO. A swipe is an entirely different animal which can injure a player and a player should be rightly cautioned for it.

If you don't like hurling follow something else would be my advice or feck off and watch football where you'll be introduced to divers day out instead of watching real men ply their trade which is what we got on Sunday.

The mistake the GAA make every year is thinking Gaelic Football and Hurling are the same sports because they exist under the same sporting organisation's umbrella. They have nothing in common except the size of  the pitch and the goal-posts.

[Bord na Mona man]

OK, is it now getting to the stage where certain players, certain actions in certain places should be exempt from sending off?

Top players (eg H Shefflin),
In a Munster Final,
In the first few minutes,
Minors.

Have I left anything out?

Other exemptions:
Where the game was "an otherwise sporting contest"
The first yellow was picked up early on
The player has trained hard for several months
The player never got sent off before in his life
The team is already down to 14
The game is in the balance
The team are already losing heavily

None of these are in the rule book, but can be filed under 'Common sense'.

Are you prepared to listen to hurling fan's views or just post your own generalised rubbish which represents all of the above quoted post.

At least we're both agreed that the above sentiments are generalised rubbish. 
Pity there can't be a proper technical rules discussion with resort to generic and meaningless bluffery like "it's not gaelic football", "it's a man's game", "real men", "let the play flow".

[INDIANA]

OK, is it now getting to the stage where certain players, certain actions in certain places should be exempt from sending off?

Top players (eg H Shefflin),
In a Munster Final,
In the first few minutes,
Minors.

Have I left anything out?

Other exemptions:
Where the game was "an otherwise sporting contest"
The first yellow was picked up early on
The player has trained hard for several months
The player never got sent off before in his life
The team is already down to 14
The game is in the balance
The team are already losing heavily

None of these are in the rule book, but can be filed under 'Common sense'.

Are you prepared to listen to hurling fan's views or just post your own generalised rubbish which represents all of the above quoted post.

At least we're both agreed that the above sentiments are generalised rubbish. 
Pity there can't be a proper technical rules discussion with resort to generic and meaningless bluffery like "it's not gaelic football", "it's a man's game", "real men", "let the play flow".

There can't be a proper technical rules discussion with a clown like you because from your meanderings you don't understand the game.

You don't even know the rule book for God's sake.

Sunday was a magnificent spectacle of the best game in the world. But hurling has a problem with football referees sticking their noses in where its not needed.

[Plain of the Herbs]

Right back at ya.

There can't be a proper technical rules discussion with a clown like you because from your meanderings you don't understand the game.

You don't even know the rule book for God's sake.

[Bord na Mona man]

OK, is it now getting to the stage where certain players, certain actions in certain places should be exempt from sending off?

Top players (eg H Shefflin),
In a Munster Final,
In the first few minutes,
Minors.

Have I left anything out?

Other exemptions:
Where the game was "an otherwise sporting contest"
The first yellow was picked up early on
The player has trained hard for several months
The player never got sent off before in his life
The team is already down to 14
The game is in the balance
The team are already losing heavily

None of these are in the rule book, but can be filed under 'Common sense'.

Are you prepared to listen to hurling fan's views or just post your own generalised rubbish which represents all of the above quoted post.

At least we're both agreed that the above sentiments are generalised rubbish. 
Pity there can't be a proper technical rules discussion with resort to generic and meaningless bluffery like "it's not gaelic football", "it's a man's game", "real men", "let the play flow".

There can't be a proper technical rules discussion with a clown like you because from your meanderings you don't understand the game.

You don't even know the rule book for God's sake.

Sunday was a magnificent spectacle of the best game in the world. But hurling has a problem with football referees sticking their noses in where its not needed.

The rule book? Be careful what you wish for...

[INDIANA]

OK, is it now getting to the stage where certain players, certain actions in certain places should be exempt from sending off?

Top players (eg H Shefflin),
In a Munster Final,
In the first few minutes,
Minors.

Have I left anything out?

Other exemptions:
Where the game was "an otherwise sporting contest"
The first yellow was picked up early on
The player has trained hard for several months
The player never got sent off before in his life
The team is already down to 14
The game is in the balance
The team are already losing heavily

None of these are in the rule book, but can be filed under 'Common sense'.

Are you prepared to listen to hurling fan's views or just post your own generalised rubbish which represents all of the above quoted post.

At least we're both agreed that the above sentiments are generalised rubbish. 
Pity there can't be a proper technical rules discussion with resort to generic and meaningless bluffery like "it's not gaelic football", "it's a man's game", "real men", "let the play flow".

There can't be a proper technical rules discussion with a clown like you because from your meanderings you don't understand the game.

You don't even know the rule book for God's sake.

Sunday was a magnificent spectacle of the best game in the world. But hurling has a problem with football referees sticking their noses in where its not needed.

The rule book? Be careful what you wish for...

Are ypu on the sauce?