The Palestine thread

Started by give her dixie, October 17, 2012, 01:29:42 PM

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foxcommander

Quote from: Mike Sheehy on August 26, 2014, 09:14:53 PM
global anti-semitism

I hate the way that phrase is used to describe anyone who doesnt agree with israel.

Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

Mike Sheehy

Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 09:29:53 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on August 26, 2014, 09:14:53 PM
It  is obvious you dont care about peace. You just view the conflict as a vehicle to further global anti-semitism which is why this development is very, very bad for you.

You'll have to put away those yellow badges you had ready to go. The global pogrom has been delayed.
They make a desert and call it peace. And anyone who objects hates jews.
That antisemitism canard of yours is getting a bit tired.

No, not everyone..but most definitely you and GHD. The evidence is overwhelming.

btw....how was Cathar country. What brought you to that part of the world for a holiday ?

seafoid

#2852
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on August 26, 2014, 09:40:52 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 09:29:53 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on August 26, 2014, 09:14:53 PM
It  is obvious you dont care about peace. You just view the conflict as a vehicle to further global anti-semitism which is why this development is very, very bad for you.

You'll have to put away those yellow badges you had ready to go. The global pogrom has been delayed.
They make a desert and call it peace. And anyone who objects hates jews.
That antisemitism canard of yours is getting a bit tired.

No, not everyone..but most definitely you and GHD. The evidence is overwhelming.

btw....how was Cathar country. What brought you to that part of the world for a holiday ?
I wanted to see if I could dig up some information to use against you on the internet. LOL

re anti-Semitism and your brave  campaign - I read yesterday in Der Spiegel that of 6500 SS men at Auschwitz a grand total of 49 were convicted in a court in Germany. 700 in Poland. The rest got away scot free.
One of the worst cases was Dr Lajos Schlinger . He knew this fellow r Capesius from Bayer who worked as a rep in the 1930s. He was sent to Auschwitz and who did he meet on the ramp only Capesius who was sorting out prisoners for processing.   Schlinger told him his wife was unwell. Capesius
assured him he'd take care of her. So Mrs Schlinger and their daughter went off with Capesisu who sent them straight to the gas chamber.


And according to you GHD and I are basically Capesius because we say the occupation is wrong.   You are so sad.

Germany paid massive compensation to holocaust survivors in Israel via the Israeli government,. Much of the money was siphoned off to build infrastructure in Israel. Thousands of holocaust survivors live in poverty in Israel. The lawyers involved got rich.

It's deeply depressing- those people were murdered and nobody really gave a f**k. Some Zionists even sent Jews to Auschwitz in order to get passes for a small proportion of the doomed to get out and go to Israel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Kastner

Israelis don't give a f**k about Gaza. Israel doesn't give a f**k about Shoah survivors. You don't give a f**k about Jews either.




   
In other news why have Kerry regressed this year ? The Dubs only beat them by a point last year.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Mike Sheehy

Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 09:56:18 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on August 26, 2014, 09:40:52 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 09:29:53 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on August 26, 2014, 09:14:53 PM
It  is obvious you dont care about peace. You just view the conflict as a vehicle to further global anti-semitism which is why this development is very, very bad for you.

You'll have to put away those yellow badges you had ready to go. The global pogrom has been delayed.
They make a desert and call it peace. And anyone who objects hates jews.
That antisemitism canard of yours is getting a bit tired.

No, not everyone..but most definitely you and GHD. The evidence is overwhelming.

btw....how was Cathar country. What brought you to that part of the world for a holiday ?
I wanted to see if I could dig up some information to use against you on the internet. LOL

re anti-Semitism and your brave  campaign - I read yesterday in Der Spiegel that of 6500 SS men at Auschwitz a grand total of 49 were convicted in a court in Germany. 700 in Poland. The rest got away scot free.
One of the worst cases was Dr Lajos Schlinger . He knew this business partner Capesius from Bayer when he worked as a rep in the 1930s. He was sent to Auschwitz and who did he meet on the ramp only Capesius.  Schlinger told him his wife was unwell. Capesius
assured him he'd take care of her. So Mrs Schlinger and their daughter went off with Capesisu who sent them straight to the gas chamber.


And according to you GHD and I are basically Capesius. You are so sad.

Germany paid massive compensation to holocaust survivors in Israel via the Israeli government,. Much of the money was siphoned off to build infrastructure in Israel. Thousands of holocaust survivors live in poverty in Israel. The lawyers involved got rich.

It's deeply depressing- those people were murdered and nobody really gave a f**k. Some Zionists even sent Jews to Auschwitz in order to get passes for a small proportion of the doomed to get out and go to Israel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Kastner

Israelis don't give a f**k about Gaza. Israel doesn't give a f**k about Shoah survivors. You don't give a f**k about Jews either.




   
In other news why have Kerry regressed this year ? The Dubs only beat them by a point last year.

tut, tut...what a rant. You are lashing out like a cornered rat.

Did you find the holy grail in Cathar country ?

seafoid

Do you want to wager on Israel breaking the terms of the ceasefire?. Put your money where your mouth is.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

macdanger2

Hopefully it will be a meaningful ceasefire and lead to an improvement in life in Gaza and eventually a lasting settlement between Palestine & Israel

seafoid

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.612622#

"In response to Tel Aviv University's recent letter "embrac[ing] the security forces" and threatening disciplinary action against students and employees expressing "hurtful and extremist statements" in social media, the university's social science department held a conference before a packed hall this week titled, "How to think about the war."

"We have to make an effort and cleanse the area of the endless security-oriented and patriotic talk, not only because we are sick and tired of it, but because it is designed to shut down and prevent thinking. Thinking is the most urgent thing in this war, and the most lacking. Many institutions are working to block it, like the media, for example," said the Hebrew Culture Department's Prof. Ishay Rosen-Zvi, who initiated the conference.

He told Haaretz, "After the letter from the university administration, we felt that we were being silenced. In addition, the public discourse in the media was uniform and monotonous, and we felt that we were being lied to all the time."

Leading GAAboard intellectual Mike Sheehy spoke at the conference and told the academics they were all Jew haters. He was escorted out of the hall by a psychiatric team.

During Operation Protective Edge, the administration sent out a letter stating, "Tel Aviv University embraces the security forces and condemns hurtful reactions on the social networks," and "strongly condemns hurtful and extremist statements which are being disseminated these days on the social networks, and which have no place in the public discourse." The letter also warned that the administration "will operate according to the disciplinary regulations applying to students and employees, in every case of a violation."
Hundreds of students, lecturers and auditors attended the conference, which was notable since this is summer vacation, and because the event was not publicized in mainstream media, only by word of mouth and on social networks.
'Very frightening'
In his speech, Rosen-Zvi said, "I want to single out two things that seem new and very frightening to me. First, the death of soldiers no longer creates the same public pressure as in the past. It's a new mechanism and different from what we knew, when coffins created a sense of revulsion that led to criticism and media pressure. It seems that now death creates togetherness and at the same time invites more death in order to justify it.
"Second," he said, "I want to single out the normality of violence against the left. At anti-war demonstrations in which I participated there were Kahanist gangs walking around shouting 'death to Arabs and leftists,' and chasing demonstrators to beat them up, and they did beat them up. People were afraid to disperse and avoided walking home alone. Nobody was shocked and they aren't now either, the condemnations were against extremism of all types, from both right and left, as though right-wing journalists also walk around with bodyguards." This last was a reference to Haaretz columnist Gideon Levy, who hired a bodyguard after receiving numerous threats over his critical writing and interviews about the war.

Prof. Menachem Lorberbaum, chairman of the graduate school of philosophy, criticized Givati Brigade commander Col. Ofer Winter, who reportedly justified the massive civilian casualties resulting from the assault on the Rafah area following the abduction of 2nd Lt. Hadar Goldin, who was later declared dead by Israeli authorities. Lorberbaum quoted Winter saying that "whoever kidnaps has to know that he will pay a price. It was not revenge. They simply started up with the wrong brigade. ... This population is hostage, but I think that it's also a partner. ... I'm not absolving them of responsibility so quickly.Said Lorberbaum: "These are very harsh words. Is there a difference between 'revenge' and starting up with 'the wrong brigade'? Does the glory of the Givati Brigade lie in the terrible killing of all the civilians? Didn't they stop being civilians the moment the brigade commander declared that the population is a partner? And who allowed him to do that? And who exactly among them [is a partner]? The children and infants? The women?" "
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

Quote from: macdanger2 on August 27, 2014, 07:46:30 AM
Hopefully it will be a meaningful ceasefire and lead to an improvement in life in Gaza and eventually a lasting settlement between Palestine & Israel
+1

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.612918

"The Palestinians plan to turn to the United Nations Security Council on September 15 to demand a deadline be set for Israel's withdrawal to 1967 borders, senior Fatah official Nabil Shaath told the Palestinian news agency Ma'an on Thursday.
If the Security Council rejects the initiative, Shaath said, the Palestinians would open their case against Israel at the International Criminal Court."


"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

give her dixie

A great article by Max Blumenthal who is in Gaza and interviewed Palestinians who were used by Israel as human shields as they went on a murderous rampage

http://www.alternet.org/gaza-residents-share-monstrous-allegations-abuse-israeli-soldiers?paging=off&current_page=1#bookmark
next stop, September 10, for number 4......


theskull1

Heard this on the radio last night. Thought it a very interesting and telling discussion. There will never be peace in this area

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04fzfxz

Programme is on 'who should own Jerusalem'
In inviting a pro-Israeli rabbi and a Palestinian performance poet to agree what they disagree about, I try to make the conversation move somewhere new and interesting. But despite my entreaties the protagonists keep not only asserting the rightness of their own cause but seeking to rubbish the position of their opponent.
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

seafoid

Yanks veto Palestinian statehood - money comes before principles again

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/30/un-security-council-rejects-palestinian-statehood-bid

You have to laugh at Power telling the Palestinians to go back to negotiations.

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2011/01/27/erekat-finally-hits-mark#

"Livni is recorded confirming what Palestinians have always accused Israeli governments of doing: creating facts on the ground to prevent the possibility of a viable Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza."
When Mr Erekat asked Ms Livni: "Short of your jet fighters in my sky and your army on my territory, can I choose where I secure external defence?". She replied: "No. In order to create your state you have to agree in advance with Israel – you have to choose not to have the right of choice afterwards. These are the basic pillars."

"Israel takes more land [so] that the Palestinian state will be impossible . . . the Israel policy is to take more and more land day after day and that at the end of the day we'll say that is impossible, we already have the land and we cannot create the state". She conceded that it had been "the policy of the government for a really long time".

Another choice comment from Livni, this one from a Nov. 13, 2007 meeting, where she and Abu Ala (Qurei) were discussing what should be included in the "terms of reference" for the upcoming Annapolis meeting (the eighth meeting on this question):
AA: International law?

Livni : NO. I was the Minister of Justice. I am a lawyer...But I am against law — international law in particular. Law in general. If we want to make the agreement smaller, can we just drop some of these issues? Like international law, this will make the agreements easier.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

give her dixie

Palestine to join International Criminal Court

Decision could clear way for filing of war crimes case but may trigger harsh Israeli response

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/palestine-to-join-international-criminal-court-1.2052077
next stop, September 10, for number 4......

seafoid

Quote from: give her dixie on December 31, 2014, 05:42:32 PM
Palestine to join International Criminal Court

Decision could clear way for filing of war crimes case but may trigger harsh Israeli response

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/palestine-to-join-international-criminal-court-1.2052077
He finally did it. Fair play.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU