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give her dixie

Israel, Palestine agree on long-term Gaza truce – Hamas spokesman

A long-term truce in Gaza has been agreed with Israel ending seven weeks of fighting, according to Hamas officials. An announcement on the extended ceasefire is to be expected in Egypt.

"An agreement has been reached between the two sides and we are awaiting the announcement from Cairo to determine the zero hour for implementation," said the spokesman, Sami Abu Zuhri.

An anonymous Palestinian official also told AFP that the contacts working on the issue in Egypt's capital "agreed a permanent cease-fire, a [deal to] end the blockade and a guarantee that Gaza's demands and needs will be met."

Israel has so far declined to comment on the report.

However, a spokesman for a group called the Palestinian Popular Resistance Committees – which has been responsible for directing rockets into Israel – told Reuters that Egypt could be announcing the news within two hours.

Earlier, Hamas' deputy leader in Cairo, Moussa Abu Marzoul, told Haaretz: "The negotiations have ended and we have reached understandings that underscore the steadfast stance of the Palestinian people with the victory of the resistance."

"We are waiting for an official announcement to set the final hour and announce a cease-fire and an end to Israeli aggression."

http://rt.com/news/182888-gaza-truce-israel-agree/
next stop, September 10, for number 4......

seafoid

Quote from: give her dixie on August 26, 2014, 03:20:41 PM
Israel, Palestine agree on long-term Gaza truce – Hamas spokesman

A long-term truce in Gaza has been agreed with Israel ending seven weeks of fighting, according to Hamas officials. An announcement on the extended ceasefire is to be expected in Egypt.

"An agreement has been reached between the two sides and we are awaiting the announcement from Cairo to determine the zero hour for implementation," said the spokesman, Sami Abu Zuhri.

An anonymous Palestinian official also told AFP that the contacts working on the issue in Egypt's capital "agreed a permanent cease-fire, a [deal to] end the blockade and a guarantee that Gaza's demands and needs will be met."

Israel has so far declined to comment on the report.

However, a spokesman for a group called the Palestinian Popular Resistance Committees – which has been responsible for directing rockets into Israel – told Reuters that Egypt could be announcing the news within two hours.

Earlier, Hamas' deputy leader in Cairo, Moussa Abu Marzoul, told Haaretz: "The negotiations have ended and we have reached understandings that underscore the steadfast stance of the Palestinian people with the victory of the resistance."

"We are waiting for an official announcement to set the final hour and announce a cease-fire and an end to Israeli aggression."

http://rt.com/news/182888-gaza-truce-israel-agree/
Did Netanyahu get Bennett to agree to it?  Will have to see it to believe it. 
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

glens abu

Looks like great news coming out of Gaza,let's hope it's true.

give her dixie

next stop, September 10, for number 4......

give her dixie

next stop, September 10, for number 4......

seafoid

Quote from: glens abu on August 26, 2014, 05:56:06 PM
Looks like great news coming out of Gaza,let's hope it's true.
I bet the Israelis will break the terms of the agreement. No point in celebrating if the siege is not lifted.
the Israelis are experts in bad faith and the harder discussions are deferred for a month.
In 2005 they promised bush that they would open the link between Gaza and the West Bank.  They promised again in 2009 and 2012 .
Never happened.

the Israeli government will probably fall if the siege is lifted.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Mike Sheehy

This is great news and should be welcomed unequivocally by anyone who has a genuine interest in peace.

seafoid

Quote from: Mike Sheehy on August 26, 2014, 06:41:44 PM
This is great news and should be welcomed unequivocally by anyone who has a genuine interest in peace.
Not if it goes back to the siege.
Israel has a history of breaking its pledges.
I bet they'll do the same again.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.612566
"Only 38 percent of Israelis are satisfied with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's performance as the Gaza fighting approaches its 50th day, according to a poll for Channel 2 by market research firm Shiluv Millward Brown."

and he's going to lift the siege, is he ? 
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

#2843

http://mjrosenberg.net/2014/08/26/the-hamas-victory/
"The Hamas Victory

August 26, 2014 UncategorizedGaza, Gaza ceasefire, Gaza truce, Hamas, Israel Hamas ceasefire, Netanyahu, truce   
 

After 50 days, it is pretty clear that this is not the war Netanyahu wanted.

The very fact that it continues after 50 days is itself proof of that. And so is the truce that ends the killing, a truce that mighty Israel is signing with Hamas.

The polls in Israel reflect it too. Down from 82% approval a few weeks ago, Netanyahu is now at 38%.

The reason Netanyahu's support is crashing is not public revulsion at the killing. There is hardly any of that.  It is that the killing is not working. And all Netanyahu can do is kill more. There is no strategy because Netanyahu rejects the obvious one: ending the occupation.

Israelis are waking to the realization that the very fact that Hamas is still fighting back after seven weeks means that Israel's security is an illusion.

This is an incredible victory for Hamas.

By demonstrating that it can disrupt Israeli life whenever it chooses, it shakes Israelis to the core. I mean, what is Hamas anyway? It is, according to the Israeli government, nothing but a ragtag bunch of terrorists with crappy unsophisticated weapons. It's not Iran, not even Hizbullah.
And it has stopped Israel in its tracks. Tourists are staying away. Billions are being spent. Israel's own arsenal is being depleted. The economy is hurting.
But worst of all is the growing perception that Israel cannot be secure at home unless and until Palestinians are secure too.
Israel, the safe refuge for Jews, is now the most dangerous place to be Jewish in the world, although growing anti-Semitism produced by Netanyahu's war is making the diaspora less safe for Jews too.
In the history of Israel, nothing (including the Yom Kippur War of 1973 which, despite initial losses, Israel won big) has been as disastrous for Israel as this war.
The illusion of Israeli security is gone. And that means that either Israel accepts the obvious alternative–ending the occupation–or this is Israel's future, a future that, ultimately, means no future at all.
Hamas has already accomplished what no Arab army ever did, it destroyed the illusion that Israelis can keep partying in Tel Aviv without a thought about the people being crushed a few miles away.
The party is over."

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.612468
"The United States cautiously welcomes the latest Israeli-Palestinian ceasefire and urges both sides to comply with the terms of the agreement,
the State Department said on Tuesday.
"We call on all parties to fully and completely comply with its terms, and hope very much that the ceasefire will prove to be durable and sustainable," State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki told reporters at a daily briefing.
"We view this as an opportunity, not a certainty," Psaki said. "There is a long road ahead and we're aware of that, and we're going into this eyes wide open," she added. (Reuters)

7:04 P.M. Ministers Naftali Bennett, Avigdor Lieberman and Yitzhak Aharonovich announce their opposition to the cease-fire deal with Hamas. (Barak Ravid)
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Mike Sheehy

Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 06:46:30 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on August 26, 2014, 06:41:44 PM
This is great news and should be welcomed unequivocally by anyone who has a genuine interest in peace.
Not if it goes back to the siege.
Israel has a history of breaking its pledges.
I bet they'll do the same again.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.612566
"Only 38 percent of Israelis are satisfied with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's performance as the Gaza fighting approaches its 50th day, according to a poll for Channel 2 by market research firm Shiluv Millward Brown."

and he's going to lift the siege, is he ?

So , just for the record, you are against this ceasefire and you want Hamas to continue launching rockets (with the inevitable Israeli backlash) until......??

Mike Sheehy

Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 07:00:01 PM

...... although growing anti-Semitism produced by Netanyahu's war is making the diaspora less safe for Jews too.


and this is exactly why you are the only poster on Gaaboard that does not welcome this ceasefire.

seafoid

Quote from: Mike Sheehy on August 26, 2014, 07:12:36 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 07:00:01 PM

...... although growing anti-Semitism produced by Netanyahu's war is making the diaspora less safe for Jews too.


and this is exactly why you are the only poster on Gaaboard that does not welcome this ceasefire.
If it leads to the end of the siege it'll be great. If it doesn't it'll be worthless.
Netanyahu really fucked up this time.

Anyone with a genuine interest in peace would surely want the siege to be lifted.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

Quote from: Mike Sheehy on August 26, 2014, 07:07:39 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 06:46:30 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on August 26, 2014, 06:41:44 PM
This is great news and should be welcomed unequivocally by anyone who has a genuine interest in peace.
Not if it goes back to the siege.
Israel has a history of breaking its pledges.
I bet they'll do the same again.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.612566
"Only 38 percent of Israelis are satisfied with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's performance as the Gaza fighting approaches its 50th day, according to a poll for Channel 2 by market research firm Shiluv Millward Brown."

and he's going to lift the siege, is he ?

So , just for the record, you are against this ceasefire and you want Hamas to continue launching rockets (with the inevitable Israeli backlash) until......??
if the siege isn't lifted it will be back to rockets I bet.  Quiet is good but not if it leads back to the siege. Gaza has had enough of israeli bullshit.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Mike Sheehy

It  is obvious you dont care about peace. You just view the conflict as a vehicle to further global anti-semitism which is why this development is very, very bad for you.

You'll have to put away those yellow badges you had ready to go. The global pogrom has been delayed.

seafoid

Quote from: Mike Sheehy on August 26, 2014, 09:14:53 PM
It  is obvious you dont care about peace. You just view the conflict as a vehicle to further global anti-semitism which is why this development is very, very bad for you.

You'll have to put away those yellow badges you had ready to go. The global pogrom has been delayed.
They make a desert and call it peace. And anyone who objects hates jews.
That antisemitism canard of yours is getting a bit tired.

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU