The Palestine thread

[AZOffaly]

OK, fair enough. I see the point. But Israel still "responds" to the Hamas "response". Israel is the instigator here, but Hamas keeps giving it senseless material to use as propaganda. Why?

By the way I have heard phrases like 'Hamas fired rockets into Tel Aviv tonight in retaliation for a sustained Israeli bombing on Gaza' or whatever, so I'm not sure what you've said is 100% accurate.

[Íseal agus crua isteach a]

For anyone living in America you can call the White house at No. is 202/456-1111.

Do not press any buttons but just hold until a volunteer asks 'What is your brief comment for the president?"

A good comment is "Stop using my taxes to fund Israel's genocide of Gaza." Act for America; stop acting for Israel. Thats of course if you live there.

Thats the message I left. I do believe their interested to know what people on the ground are saying.

[seafoid]

That's true, and I agree he goes OTT at times. Also I'm going to stop speaking for him because at the end of the day, he's well able to speak for himself.

But aside from the fall out ye've been having, are you in general agreement with the points he's started to articulate in the manner above?

I think it's too late for 2 states. The points are fine but he's not about making points. His specialty is trolling. You Nazi.

[seafoid]

Norman Finkelstein: "For 20 days I have sat in front of this computer like a mad man. Tomorrow I will be arrested and arrested and arrested until this madness ends." 

He explains the legal situation very well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIg2XeSrx18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccenVc7Bq5Q

[give her dixie]

Norman was true to his word and got arrested today along with 25 others

[AZOffaly]

That's true, and I agree he goes OTT at times. Also I'm going to stop speaking for him because at the end of the day, he's well able to speak for himself.

But aside from the fall out ye've been having, are you in general agreement with the points he's started to articulate in the manner above?

I think it's too late for 2 states. The points are fine but he's not about making points. His specialty is trolling. You Nazi.

I'm a Nazi?

[seafoid]

That's true, and I agree he goes OTT at times. Also I'm going to stop speaking for him because at the end of the day, he's well able to speak for himself.

But aside from the fall out ye've been having, are you in general agreement with the points he's started to articulate in the manner above?

I think it's too late for 2 states. The points are fine but he's not about making points. His specialty is trolling. You Nazi.

I'm a Nazi?

That was a joke. That's how Sheehy operates. Did you like the experience ?

[seafoid]

An analysis by Unitar/Unosat, an agency of the United Nations, found that about 600 structures had been destroyed in the Shejaiya neighborhood of Gaza City in the first two and a half weeks of the Israeli incursion. Israeli officials have said that one of the goals of the incursion is to destroy tunnels leading from Gaza to Israel. Shejaiya has been the site of some of the worst fighting. JULY 27, 2014

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/07/27/world/middleeast/assessing-the-damage-and-destruction-in-gaza.html?_r=1

The Israelis are destroying everything in an attempt to get the people to abandon Hamas. 
Would that have worked with the IRA ? Would Tyrone or South Down have turned unionist ?

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=24740

Very unlikely

[seafoid]

Video of the attack inside Israel yesterday when 4 soldiers were killed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NAhozItSq0

This is why Israel bombed the shit out of Gaza last night.

[Itchy]

Sheehy has lots of points, like me he is drawing some needed attention to the one sided commentary of seafood and Dixie, both of whom find it impossible to criticise hamas who fire rockets indiscriminately at civilian areas if Israel, also a war crime. The fact they are never landing is irrelevant. Israel is a better equipped to do the horrendous crimes they do

[Wildweasel74]

Exactly how many of this missiles have landed in Israel, with this weapons system , they have handily left out the % hitting Israel out of the thousands of rockets fired, if very little is getting through they got no excuse for entering Palestine at all. Some of the Comments on the CNN news page is terrible about grazing Gaza to the ground, these clowns learn nothing from the Ghettos in warsaw and Poland and them getting grazed to the ground.

[imtommygunn]

First of all let me prefix this with what israel is doing is shocking just to clear that up. The lies, the media campaign, the unashamed genocide, the murder of children ,and the list goes on, is beyond words.

Sheehy from what i've noticed in other threads likes trolling but, asides from the insults and nazi comments which have been way out of order,makes valid points.

His points really circle around anti semitism and the fact that you two boys display many of those traits.There is an irony to it - anti semitism creates zionists. What you do by being like that is create a full circle which never gets broken. That point seems a bit beyond the grasp of some to be honest.

Israeli people are not sub human. Elements of people in israel are and most definitely those behind this.

I work with an israeli and he is very concerned for his families safety but he also sees the wrong in what is going on.

If you watch the bbc news or sky news all you get is pro israel. If you come here it's continued copy and pastes of pro palestinian articles. I very much doubt anyone reads the stuff you boys even copy and paste any more.

[seafoid]

Sheehy has lots of points, like me he is drawing some needed attention to the one sided commentary of seafood and Dixie, both of whom find it impossible to criticise hamas who fire rockets indiscriminately at civilian areas if Israel, also a war crime. The fact they are never landing is irrelevant. Israel is a better equipped to do the horrendous crimes they do

It's self determination, Itchy.
Israel will never give the Palestinians their freedom.
They are trying to blow everything up in Gaza so the people will lie down and go back to the siege.
And under international law the palestinians have the right to use force in self determination.
So I'm with Hamas on this one.

Israel is completely wrong on Gaza.
The occupying power does not have the right to use force against self determination.

[seafoid]

First of all let me prefix this with what israel is doing is shocking just to clear that up. The lies, the media campaign, the unashamed genocide, the murder of children ,and the list goes on, is beyond words.

Sheehy from what i've noticed in other threads likes trolling but, asides from the insults and nazi comments which have been way out of order,makes valid points.

His points really circle around anti semitism and the fact that you two boys display many of those traits.There is an irony to it - anti semitism creates zionists. What you do by being like that is create a full circle which never gets broken. That point seems a bit beyond the grasp of some to be honest.

Israeli people are not sub human. Elements of people in israel are and most definitely those behind this.

I work with an israeli and he is very concerned for his families safety but he also sees the wrong in what is going on.

If you watch the bbc news or sky news all you get is pro israel. If you come here it's continued copy and pastes of pro palestinian articles. I very much doubt anyone reads the stuff you boys even copy and paste any more.

Israelis are human but f**king stupid. They think they can run an apartheid system forever.
Zionism isn't Judaism either. Judaism is much better than Israel.

[imtommygunn]

Well the unfortunate reality at the minute is that there are no international powers willing to challenge them on what they are doing.

They're more interested in russia it seems.