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Re: The Minister, the Commissioner and the whistleblower
« Reply #240 on: November 14, 2018, 07:29:58 AM »
the Tribunal made clear deliberations that testimony given by her claiming to be completely in the dark to the campaign orchestrated by Callinan was simply not credible.
That was the finding!
And the tribunal only covered her time as assistant commissioner, not when she was in charge of the gardai.
Absolutely. Taylor hated O'Sullivan and told lies about her, but people saying that means O'Sullivan was innocent of all wrongdoing are talking absolute nonsense. She wasn't the ringleader but she knew exactly what was going on .

Also, some of the media reporting of Frances Fitzgerald is extraordinary. Saying that she wasn't involved in orchestrating any of the attacks on McCabe, therefore, she has been exonerated and should never had resigned. Utter nonsense!! Nobody ever accused of her of orchestrating attacks on McCabe!

She was forced to resign because she misled the Dail about being aware of the Gardai strategy of attacking McCabe's motives. She also misled Varadkar, who in turn misled the Dail. That's why she was forced out. And rightly so.

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Re: The Minister, the Commissioner and the whistleblower
« Reply #241 on: November 14, 2018, 10:46:17 AM »
I see Gemma O'Doherty gurning about the RTE documentary on twitter:

https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1062273160257650690
 
In fairness she has a point.  She met with McCabe and wrote about these things long ago.   If RTE had cutting edge investigative team would have done a Prime Time exposé two years ago.  Now they are sailing in under the umbrella of Charleton results.  Compare it to the work of the likes of Peter Taylor back in the 80s.

The soft focus stuff makes up for any actual new information but at least it hits home to people the reality of what Maurice McCabe and his family experienced.

/Jim.


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Re: The Minister, the Commissioner and the whistleblower
« Reply #242 on: November 14, 2018, 11:23:08 AM »
Respect also to McCabe wife who afforded him the time and head space to complete his mission, despite having a scatter of young kids.

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Re: The Minister, the Commissioner and the whistleblower
« Reply #243 on: November 14, 2018, 04:34:45 PM »
the Tribunal made clear deliberations that testimony given by her claiming to be completely in the dark to the campaign orchestrated by Callinan was simply not credible.
That was the finding!
And the tribunal only covered her time as assistant commissioner, not when she was in charge of the gardai.

That was not "The Finding" and that is also not true. You should download the document and have a read. In particular I would refer you to Term C of the terms.

"To investigate what knowledge former Commissioner Callinan and/or Commissioner
O’Sullivan and/or other senior members of the Garda Síochána had concerning this
allegation of criminal misconduct made against Sergeant McCabe and whether they acted
upon same in a manner intended to discredit Sergeant McCabe."

http://opac.oireachtas.ie/AWData/Library3/Third_Interim_Report_121254.pdf

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Re: The Minister, the Commissioner and the whistleblower
« Reply #244 on: November 14, 2018, 10:12:02 PM »
The story was a classic, tailor made and handed on a plate for a documentary maker but imo this was a poorly constructed documentary and not worthy of the story. There was way too much talk-over on important details while the camera  focused on shots of water, lakes, bog water, shimmering water, waves, men in boats, water animals. If a person  didn't know the story, even the outline of the story and the various characters, would they be able to follow the import of the story as it developed in that documentary?

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Re: The Minister, the Commissioner and the whistleblower
« Reply #245 on: November 15, 2018, 08:00:14 AM »
There was pauses during the program which allowed viewers take board what they had just been told

No mention of the gardai targetting Claire Daly and Mick Wallace for drink driving after they raised these things in the Dail. And why reporters were waiting at the Garda station when Daly was falsely arrested.  Who authorised that?
Luke ming Flanagan raised the issue of whistleblowers on numerous occasions and he was airbrushed from the whole story, despite him and the family being targeted by the gardai and then when he raised that in the dail Enda Kenny labelled him as looking like a drug dealer

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Re: The Minister, the Commissioner and the whistleblower
« Reply #246 on: November 15, 2018, 11:47:51 AM »
the Tribunal made clear deliberations that testimony given by her claiming to be completely in the dark to the campaign orchestrated by Callinan was simply not credible.
That was the finding!
And the tribunal only covered her time as assistant commissioner, not when she was in charge of the gardai.
Absolutely. Taylor hated O'Sullivan and told lies about her, but people saying that means O'Sullivan was innocent of all wrongdoing are talking absolute nonsense. She wasn't the ringleader but she knew exactly what was going on .

Also, some of the media reporting of Frances Fitzgerald is extraordinary. Saying that she wasn't involved in orchestrating any of the attacks on McCabe, therefore, she has been exonerated and should never had resigned. Utter nonsense!! Nobody ever accused of her of orchestrating attacks on McCabe!

She was forced to resign because she misled the Dail about being aware of the Gardai strategy of attacking McCabe's motives. She also misled Varadkar, who in turn misled the Dail. That's why she was forced out. And rightly so.

revisionism always clouds the facts