Antrim Football Thread

Started by theskull1, November 09, 2006, 11:48:40 PM

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Cnoc Bán

Quote from: AllStar15 on November 05, 2025, 05:05:07 PM
Quote from: Cnoc Bán on November 05, 2025, 03:07:45 PM
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Quote from: NGBlue on November 04, 2025, 08:02:50 PMId imagine Barry Burns will take the St Paul's job and leave Antrim, Terry will stay and continue to build, Paddy Nugent is in with St John's, Hugo is the fergie of rossa he'll stay, Mcshane will have another roll of the dice with the paddies and I've heard the hotdog man is back at ods 😂 that's the west of the city covered!

Hearing new Antrim manager Doran has put his name forward for club jobs in other counties. Surely Antrim won't allow that?

It's his full time occupation isn't it?

Antrim won't be able to stop him or they'll have to come out and say he's contracted / paid

Well, he could? If he thinks Antrim will be out early enough and crack on with the clubs to prepare for Championship! What club?

Antrim U20 manager is taking TNN in 2026.

Niall Jackman?

Toal

That's the same scenario there was the year before with Jackman

Antrim U20 coach and TNN coach.

And then he continued on for 2025 when Toal took over to u20s.

YoungSaff

I hard chat Doran & Niall Morgan were taking Clan Eireann

a WhatsApp message in fairness one of them "forwarded many times"

He mustn't be too fond of the wife all that time away from home  ;D

belfastsaff

wouldnt be chasing after colin toal if i was TNN. u20s this year were as poor as i have ever seen

Flanker

Quote from: YoungSaff on November 06, 2025, 09:00:12 AMI hard chat Doran & Niall Morgan were taking Clan Eireann

a WhatsApp message in fairness one of them "forwarded many times"

He mustn't be too fond of the wife all that time away from home  ;D
More handbag money. stuffed with cash as well. Happy wife = Easy life

Saffrongael

Quote from: Cnoc Bán on November 06, 2025, 08:33:15 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on November 05, 2025, 05:05:07 PM
Quote from: Cnoc Bán on November 05, 2025, 03:07:45 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 04, 2025, 09:34:31 PM
Quote from: NGBlue on November 04, 2025, 09:30:21 PM
Quote from: HTownlad on November 04, 2025, 08:45:50 PM
Quote from: ck on November 04, 2025, 08:22:10 PM
Quote from: NGBlue on November 04, 2025, 08:02:50 PMId imagine Barry Burns will take the St Paul's job and leave Antrim, Terry will stay and continue to build, Paddy Nugent is in with St John's, Hugo is the fergie of rossa he'll stay, Mcshane will have another roll of the dice with the paddies and I've heard the hotdog man is back at ods 😂 that's the west of the city covered!

Hearing new Antrim manager Doran has put his name forward for club jobs in other counties. Surely Antrim won't allow that?

It's his full time occupation isn't it?

Antrim won't be able to stop him or they'll have to come out and say he's contracted / paid

Well, he could? If he thinks Antrim will be out early enough and crack on with the clubs to prepare for Championship! What club?

Antrim U20 manager is taking TNN in 2026.

Niall Jackman?

Toal

That's the same scenario there was the year before with Jackman

Antrim U20 coach and TNN coach.

And then he continued on for 2025 when Toal took over to u20s.

Do TNN not have any of their own men to take teams?  They also have had Ollie Bellew of St Galls, another hired gun, taking their hurlers last few years.
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

Milltown Row2

Can think of only one club that really doesn't bring in outsiders as managers that much, maybe 2.. Dunloy and Rossa, the Johnnies also rely on in house for the main, the rest, well if you ain't from those clubs then ya haven't much of a leg to stand on and throw shit..

Clubs will do what they feel right for them, so let them at it, internally these posts are advertised and the options are there for clubmen to take it on. If not the only other option is the committee take that role or the look outside..

 
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

AllStar15

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2025, 11:28:37 AMCan think of only one club that really doesn't bring in outsiders as managers that much, maybe 2.. Dunloy and Rossa, the Johnnies also rely on in house for the main, the rest, well if you ain't from those clubs then ya haven't much of a leg to stand on and throw shit..

Clubs will do what they feel right for them, so let them at it, internally these posts are advertised and the options are there for clubmen to take it on. If not the only other option is the committee take that role or the look outside..
 

LD and Galls seem to go internally mostly too - seems a more Belfast thing. What can a club do if no one wants to take the job internally, the stress of managing your own club at senior is ten times that of managing a different club.

Cnoc Bán

Quote from: Saffrongael on November 06, 2025, 10:45:21 AM
Quote from: Cnoc Bán on November 06, 2025, 08:33:15 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on November 05, 2025, 05:05:07 PM
Quote from: Cnoc Bán on November 05, 2025, 03:07:45 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 04, 2025, 09:34:31 PM
Quote from: NGBlue on November 04, 2025, 09:30:21 PM
Quote from: HTownlad on November 04, 2025, 08:45:50 PM
Quote from: ck on November 04, 2025, 08:22:10 PM
Quote from: NGBlue on November 04, 2025, 08:02:50 PMId imagine Barry Burns will take the St Paul's job and leave Antrim, Terry will stay and continue to build, Paddy Nugent is in with St John's, Hugo is the fergie of rossa he'll stay, Mcshane will have another roll of the dice with the paddies and I've heard the hotdog man is back at ods 😂 that's the west of the city covered!

Hearing new Antrim manager Doran has put his name forward for club jobs in other counties. Surely Antrim won't allow that?

It's his full time occupation isn't it?

Antrim won't be able to stop him or they'll have to come out and say he's contracted / paid

Well, he could? If he thinks Antrim will be out early enough and crack on with the clubs to prepare for Championship! What club?

Antrim U20 manager is taking TNN in 2026.

Niall Jackman?

Toal

That's the same scenario there was the year before with Jackman

Antrim U20 coach and TNN coach.

And then he continued on for 2025 when Toal took over to u20s.

Do TNN not have any of their own men to take teams?  They also have had Ollie Bellew of St Galls, another hired gun, taking their hurlers last few years.

In recent years club men have taken charge in both codes and they form the coaching staff under these "hired guns" as you call them.

It is a thankless task a lot of the time taking your own club, and some of those that did manage our teams have gone on to manage at other clubs, which is fair enough.

Last Man

Modern lifestyle has taken its toll. These jobs are attritional after a few years. Everyone wants to win and that's the standard that is applied to the management team by players and clubs. When it's your own club you can easily take that personally. On the flip side if you are a gun for hire you take your money and run.
Don't know what the answer is but I've never had an interest in taking another club, "expenses" or otherwise.

Cnoc Bán

Quote from: Antrim on November 06, 2025, 02:00:28 PMOut of interest why do you think it's fair enough?

I can't understand how men can take money of other gaa clubs obviosuly genuine expenses aside.

Says a lot about them if you ask me.

Who said they were paid roles.

I have no idea if they are or not.

I am sure they are getting expenses though which as I say is fair enough.

ck

Quote from: YoungSaff on November 06, 2025, 09:00:12 AMI hard chat Doran & Niall Morgan were taking Clan Eireann

a WhatsApp message in fairness one of them "forwarded many times"

He mustn't be too fond of the wife all that time away from home  ;D

I don't know how the powers that be in Antrim can accept him managing a club team too (maybe they don't?) but for me he's not taking his duties seriously for either job by trying to do both. It smacks of a man who's in it for one thing only.

Spike

Anyone taking a job outside their won club is in it for one thing only so I wouldn't get too wound up about his loyalty to Antrim or the GAA.

Na Glinntí Glasa

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2025, 11:28:37 AMCan think of only one club that really doesn't bring in outsiders as managers that much, maybe 2.. Dunloy and Rossa, the Johnnies also rely on in house for the main, the rest, well if you ain't from those clubs then ya haven't much of a leg to stand on and throw shit..

Clubs will do what they feel right for them, so let them at it, internally these posts are advertised and the options are there for clubmen to take it on. If not the only other option is the committee take that role or the look outside..

 

That day we pay for senior managers in our club is the day ill stop giving my time for the club.

Ive been involved in teams for 14 years coming now in all 3 codes and all 3 senior teams at one stage along that. Not a single penny has ever been sought for doing this nor has anyone else (bar the S&C coaches) taken from managements.

If we start to pay the managers what about all the others then who give hours up each week like myself.

If we ever start that crap then ill be finished giving my time up for free. Mercenaries coming in for a year with no care for the club or what happens the next year.

Nah, pass.


Milltown Row2

Quote from: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 06, 2025, 04:00:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2025, 11:28:37 AMCan think of only one club that really doesn't bring in outsiders as managers that much, maybe 2.. Dunloy and Rossa, the Johnnies also rely on in house for the main, the rest, well if you ain't from those clubs then ya haven't much of a leg to stand on and throw shit..

Clubs will do what they feel right for them, so let them at it, internally these posts are advertised and the options are there for clubmen to take it on. If not the only other option is the committee take that role or the look outside..

 

That day we pay for senior managers in our club is the day ill stop giving my time for the club.

Ive been involved in teams for 14 years coming now in all 3 codes and all 3 senior teams at one stage along that. Not a single penny has ever been sought for doing this nor has anyone else (bar the S&C coaches) taken from managements.

If we start to pay the managers what about all the others then who give hours up each week like myself.

If we ever start that crap then ill be finished giving my time up for free. Mercenaries coming in for a year with no care for the club or what happens the next year.

Nah, pass.



I'm not saying it's coming, and with the set up that ya's have it may not come, ever. I hope it doesn't but, when the money comes from a generous member, the club isn't losing out.

And if that person was the missing link to get over that line up the Hogan Steps! Wow! Sounds bonkers, but some clubs have went down that road and it worked..

Our visits to Croke were with John Rafferty, who, played and won many club championships with us, we came up short, and then the next man to bring us there was Lenny, a clubman, but even Lenny had went out and found his feet with other clubs before he came back to take us to the Hogan Steps. We've had a few other managers that were 'outsiders' but they, in my view, were a very good fit..

Your club is your club, throwing the toys out on things like that, for me anyways, is not what's needed
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

AllStar15

Quote from: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 06, 2025, 04:00:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2025, 11:28:37 AMCan think of only one club that really doesn't bring in outsiders as managers that much, maybe 2.. Dunloy and Rossa, the Johnnies also rely on in house for the main, the rest, well if you ain't from those clubs then ya haven't much of a leg to stand on and throw shit..

Clubs will do what they feel right for them, so let them at it, internally these posts are advertised and the options are there for clubmen to take it on. If not the only other option is the committee take that role or the look outside..

 

That day we pay for senior managers in our club is the day ill stop giving my time for the club.

Ive been involved in teams for 14 years coming now in all 3 codes and all 3 senior teams at one stage along that. Not a single penny has ever been sought for doing this nor has anyone else (bar the S&C coaches) taken from managements.

If we start to pay the managers what about all the others then who give hours up each week like myself.

If we ever start that crap then ill be finished giving my time up for free. Mercenaries coming in for a year with no care for the club or what happens the next year.

Nah, pass.



I doubt Paddy Bradley was up that part of the world for free.