Antrim Football Thread

Started by theskull1, November 09, 2006, 11:48:40 PM

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#38205
June 28, 2025, 10:43:35 AM Last Edit: June 28, 2025, 10:47:36 AM by Antrim
I agree. We entered Div 2 hurling a few years ago and were too good for it so entered Div 1 after that. We're back to div 2 this year but that's for different reasons. I think it's fair if the entry is made and some players get better or the team just clicks. Coaches have to balance maximising player participation with not getting slapped at a higher grade. I get that but this Gort team play like a senior team. Even if they are all young, they're still too good for the opposition and it's not fair on our or the other teams lads.

Milltown Row2

#38206
June 28, 2025, 11:18:08 AM
It's great that we have leagues tbf..

In my day at juvenile you had one league, Belfast leagues till minor then all county at minor.

Plenty of miss matches but at times some clubs couldn't enter due to numbers, while it's not perfect the clubs should be always reaching to play in the better leagues..

Our amalgamation in juvenile hurling has entered A grades and it will benefit us hopefully come senior, ultimately that's what you want as a club, to feed seniors..

Yes it's great to win championships but the goal as a club should always be participation first.

The B Feile final in hurling I did was  Cushendall v Ballycastle. I'm not saying they were in the wrong competition but that's the sort of pairing people look at and question
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Antrim

#38207
June 28, 2025, 02:14:04 PM
Your amalgamated hurling team is one of the 3 teams playing Div 2 when they shouldn't be.

Christmas Lights

#38208
June 29, 2025, 09:48:53 AM
Wait, St Galls have an amalgamated hurling team at youth? How? Why? I just always assume clubs like St Galls have huge numbers at youth but maybe I'm wrong on that?

Milltown Row2

#38209
June 29, 2025, 07:24:23 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on June 29, 2025, 09:48:53 AMWait, St Galls have an amalgamated hurling team at youth? How? Why? I just always assume clubs like St Galls have huge numbers at youth but maybe I'm wrong on that?

Football no issues but the hurling at youth level hasn't been as full as before, so a few years ago they hooked up with St Brid's and formed a new hurling team at juvenile and it's worked well, lads are getting exposure at a higher level and fingers crossed we see this bear fruit at senior.

I've said for years we have too many clubs, less hurling clubs and something needs done, the top teams at hurling won't change till it has better competition.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Duine Inteacht Eile

#38210
June 29, 2025, 07:33:06 PM
There are certain age groups where St Galls have enough on their own but alas....they enter amalgamations.

And I'm sorry for calling them out on it because it's a thing. Be it sanctions or amalgamations, the bigger picture is often blurred at many clubs.

Milltown Row2

#38211
June 29, 2025, 08:31:02 PM
There are many reasons, some flakey for sure.. If, let's take us as a starter, we fielded with just our own we'd struggle to consistently get teams out hurling, this 'arrangement' benefits the clubs involved and allows lads to play at a higher level..

It's not what we'd like but if you look up and down the country there are hundreds of 'new' clubs born out of falling numbers..

Personally I just want Belfast hurling (mainly for me) to be better.

The age thing for me is a hindrance at juvenile, it didn't do us any harm to play levels well above our age but certainly provides problems now to field
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Hectic

#38212
June 29, 2025, 10:36:35 PM
Wouldn't bother me if amalgamations were able to field 2 or 3 teams.

Might even be the way to go.

Always a big range of abilities across squads and difficult to push the best players on while also taking care of the weaker players.

A squad of 40 kids with teams in 2 different divisions and appropriate fluidity between the teams might be how we develop everyone best.

paddyjohn

#38213
June 29, 2025, 11:09:09 PM
Ballymena/Ahogill at underage Hurling, Con Magees/Oisins at Underage Hurling, Cushendall/Oisins at Un14 Hurling and Cushendall have a few Ballymena at Un16.

Naomh Padraig at Underage Hurling also. I'm sure there are others I've forgot about, but I'm sure if you ask any of the clubs involved they'll say it's helped hurling in these clubs. I'm not sure of so many football ones, Ahoghill/Moneyglass maybe?

Spike

#38214
June 29, 2025, 11:26:53 PM
Sounds like a lot of Amalgamations taking place at the moment.  This is worrying. It's not a great indicator of GAA health in a club.


Should only be used as a last resort not to massage the ego of a coach or 2 and certainly not with 1 club who is able to field on their own.

Milltown Row2

#38215
June 29, 2025, 11:32:09 PM
Quote from: Spike on June 29, 2025, 11:26:53 PMSounds like a lot of Amalgamations taking place at the moment.  This is worrying. It's not a great indicator of GAA health in a club.


Should only be used as a last resort not to massage the ego of a coach or 2 and certainly not with 1 club who is able to field on their own.

It's up and down the country, not just Antrim. It's difficult to maintain numbers .. 1 in 5 kids leave sport before a certain age.. it's very worrying
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

paddyjohn

#38216
June 30, 2025, 12:22:05 AM
Yeah, I've 6 nephews while all left before 16 and a niece who stopped at 13.

How do we stop this happening?

marty34

#38217
June 30, 2025, 12:28:20 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 30, 2025, 12:22:05 AMYeah, I've 6 nephews while all left before 16 and a niece who stopped at 13.

How do we stop this happening?

Lwt them have fun and don't make it as serious.

Parents have a lot to answer for.  ??? 

Antrim

#38218
June 30, 2025, 09:34:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2025, 08:31:02 PMThere are many reasons, some flakey for sure.. If, let's take us as a starter, we fielded with just our own we'd struggle to consistently get teams out hurling, this 'arrangement' benefits the clubs involved and allows lads to play at a higher level..

It's not what we'd like but if you look up and down the country there are hundreds of 'new' clubs born out of falling numbers..

Personally I just want Belfast hurling (mainly for me) to be better.

The age thing for me is a hindrance at juvenile, it didn't do us any harm to play levels well above our age but certainly provides problems now to field

I dont understand how you keep saying youre lads get to play at a higher level as part of Ard na ri when they are playing in Div 2 and minor B champ. Thats the lowest level we have. Gort and LD are the same. Its not fair on the single clubs doing it by themselves. They should be forced to be play Div 1 and A championship.

If a club has to amalgamate then its a bit embarasing if you ask me



Caesar

#38219
June 30, 2025, 09:55:30 AM
Disagree with that one. Nothing embarrassing about a club having to amalgamate at underage. It's obviously not ideal and I'm sure it's not St Galls preference, but given the choice between that and potentially not being able to field a team, the choice is pretty clear.

In the meantime, I'm sure St Galls are doing all they can to address the low playing numbers.
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