Antrim Football Thread

Cnoc Bán · September 30, 2024, 04:02:48 PM

Quote from: johnnycool on September 30, 2024, 02:47:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 30, 2024, 02:01:28 PMThe ards peninsula people seem to frown upon Bredagh more than Carryduff from what I hear JC

I wouldn't go that far, we hate both in equal measure but not as much as we hate each other.

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country bumpkin · September 30, 2024, 05:01:57 PM

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 30, 2024, 02:02:00 PMOn the final... I assume it will be Corrigan and Ahoghill isn't an option?

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Toss a coin.....Toome, or Portglenone ??

country bumpkin · September 30, 2024, 05:04:58 PM

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 30, 2024, 02:02:00 PMOn the final... I assume it will be Corrigan and Ahoghill isn't an option?

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Toss a coin.....Toome, or Portglenone ??

LC · September 30, 2024, 07:29:55 PM

Bellaghy........half way for both teams

paddyjohn · September 30, 2024, 07:33:48 PM

Quote from: LC on September 30, 2024, 07:29:55 PMBellaghy........half way for both teams

Great shout.

Hectic · October 01, 2024, 09:24:09 AM

There are no playoffs between Div 1 or 2 either as per said regulations!
Two teams down, two teams up.
Ballymena are an outlier that just confuse the situation as they did play IFC to accommodate Dunloy in SFC- remember as well that they were one of the proposers of this outcome !
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Correct, no more playoffs as per regulations.

But regulations don't say Dunloy are losing their place in top 16.

They also don't say who will take Dunloy's place should they exit the top 16 as some have suggested.

Did Ballymena play Intermediate to accommodate Dunloy or because they fancied a flat track run at Intermediate and a go at Ulster?

Logic surely would have said that when expanding to 16 for Senior Championship it would have been Ballymena promoted to Senior Championship as runners up last year. Not Aldergrove, who didn't even make the Intermediate Championship semi finals if I remember correctly.

Remember also both Aldergrove and Ballymena only played Division one via round the table meetings when all games finished last year as opposed to winning promotion as set out at the start of the season.

But anyhow, no playoffs in regulations but also an absence of what to do should Dunloy exit the top 16 so might need heads round the table to make more decisions on final place in top 16 should that rumour be correct.

Simple outcome is regulations are followed as written, Dunloy remain in senior 16, which is this years Senior Championship participants minus Moneyglass and St Endas - St Paul's and Intermediate winners taking their place. And then Division one mirroring Senior Championship.

But be good to know - even in advance of Intermediate final so that everyone knows what is on the line - not that it should affect two teams going out to try and win a championship of course.

Spike · October 01, 2024, 09:46:19 AM

Crazy it has got to this point but important the Intermediate finalists know what they are playing for.

I suspect the appeals board will be busy. Can those who filed Creggan, Portglenone and St Brigid's appeals be good Gaels and send the templates on to Dunloy, Moneyglass, Ballymena, St Pauls and St Enda's to save us all time.

Hectic · October 01, 2024, 10:08:23 AM

And just when you are naming clubs, is that not another angle?

Do all clubs get these regulations circulated in draft format to scrutinise and feed back on?

We have 34 clubs across the 3 leagues and championships.

If all have been asked to agree then what level of scrutiny are our clubs applying when they are supposed to?

A quick smell of the paper?

Spike · October 01, 2024, 10:56:49 AM

it is a valid point. you would think the clubs that feel they are safe from relegation issues in Div 1 perhaps give it little thought, or the Div 2 midtable teams who believe they have small risk of promotion or relegation glance over it. The others however you would think have it chapter and verse

Delgany 2nds · October 01, 2024, 01:54:28 PM

Quote from: Hectic on October 01, 2024, 09:24:09 AMThere are no playoffs between Div 1 or 2 either as per said regulations!
Two teams down, two teams up.
Ballymena are an outlier that just confuse the situation as they did play IFC to accommodate Dunloy in SFC- remember as well that they were one of the proposers of this outcome !

Correct, no more playoffs as per regulations.

But regulations don't say Dunloy are losing their place in top 16.

They also don't say who will take Dunloy's place should they exit the top 16 as some have suggested.

Did Ballymena play Intermediate to accommodate Dunloy or because they fancied a flat track run at Intermediate and a go at Ulster?

Logic surely would have said that when expanding to 16 for Senior Championship it would have been Ballymena promoted to Senior Championship as runners up last year. Not Aldergrove, who didn't even make the Intermediate Championship semi finals if I remember correctly.

Remember also both Aldergrove and Ballymena only played Division one via round the table meetings when all games finished last year as opposed to winning promotion as set out at the start of the season.

But anyhow, no playoffs in regulations but also an absence of what to do should Dunloy exit the top 16 so might need heads round the table to make more decisions on final place in top 16 should that rumour be correct.

Simple outcome is regulations are followed as written, Dunloy remain in senior 16, which is this years Senior Championship participants minus Moneyglass and St Endas - St Paul's and Intermediate winners taking their place. And then Division one mirroring Senior Championship.

But be good to know - even in advance of Intermediate final so that everyone knows what is on the line - not that it should affect two teams going out to try and win a championship of course.
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Ballymena were promoted as 4th highest placed team in Div2 as determined by the 'proposer' group. They were 'selected' to play IFC (as lowest placed team) due to Dunloy being a seeded SFC team in 2024.

Dunloy had to reach semi final stage in 2024 to be guaranteed SFC in 2025, as leagues and championships are to be aligned as per Official guide - 16 teams max per SFC.

3 teams drop down as a consequence and 2 teams will step up as Ballymena already a Div 1 team.

It said in regulations that in event of Div1 team winning IFC ...then IFC finalists would play Div 2 runners up in a play off. Hence..St .Teresas promoted.

Hectic · October 01, 2024, 02:48:47 PM

I think you are getting a bit mixed up there Delagny.

It's not a 2024 Division 1 team that exception is written about. Rather the 2024 Division 2 winners (St Paul's) who are now effectively a Division 1 team.

So that one has sailed with Ballymena's second gear, no sweat broken, victory on Saturday past.

'Division 2 adult football: the team in 1st position only, after completion of league fixtures (two rounds) is the league winner and promoted to Division 1, subject to the exceptions below.
Exception - in the event that the same team wins Division 2 and the Intermediate championship, that team shall be promoted to Division 1 and Senior Championship; the team finishing 2nd in the league shall play the beaten IFC finalist in a playoff game to determine who is the second promoted team. In the event that this is the same team, no playoff game shall be required.'

So if St Teresa's, and probably Ballymena for that matter, want senior status in 2025, then it won't be as a consolation the weekend after next but rather by showing up and winning that prize along with a nice shiny trophy.

*Ballymena avoided senior relegation via the league route, as indeed did St Endas. Not explicitly clear in the regulations what their championship route is (all teams had league and championship routes) though does read like winning Intermediate will see them replace St Endas there.

**Also nothing to say Dunloy should be demoted having avoided relegation from Senior Championship. And certainly nothing to say how they are replaced should they opt to go down as some seem to think is the case. But more than losing Intermediate finalists would have a strong case in that hypothetical situation.

Hoof Hearted · October 01, 2024, 03:16:48 PM

i think there are HND's and degrees easier got than trying to figure out who's playing where next season.

belfastsaff · October 01, 2024, 04:20:36 PM

County Final for Corrigan. I wonder will the South Belfast crew make the trip over to us in the dirty dark west to watch it?

Totes sore on them a few times but they are also sore on everyone's ear drums so these things swing in roundabouts!

iMO Casements should give Cargin their fill of it but after chatting to a few LD men they were very disappointed with their showing and they could get to grips with the running power of casements.

A CB v BS final the one we have all been waiting for

InnocentByStander · October 01, 2024, 04:34:28 PM

Quote from: belfastsaff on October 01, 2024, 04:20:36 PMCounty Final for Corrigan. I wonder will the South Belfast crew make the trip over to us in the dirty dark west to watch it?

Totes sore on them a few times but they are also sore on everyone's ear drums so these things swing in roundabouts!

iMO Casements should give Cargin their fill of it but after chatting to a few LD men they were very disappointed with their showing and they could get to grips with the running power of casements.

A CB v BS final the one we have all been waiting for

Three blatant black cards in the first half, not even given ticks, if their saying he was sore on them I'm unsure what game they were watching....

belfastsaff · October 01, 2024, 04:43:42 PM

Yes no doubt Jack Dowling should have been off not once but twice. Have seen the tackle at the end given more times than enough as a free however.

If Lavey did go down to 14 men in the first half it would have been game over 5 minutes into the second half. Paying big £ for a management team to muster up 7 points in a championship game without missing any clear cut chances. Not good reading