Antrim Football Thread

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Milltown Row2

Quote from: Saffrongael on August 16, 2023, 05:19:21 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 16, 2023, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2023, 03:59:30 PM
Quote from: Caesar on August 16, 2023, 03:54:40 PM
Have you any thoughts on why the city teams in particular seem to be struggling at underage? What has changed in the city that doesn't apply to the country boys?

Doing a lot of under age games and Naomh Brid (Belfast) seem to be doing rightly at underage lately as are St Paul's..

As mentioned taking your eye off the underage and channeling energies into senior only will only reduce the counties ability to get better

GNM seem to be doing good work

GNM have good U-15 teams (relatively speaking) in both codes. They are struggling under that age to field in hurling for example. I wouldn't accuse a team in Belfast of not "putting the work in", I have seen the challenges at first hand.

They are varied, soccer, the number of clubs, kids not practicing from one week to the next and don't come back. If a club doesent have numbers they are behind the 8 ball already. St Brigids have huge numbers at football (not so at hurling)

St Paul's are strong in football and hurling from U-11 up to U-15, not sure about U-17.

So single code teams should be better prepared, numbers, training, structures than say a dual club
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

EOC1923

Quote from: marty34 on August 16, 2023, 05:49:46 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 16, 2023, 04:03:20 PM
Have the country teams raised the standard or have the city teams just got worse. A bit of both?

I ask this because it seems to me that our county underage teams are no better than they ever were and are possibly worse.

And if I expand this out to senior club football, trying to tread carefully as I know they can be sensitive on here. Cargin posters - I'm not having a pop at your club!!

Cargin are undoubtedly and deservedly the standard bearers in Antrim football currently. Do you think that Cargin's current team are of a higher standard than their team that wasn't winning many championships 10-15 years ago?
I think Cargins current team full out are better than 10-15 years ago, though not at that level of St Galls All Ireland winners. That was an exceptional team.
We have kept a consistent standard throughout while others have dropped off. Only my opinion

St. Galls were better alright. Won an All-Ireland etc.

Cargin have won a few Antrim titles but, as of yet, have done very little in Ulster.

As I said previously, they need to look beyond Antrim instead of their supporters on here talking up winning another Antrim title.
In our whole history we've on only played in Ulster 9 different seasons and won games in two of those. Maybe this could be our year to go further if we win this easy Antrim championship you are talking about.

Sportacus

Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 16, 2023, 05:01:00 PM
Quote from: Caesar on August 16, 2023, 03:54:40 PM
Have you any thoughts on why the city teams in particular seem to be struggling at underage? What has changed in the city that doesn't apply to the country boys?

Said this on here a few times, don't think too many agree but i believe schools have a massive part to play, Antrim the only county in Ulster not represented at macrory level. Look at the clubs performing well over recent years ourselves creggan and aghagllon all tend to send their children to schools outside of Antrim and competing at high level in schools football.
Jaysus don't be me mentioning schools on here.  You'll get ate.

marty34

Quote from: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 06:25:46 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 16, 2023, 05:49:46 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 16, 2023, 04:03:20 PM
Have the country teams raised the standard or have the city teams just got worse. A bit of both?

I ask this because it seems to me that our county underage teams are no better than they ever were and are possibly worse.

And if I expand this out to senior club football, trying to tread carefully as I know they can be sensitive on here. Cargin posters - I'm not having a pop at your club!!

Cargin are undoubtedly and deservedly the standard bearers in Antrim football currently. Do you think that Cargin's current team are of a higher standard than their team that wasn't winning many championships 10-15 years ago?
I think Cargins current team full out are better than 10-15 years ago, though not at that level of St Galls All Ireland winners. That was an exceptional team.
We have kept a consistent standard throughout while others have dropped off. Only my opinion

St. Galls were better alright. Won an All-Ireland etc.

Cargin have won a few Antrim titles but, as of yet, have done very little in Ulster.

As I said previously, they need to look beyond Antrim instead of their supporters on here talking up winning another Antrim title.
In our whole history we've on only played in Ulster 9 different seasons and won games in two of those. Maybe this could be our year to go further if we win this easy Antrim championship you are talking about.

I never said it was easy.

Just a serious amount of childish stuff on here regarding other clubs and Cargin and who is favourites etc. Bit childish.

Cargin have been in Ulster club a few years now but not much progress.

You're right, this could be the year IF they get out of Antrim.


EOC1923

Quote from: marty34 on August 16, 2023, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 06:25:46 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 16, 2023, 05:49:46 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 16, 2023, 04:03:20 PM
Have the country teams raised the standard or have the city teams just got worse. A bit of both?

I ask this because it seems to me that our county underage teams are no better than they ever were and are possibly worse.

And if I expand this out to senior club football, trying to tread carefully as I know they can be sensitive on here. Cargin posters - I'm not having a pop at your club!!

Cargin are undoubtedly and deservedly the standard bearers in Antrim football currently. Do you think that Cargin's current team are of a higher standard than their team that wasn't winning many championships 10-15 years ago?
I think Cargins current team full out are better than 10-15 years ago, though not at that level of St Galls All Ireland winners. That was an exceptional team.
We have kept a consistent standard throughout while others have dropped off. Only my opinion

St. Galls were better alright. Won an All-Ireland etc.

Cargin have won a few Antrim titles but, as of yet, have done very little in Ulster.

As I said previously, they need to look beyond Antrim instead of their supporters on here talking up winning another Antrim title.
In our whole history we've on only played in Ulster 9 different seasons and won games in two of those. Maybe this could be our year to go further if we win this easy Antrim championship you are talking about.

I never said it was easy.

Just a serious amount of childish stuff on here regarding other clubs and Cargin and who is favourites etc. Bit childish.

Cargin have been in Ulster club a few years now but not much progress.

You're right, this could be the year IF they get out of Antrim.
You just said they should be looking at Ulster not Antrim, now you're saying "if" they get out of Antrim. Make your mind up

marty34

Quote from: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 08:26:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 16, 2023, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 06:25:46 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 16, 2023, 05:49:46 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 16, 2023, 04:03:20 PM
Have the country teams raised the standard or have the city teams just got worse. A bit of both?

I ask this because it seems to me that our county underage teams are no better than they ever were and are possibly worse.

And if I expand this out to senior club football, trying to tread carefully as I know they can be sensitive on here. Cargin posters - I'm not having a pop at your club!!

Cargin are undoubtedly and deservedly the standard bearers in Antrim football currently. Do you think that Cargin's current team are of a higher standard than their team that wasn't winning many championships 10-15 years ago?
I think Cargins current team full out are better than 10-15 years ago, though not at that level of St Galls All Ireland winners. That was an exceptional team.
We have kept a consistent standard throughout while others have dropped off. Only my opinion

St. Galls were better alright. Won an All-Ireland etc.

Cargin have won a few Antrim titles but, as of yet, have done very little in Ulster.

As I said previously, they need to look beyond Antrim instead of their supporters on here talking up winning another Antrim title.
In our whole history we've on only played in Ulster 9 different seasons and won games in two of those. Maybe this could be our year to go further if we win this easy Antrim championship you are talking about.

I never said it was easy.

Just a serious amount of childish stuff on here regarding other clubs and Cargin and who is favourites etc. Bit childish.

Cargin have been in Ulster club a few years now but not much progress.

You're right, this could be the year IF they get out of Antrim.
You just said they should be looking at Ulster not Antrim, now you're saying "if" they get out of Antrim. Make your mind up

Don't want Cargin to get ahead of themselves.  That's why I put the IF.

If I din't put it in, you'd be complaining.

You're always constantly having a go at Portglenone and other teams - like baldy men fighting over a comb.

SaffronSports

I'd make Cargin favourites for Antrim and Glen favourites for Derry so they'll have it all to do to get past the first round tbh. Think Glen will go close again.

Saffrongael

Schools is a total red herring if clubs aren't producing the players
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

Would ye whist

On a lighter note I see the SV boys and McTaggart are having a falling out in Twitter, always wondered how much sense McTaggart had but now I know

Saffrongael

Quote from: Would ye whist on August 16, 2023, 10:03:46 PM
On a lighter note I see the SV boys and McTaggart are having a falling out in Twitter, always wondered how much sense McTaggart had but now I know

Not a lot
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

paddyjohn

Quote from: Would ye whist on August 16, 2023, 10:03:46 PM
On a lighter note I see the SV boys and McTaggart are having a falling out in Twitter, always wondered how much sense McTaggart had but now I know

McTaggart is a complete gentleman. Wouldn't write a bad word about anybody or slate anybody.

imtommygunn

Does great work too and deserves nothing but credit. Gets a bit excited about Dunloy mind you :D

Milltown Row2

Quote from: imtommygunn on August 17, 2023, 08:19:08 AM
Does great work too and deserves nothing but credit. Gets a bit excited about Dunloy mind you :D

Nothing wrong with getting excited about your club, and great to see passion. Seems its not everyone's cup on tea
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

imtommygunn

Yeah I was joking. Them ones deserve no attention. Mctaggart and the saffron gael do great work.

On the note of schools we do have quite a few players who do benefit from playing at McRory level. I think that's definitely helpful.

InnocentByStander

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2023, 05:44:53 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 16, 2023, 05:01:00 PM
Quote from: Caesar on August 16, 2023, 03:54:40 PM
Have you any thoughts on why the city teams in particular seem to be struggling at underage? What has changed in the city that doesn't apply to the country boys?

Said this on here a few times, don't think too many agree but i believe schools have a massive part to play, Antrim the only county in Ulster not represented at macrory level. Look at the clubs performing well over recent years ourselves creggan and aghagllon all tend to send their children to schools outside of Antrim and competing at high level in schools football.

So the teams that did well that didn't send their kids to schools outside of Antrim did ok?

Not saying its the be all and end all i know there's plenty other factors outside that but just pointing out its a big factor.
And of course there have been a few teams that have done well with their kids going to school in Belfast.

And i know it is easy for me to point fingers at the city clubs, but truth is us in the country don't have the same problems, as in many areas of the country football is everything, in Belfast there are many many more distractions outside of football