Antrim Football Thread

[bannside]

Management have a month now to see who's doing what on the training ground and in club games. I'm sure Andy is first to know a shake up is needed, he will have been disappointed himself with the effort on Saturday past.

If I was AME I would make it clear that only those 100% up for Tailtean Cup and next years NFL squad should commit to a month of hard training. Bring in half a dozen newbies and a squad of 40, and see who wants it the most, in the training and in the in house matches. Reputations should count for diddly squat, so too should be what club you come from, or even what age you are. Should Marc Jordan at almost 30 stand aside because a good 19/20 year old has suddenly appeared?  No, if the younger ones are good enough for now then let them show it.

If any of the unavailables previously documented want to put their hand up for consideration then I can't see Andy chasing any of them, but they would need to be going there in good shape, ready to hit the ground.

It's only one opinion NSS but at the end of that I'd expect CJ, RMQ, SON and possibly CD to be well in the mix.Also Dermot Adam  & Jamie would expect yo be in contention - but I'd make it the hardest training yet and see who's standing out and wants it the most. Anybody dosent fancy it, close the door on the way out.

[Spike]

Sure it looks like you wouldn't change much anyway.  Obviously happy with Saturdays team.  If you're happy with that then thats fine, entitled to your opinion of course. 

If you scroll back a few pages you will find find much hearty positivity and names from the u20 team that played against Donegal.  Pop back a page to your own post and you will find some benchwarmers that had little input into Saturday's dross.  For that little sprinkle of grey haired experience you could again refer to your own post about older players.

Posters got their knuckles wrapped for being personal about the players so there are some suggestions, many by your own hand.  Some can be very negative on here but as a beacon of upbeat positivity I would say we are in the very lucky position of being a county able to field a full team of alternative players that would improve on Saturdays showing.

[Spike]

Management have a month now to see who's doing what on the training ground and in club games. I'm sure Andy is first to know a shake up is needed, he will have been disappointed himself with the effort on Saturday past.

If I was AME I would make it clear that only those 100% up for Tailtean Cup and next years NFL squad should commit to a month of hard training. Bring in half a dozen newbies and a squad of 40, and see who wants it the most, in the training and in the in house matches. Reputations should count for diddly squat, so too should be what club you come from, or even what age you are. Should Marc Jordan at almost 30 stand aside because a good 19/20 year old has suddenly appeared?  No, if the younger ones are good enough for now then let them show it.

If any of the unavailables previously documented want to put their hand up for consideration then I can't see Andy chasing any of them, but they would need to be going there in good shape, ready to hit the ground.

It's only one opinion NSS but at the end of that I'd expect CJ, RMQ, SON and possibly CD to be well in the mix.Also Dermot Adam  & Jamie would expect yo be in contention - but I'd make it the hardest training yet and see who's standing out and wants it the most. Anybody dosent fancy it, close the door on the way out.

That sounds like a tweak to my earlier recommendation about Corrigan BS 

[NatSoSaff]

You're turning it back on me, I'm just asking posters to state alternatives if they don't agree with a selection or system, but rarely does anyone post such. I try to.  I have been critical too, and I'm not happy that we're not competitive in Ulster yet. I was fuming at the Westmeath shambles, but can take it for what it was. A freak performance and result.

[NatSoSaff]

With reference to the older players, I'd love if those names wanted to come back to the fold, but they should have to and owe the County nothing.

[NatSoSaff]

Management have a month now to see who's doing what on the training ground and in club games. I'm sure Andy is first to know a shake up is needed, he will have been disappointed himself with the effort on Saturday past.

If I was AME I would make it clear that only those 100% up for Tailtean Cup and next years NFL squad should commit to a month of hard training. Bring in half a dozen newbies and a squad of 40, and see who wants it the most, in the training and in the in house matches. Reputations should count for diddly squat, so too should be what club you come from, or even what age you are. Should Marc Jordan at almost 30 stand aside because a good 19/20 year old has suddenly appeared?  No, if the younger ones are good enough for now then let them show it.

If any of the unavailables previously documented want to put their hand up for consideration then I can't see Andy chasing any of them, but they would need to be going there in good shape, ready to hit the ground.

It's only one opinion NSS but at the end of that I'd expect CJ, RMQ, SON and possibly CD to be well in the mix.Also Dermot Adam  & Jamie would expect yo be in contention - but I'd make it the hardest training yet and see who's standing out and wants it the most. Anybody dosent fancy it, close the door on the way out.

Can't argue with that. Spike has reminded me, what is the state of play with
Michael and Tomas McCann? Are they returning to the panel when
recovered or are they now retired?

[country bumpkin]

Management have a month now to see who's doing what on the training ground and in club games. I'm sure Andy is first to know a shake up is needed, he will have been disappointed himself with the effort on Saturday past.

If I was AME I would make it clear that only those 100% up for Tailtean Cup and next years NFL squad should commit to a month of hard training. Bring in half a dozen newbies and a squad of 40, and see who wants it the most, in the training and in the in house matches. Reputations should count for diddly squat, so too should be what club you come from, or even what age you are. Should Marc Jordan at almost 30 stand aside because a good 19/20 year old has suddenly appeared?  No, if the younger ones are good enough for now then let them show it.

If any of the unavailables previously documented want to put their hand up for consideration then I can't see Andy chasing any of them, but they would need to be going there in good shape, ready to hit the ground.

It's only one opinion NSS but at the end of that I'd expect CJ, RMQ, SON and possibly CD to be well in the mix.Also Dermot Adam  & Jamie would expect yo be in contention - but I'd make it the hardest training yet and see who's standing out and wants it the most. Anybody dosent fancy it, close the door on the way out.

Can’t argue with that. Spike has reminded me, what is the state of play with
Michael and Tomas McCann? Are they returning to the panel when
recovered or are they now retired?

Cannot speak for Mick or Tomas although I do speak to them on a regular basis but I do know both have drawers full of O'Cathain cup as well as Div one league medals in company, as a plentiful haul of championship medals

You think they are gonna go in search of another award for a secondary competition....??

IMO....doubt it.

[bannside]

Kobo, Justy and James Laverty had terrific seasons last year but I suppose they are in the same boat with drawerfuls of medals too, but CB never seems to mention them despite them being a bit younger. Which is fair enough, they owe nothing and if its not for them any longer then Andy needs to throw his net a bit wider.

Which is the point I have been making all along about a team in transition. How people can't see that is beyond me! And with that in mind maybe they punched above their weight in Div 3, given they were well ahead at stages of Down and Fermanagh too.

Anyway I think all these points have been well enough covered at this point.

[country bumpkin]

Kobo, Justy and James Laverty had terrific seasons last year but I suppose they are in the same boat with drawerfuls of medals too, but CB never seems to mention them despite them being a bit younger. Which is fair enough, they owe nothing and if its not for them any longer then Andy needs to throw his net a bit wider.

Which is the point I have been making all along about a team in transition. How people can't see that is beyond me! And with that in mind maybe they punched above their weight in Div 3, given they were well ahead at stages of Down and Fermanagh too.

Anyway I think all these points have been well enough covered at this point.

Did not see any posts relative to James, Kevin, Justin, John Carron, or big Gerard either.....but guess would be a similar reply..........

Drawers full all round..........

[FrMaginn]

I wish people would stop referencing the u20 team as if they were this exceptional team.  They lost to a average donegal team who lost heavily to derry.  There hasn't been a 'decent' antrim youth team since 06 if truth be told

[Hoof Hearted]

I wish people would stop referencing the u20 team as if they were this exceptional team.  They lost to a average donegal team who lost heavily to derry.  There hasn't been a 'decent' antrim youth team since 06 if truth be told

Not sure 11 5 is considered overly heavy

[FrMaginn]

Scoring over twice what your opponents does imo is a game that's not even close.  But even if you think it isn't, my point still stands about the team being average/no better than any other recent team

[Milltown Row2]

I wish people would stop referencing the u20 team as if they were this exceptional team.  They lost to a average donegal team who lost heavily to derry.  There hasn't been a 'decent' antrim youth team since 06 if truth be told

Not sure 11 5 is considered overly heavy

How many from play?

[SaffronSports]

If we had the best 30 footballers in Antrim on a panel, the best coach around coaching them, where would we be? Our history suggests probably not much further forward than where we are now. Division 2 maybe if all the stars alligned?

[marty34]

If we had the best 30 footballers in Antrim on a panel, the best coach around coaching them, where would we be? Our history suggests probably not much further forward than where we are now. Division 2 maybe if all the stars alligned?

Antrim, as from this thread, always in trouble.

No sense of agreement.