Antrim Football Thread

[country bumpkin]

Same for you Nag.....be proud and I will take a stab at rating your club......bet you are above Cargin...beating them on a regular basis....??

[imtommygunn]

 

I am currently not associated with any club and I don't really take shots at any club CB.

I just find your willingness to turn any innocuous comment of any description into an accusation of Cargin bashing as ridiculous. That's not a reflection on your club just you so my club has no bearing on anything. It's real siege mentality and basically kills any form of discussion here as it gets ridiculous just like your last few days postings.


[Edit] BTW your last post shows that again. Oh you are showing some criticism let me tell you how much better my club are than yours. Laughable.

[GiveItToTheShooters]

I am currently not associated with any club and I don't really take shots at any club CB.

I just find your willingness to turn any innocuous comment of any description into an accusation of Cargin bashing as ridiculous. That's not a reflection on your club just you so my club has no bearing on anything. It's real siege mentality and basically kills any form of discussion here as it gets ridiculous just like your last few days postings.


[Edit] BTW your last post shows that again. Oh you are showing some criticism let me tell you how much better my club are than yours. Laughable.

Spot on. They're a paranoid and insecure bunch

[Milltown Row2]

Same for you Nag.....be proud and I will take a stab at rating your club......bet you are above Cargin...beating them on a regular basis....??

So I'm beyond you rating me or any Johnnies men or Rossa men for that matter

[Spike]

Apparently P F endured hamstring problems mid-week and indeed he would not have been fooled by the results of 'sniper at work' today.
Soft frees indeed and one led to that penalty.

But if some suggest Glen are the real deal and one of the top sides in the country I still take a lot to be persuaded....

I thought the glen no 10 think it is Ethan Doherty went to ground very easily John carron I think got done for a soft free on him- mick McCann also another ref defo would have let a lot more go

McCann's was a definite free - he put his hand into opponent's face - it's football, not rugby.  Cargin decision making in last 15 minutes cost them, nothing to do with the referee.  Corner back took on a very difficult shot and missed, McCann free in middle of the park, tried to find Tomas who was very tightly marked, Glen score came from that.  Fine margins but ultimately Glen didn't panic when it came down to the wire, Cargin did.

Hate being pedantic but Emmett Bradley missed this free kick following a harsh decision on Kevin O'Boyle.  We see what we want to see i suppose. 

I thought Cargin managed the game really well, defused a lot of Glen's weapons and counterattacked well. Everyone said stay clear of Glen's midfield and Cargin did the opposite and bravely went toe to toe in there. Shooting conditions were difficult for both sides.  What Glen did do well was restrict the number of easy opportunities for Cargin to shoot from, always forced them to shoot from distance.  I suspect Glen will have learned a lot about themselves from Sunday. Certainly more than Kilcoo learned.

[country bumpkin]

I am currently not associated with any club and I don't really take shots at any club CB.

I just find your willingness to turn any innocuous comment of any description into an accusation of Cargin bashing as ridiculous. That's not a reflection on your club just you so my club has no bearing on anything. It's real siege mentality and basically kills any form of discussion here as it gets ridiculous just like your last few days postings.


[Edit] BTW your last post shows that again. Oh you are showing some criticism let me tell you how much better my club are than yours. Laughable.

Figured as much....

[Milltown Row2]

Apparently P F endured hamstring problems mid-week and indeed he would not have been fooled by the results of 'sniper at work' today.
Soft frees indeed and one led to that penalty.

But if some suggest Glen are the real deal and one of the top sides in the country I still take a lot to be persuaded....

I thought the glen no 10 think it is Ethan Doherty went to ground very easily John carron I think got done for a soft free on him- mick McCann also another ref defo would have let a lot more go

McCann's was a definite free - he put his hand into opponent's face - it's football, not rugby.  Cargin decision making in last 15 minutes cost them, nothing to do with the referee.  Corner back took on a very difficult shot and missed, McCann free in middle of the park, tried to find Tomas who was very tightly marked, Glen score came from that.  Fine margins but ultimately Glen didn't panic when it came down to the wire, Cargin did.

Hate being pedantic but Emmett Bradley missed this free kick following a harsh decision on Kevin O'Boyle.  We see what we want to see i suppose. 

I thought Cargin managed the game really well, defused a lot of Glen's weapons and counterattacked well. Everyone said stay clear of Glen's midfield and Cargin did the opposite and bravely went toe to toe in there. Shooting conditions were difficult for both sides.  What Glen did do well was restrict the number of easy opportunities for Cargin to shoot from, always forced them to shoot from distance.  I suspect Glen will have learned a lot about themselves from Sunday. Certainly more than Kilcoo learned.

The ref missed Glass being hit by a shoulder on side of face (had he seen it someone was going for an early bath) he stopped play and Cargin had possession, so no foul given, there were things like this throughout the game, some he got some he didn't.. The rookie mistake is talking back and having the ball moved forward though

[country bumpkin]

Same for you Nag.....be proud and I will take a stab at rating your club......bet you are above Cargin...beating them on a regular basis....??

So I'm beyond you rating me or any Johnnies men or Rossa men for that matter

Did not ask you but am well aware of the status of both the Johnnies and Rossa.
But as to your own field of expertise before that whistler arrived on the Cargin scene on Sunday who was in harge when Cargin lost their only championship game (knock out)
over the last eight years...

Think hard......

[Spike]

MR2 in that case every single free kick in that game should have been moved forward for both sides.  Basic short questioning of a decision the player doesn't comprehend in the middle of football match is not abuse.   It is the lack of consistency whether that be in action for talking back, black cards, yellow cards, red cards, shoulder challenges or simply the common tackle that grates both the players and supporters.   Consistency in fitness levels as well.   If you're telling me you have similar fitness levels as Sundays referee then there must be a large margin for error.

On the players and supporters side, verbal or physical abuse and vitriol is simply not acceptable and should not be tolerated in any form. 

[Flanker]

Also why 4th. Joint 3rd. Glass half full 

ITG I think the glass is more than half full already 

Newsflash from the school bus at Ballygawley roundabout

Errigal Ciaran laying claim to joint 3rd place as Glen only beat them by 4 points. Their legal team feel they have a strong case based on back of the school bus logic.

CB had better head for the Tyrone page and put those pesky upstarts back in their box

[country bumpkin]

Also why 4th. Joint 3rd. Glass half full 

ITG I think the glass is more than half full already 

Newsflash from the school bus at Ballygawley roundabout

Errigal Ciaran laying claim to joint 3rd place as Glen only beat them by 4 points. Their legal team feel they have a strong case based on back of the school bus logic.

CB had better head for the Tyrone page and put those pesky upstarts back in their box

So you are still at school.......?

[Milltown Row2]

Same for you Nag.....be proud and I will take a stab at rating your club......bet you are above Cargin...beating them on a regular basis....??

So I'm beyond you rating me or any Johnnies men or Rossa men for that matter

Did not ask you but am well aware of the status of both the Johnnies and Rossa.
But as to your own field of expertise before that whistler arrived on the Cargin scene on Sunday who was in harge when Cargin lost their only championship game (knock out)
over the last eight years...

Think hard......

I'm thinking if you don't take your opportunities you lose out, if the other team scores more than the opposition they win, if you miss 21 yard frees it won't help..

So every time Cargin lose its the ref that's lost it? Who was the whistler when they lost to Derrygonnelly from Fermanagh? id that the game you are talking about?

[Flanker]

Also why 4th. Joint 3rd. Glass half full 

ITG I think the glass is more than half full already 

Newsflash from the school bus at Ballygawley roundabout

Errigal Ciaran laying claim to joint 3rd place as Glen only beat them by 4 points. Their legal team feel they have a strong case based on back of the school bus logic.

CB had better head for the Tyrone page and put those pesky upstarts back in their box

So you are still at school.......?

I am but I'm on the yellow and white bus.. It was those big boys on the blue and white bus that were talking about it Just thought I would give you the heads up in case you found it on social media and got upset. Better to be prepared

[Milltown Row2]

MR2 in that case every single free kick in that game should have been moved forward for both sides.  Basic short questioning of a decision the player doesn't comprehend in the middle of football match is not abuse.   It is the lack of consistency whether that be in action for talking back, black cards, yellow cards, red cards, shoulder challenges or simply the common tackle that grates both the players and supporters.   Consistency in fitness levels as well.   If you're telling me you have similar fitness levels as Sundays referee then there must be a large margin for error.

On the players and supporters side, verbal or physical abuse and vitriol is simply not acceptable and should not be tolerated in any form.

I know plenty or marathon runners who are big men, nice steady pace no issues, these lads at this level believe it or not have to pass a fitness test, otherwise they don't get the game, so if he's past the test what are you looking?

My fitness isn't up for debate, in fact the club referee's beep test is at a lesser level to intercounty refs, so he'd have to pass a higher level, but I its funny how supporters that are so far away from the pitch think they can see closer than the ref who'll generally be with 20 yards of play.

As for basic short questioning the ref, there is questioning them and there is being a dick about it... I can name at least 6/7 lads on that Cargin team who never open their mouths when playing, and if they do question decisions its not derogatory or abusive. Why can't that be across the rest of the team and other teams BTW?

In my post I'm just saying that the ref was not the reason here, he missed things for both teams, its impossible to get everything, unfortunately the original ref was injured, it happens and this lad was the standby ref, that's how it works

[Spike]

Same for you Nag.....be proud and I will take a stab at rating your club......bet you are above Cargin...beating them on a regular basis....??

So I'm beyond you rating me or any Johnnies men or Rossa men for that matter

Did not ask you but am well aware of the status of both the Johnnies and Rossa.
But as to your own field of expertise before that whistler arrived on the Cargin scene on Sunday who was in harge when Cargin lost their only championship game (knock out)
over the last eight years...

Think hard......

I'm thinking if you don't take your opportunities you lose out, if the other team scores more than the opposition they win, if you miss 21 yard frees it won't help..

So every time Cargin lose its the ref that's lost it? Who was the whistler when they lost to Derrygonnelly from Fermanagh? id that the game you are talking about?

Maybe they were exhausted from the absurd amount of injury time played in that years Antrim decider?