Antrim Football Thread

Started by theskull1, November 09, 2006, 11:48:40 PM

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geezer

Colm mcdonald is ref. On the county website.

HealthySaff

You guys are all very hard on Antrim refs, particularly when you lose! Give the volunteers a break

Saffronaldo

Quote from: HealthySaff on November 04, 2021, 03:08:23 PM
You guys are all very hard on Antrim refs, particularly when you lose! Give the volunteers a break


I've already acknowledged it's a difficult job, and fair play to them for doing it. My own club didn't lose so my comments on the semi final I was at aren't sour grapes, just a neutral making an honest assessment.

The video evidence supports my view, and I don't think it's unreasonable to question blatantly unfair decisions like that. In fact we should be doing so in an attempt to raise standards.

JimStynes

What sort of condition is the pitch in at Corrigan? I think a heavier pitch will suit Creggan. They're a big physical team. Plenty of pace too. Maybe one step too far for our lads this year but we are up in the mix now and will hopefully stay there for the foreseeable!

Hoof Hearted

Quote from: JimStynes on November 04, 2021, 03:19:20 PM
What sort of condition is the pitch in at Corrigan? I think a heavier pitch will suit Creggan. They're a big physical team. Plenty of pace too. Maybe one step too far for our lads this year but we are up in the mix now and will hopefully stay there for the foreseeable!

Mind games started already  😉
Treble 6 Nations Fantasy Rugby champion 2008, 2011 & 2012

Hoof Hearted

Quote from: Peter john on November 04, 2021, 04:05:28 PM
Hoof,you heard any news on managerial roundabout

No nothing, all very cryptic up above isn't it, apart from  nugent to Aldergrove
Treble 6 Nations Fantasy Rugby champion 2008, 2011 & 2012

JimStynes

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 04, 2021, 03:46:59 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 04, 2021, 03:19:20 PM
What sort of condition is the pitch in at Corrigan? I think a heavier pitch will suit Creggan. They're a big physical team. Plenty of pace too. Maybe one step too far for our lads this year but we are up in the mix now and will hopefully stay there for the foreseeable!

Mind games started already  😉

I thought it's an accurate enough assessment

Milltown Row2

Now that the ref has been appointed, its only fair for me to have a chat on this thread. I've always came away from the thread during championship

Free count exactly the same for both teams, Cargin won 11 free's in the first half Creggan won 12, no technical fouls, Cargin had a few more advantage calls, one of which led to the goal. Creggan also picked up a yellow card, no notes or cards for Cargin.

Second half Cargin won more frees 11 frees to Creggan's 10. (even overall) Cargin had one for overcarrying call while Creggan had 1 throw ball and one overcarrying call also another yellow card.

As for the Gerard McCann hit, on reflection or after 3 views I understand why that would be looked at as a fair challenge, the ref has one second to call it, positionally had I been in a better place it could have been called differently so I'll take that one on the chin, but a tight call all the same.

I'm not sure what game CB was watching with those 'facts' I've watched it back recorded, timed and where the tackles happened and what came of them.

Cargin unusually missed a couple of easy frees for them, Tomas dropped one short and young Pat pulled one to the right of the post, very unlike the pair of them and Mick also missed from open play from about 21 yards out the right.

I wish Colm al the best, as said already on here, a very good ref and hopefully both teams allow him and his officials to do their job, we won't keep everyone happy, but we have a course every year for new ref's that are interested, you can PM me details and I'll forward them on to the referees panel. the quality of the armchair ref is of a very high standard and would be useful on days like Sunday
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

EOC1923

He got the 2017 final, but in recent years our own Eamon McAuley has been ruled out of the final for obvious reasons. Surely he could of got a shot at it with Cargin out, instead of the same old same old.

Calm Down

As you are the man in the know MR2 who is the refs two sidekicks for the final

BTW didn't see the Cargin game at all but have to assume by all comments in here you got it all wong  ;)

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2021, 04:32:13 PM
Now that the ref has been appointed, its only fair for me to have a chat on this thread. I've always came away from the thread during championship

Free count exactly the same for both teams, Cargin won 11 free's in the first half Creggan won 12, no technical fouls, Cargin had a few more advantage calls, one of which led to the goal. Creggan also picked up a yellow card, no notes or cards for Cargin.

Second half Cargin won more frees 11 frees to Creggan's 10. (even overall) Cargin had one for overcarrying call while Creggan had 1 throw ball and one overcarrying call also another yellow card.

As for the Gerard McCann hit, on reflection or after 3 views I understand why that would be looked at as a fair challenge, the ref has one second to call it, positionally had I been in a better place it could have been called differently so I'll take that one on the chin, but a tight call all the same.

I'm not sure what game CB was watching with those 'facts' I've watched it back recorded, timed and where the tackles happened and what came of them.

Cargin unusually missed a couple of easy frees for them, Tomas dropped one short and young Pat pulled one to the right of the post, very unlike the pair of them and Mick also missed from open play from about 21 yards out the right.

I wish Colm al the best, as said already on here, a very good ref and hopefully both teams allow him and his officials to do their job, we won't keep everyone happy, but we have a course every year for new ref's that are interested, you can PM me details and I'll forward them on to the referees panel. the quality of the armchair ref is of a very high standard and would be useful on days like Sunday

Saffsof82

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2021, 04:32:13 PM

but we have a course every year for new ref's that are interested, you can PM me details and I'll forward them on to the referees panel. the quality of the armchair ref is of a very high standard and would be useful on days like Sunday


;D ;D ;D spot on

Milltown Row2

Quote from: EOC1923 on November 04, 2021, 04:48:29 PM
He got the 2017 final, but in recent years our own Eamon McAuley has been ruled out of the final for obvious reasons. Surely he could of got a shot at it with Cargin out, instead of the same old same old.

Eamonn is a bit like Skinny, if you team is in the final then he'll  not get that op, its unfortunate and the same happened for our ref during that period of dominance. Eamon did the Johnnies and Lamhs final, not for the faint hearted, did a grand job too. This year (non bias) I feel it was a toss up between a few refs, Sean Colm Karol and maybe one or two others..

You couldn't begrudge Colm this appointment
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Calm Down

You can't fault the preparation which is put into getting the ref ready for the county final, driving around all year to different games with the men who give out the big appointments if not appointing yourself to a county final

Kickham csc

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2021, 04:32:13 PM
Now that the ref has been appointed, its only fair for me to have a chat on this thread. I've always came away from the thread during championship

Free count exactly the same for both teams, Cargin won 11 free's in the first half Creggan won 12, no technical fouls, Cargin had a few more advantage calls, one of which led to the goal. Creggan also picked up a yellow card, no notes or cards for Cargin.

Second half Cargin won more frees 11 frees to Creggan's 10. (even overall) Cargin had one for overcarrying call while Creggan had 1 throw ball and one overcarrying call also another yellow card.

As for the Gerard McCann hit, on reflection or after 3 views I understand why that would be looked at as a fair challenge, the ref has one second to call it, positionally had I been in a better place it could have been called differently so I'll take that one on the chin, but a tight call all the same.

I'm not sure what game CB was watching with those 'facts' I've watched it back recorded, timed and where the tackles happened and what came of them.

Cargin unusually missed a couple of easy frees for them, Tomas dropped one short and young Pat pulled one to the right of the post, very unlike the pair of them and Mick also missed from open play from about 21 yards out the right.

I wish Colm al the best, as said already on here, a very good ref and hopefully both teams allow him and his officials to do their job, we won't keep everyone happy, but we have a course every year for new ref's that are interested, you can PM me details and I'll forward them on to the referees panel. the quality of the armchair ref is of a very high standard and would be useful on days like Sunday

The big hit is /was a marginal call, and probably one of the tougher decisions to make on the day. I personally would have no issues if it wasn't called a foul as I feel the should hits are slowly ebbing away from football, )but are still present in hurling).

There are photos that indicate that the hit happened just in the front into the side chest not shoulder to shoulder. McCann clearly made a genuine attempt for a clean hit, so it was a tough one. Still not a big turning point, as our lad recovered straight away and was in the process of picking up the ball under no pressure before he realized it was a free, so the decision didn't prevent a turn over

Saffronaldo

"Free count exactly the same for both teams, Cargin won 11 free's in the first half Creggan won 12, no technical fouls, Cargin had a few more advantage calls, one of which led to the goal. Creggan also picked up a yellow card, no notes or cards for Cargin.

Second half Cargin won more frees 11 frees to Creggan's 10. (even overall) Cargin had one for overcarrying call while Creggan had 1 throw ball and one overcarrying call also another yellow card"


How many frees in scoreable positions inside the 45 for each side? A free on the halfway line is very different from a tapover free in front of the posts....