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« Reply #14190 on: July 12, 2017, 12:26:13 AM »
They followed the rules and he deserves to be suspended. However, I'm sure that certain clubs/players would miraculously get off with this or have it fixed before any ban was handed out.

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« Reply #14191 on: July 12, 2017, 12:38:39 AM »
A player is suspended immediately after sending off.
A player is suspended until the disciplinary action has been sanctioned by CCC.
If a player will automatically miss the next game and credited for this when disciplinary action has been received .
Disciplinary action notice stipulates whether a player is entitled to play until the disciplinary action, has been completed
You have 3 days to request a hearing
It could be on these last two points that confusion has occurred



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« Reply #14192 on: July 12, 2017, 12:54:48 AM »
A player is suspended immediately after sending off.
A player is suspended until the disciplinary action has been sanctioned by CCC.
If a player will automatically miss the next game and credited for this when disciplinary action has been received .
Disciplinary action notice stipulates whether a player is entitled to play until the disciplinary action, has been completed
You have 3 days to request a hearing
It could be on these last two points that confusion has occurred

Until the CCC give you their findings based on the refs report I'd (if I was sec) wait before I'd let certain player play in a game, especially just a league game as now, they ain't available for championship
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« Reply #14193 on: July 12, 2017, 07:23:14 AM »
Your right MR2 thats what his secretary should have done but he made a judgement call and was wrong but he wasnt punished the player took all the blame and was suspended. Secretarys could change every year and a new sec mightened be as up to date on every rule can we not see there was a mistake here but that mistake shouldnt carry as harsh a suspension as Brian has got. His secretary advised him he could play so as any player would do he trusted his secretarys advice and played. Yes it was a wrong decision but surely this punishment doesnt fit the crime.

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« Reply #14194 on: July 12, 2017, 08:03:53 AM »
Your right MR2 thats what his secretary should have done but he made a judgement call and was wrong but he wasnt punished the player took all the blame and was suspended. Secretarys could change every year and a new sec mightened be as up to date on every rule can we not see there was a mistake here but that mistake shouldnt carry as harsh a suspension as Brian has got. His secretary advised him he could play so as any player would do he trusted his secretarys advice and played. Yes it was a wrong decision but surely this punishment doesnt fit the crime.

Very harsh, but the rules are there... the sec can't play so punishing him is pointless .. hopefully a bitta common sense prevails
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« Reply #14195 on: July 12, 2017, 08:25:28 AM »
A bit of a furore about this one, but the rule has been applied previously in similar situations!

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« Reply #14196 on: July 12, 2017, 09:45:40 AM »
Mibag u still sucking on them sour grapes I see!

Lads the rules r set out in the official guide as handed out. It doesn't matter if u r squeaky clean or not the rules r the same for everyone.

I would ask why would u appeal a one game ban in the first place?

If the referee reported it as an offence carrying one game then barring a technicality or u have video to the contrary u won't get off.

Was it down to the fact grove were to play a winnable game and wanted him available had it been a top 6 team would they have appealed?!

It is a hard one to take but as hs says ring ccc and double check the rules.
It has happened before with Carey from portglenone one such example.

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« Reply #14197 on: July 12, 2017, 10:00:09 AM »
If HS is trying to say rules are always followed to tbe letter of the law then hes kidding no one. Plenty of rule bending when it suits members of ccc and clubs. By the way im no Aldergrove man but do know Brian and hes absolutly gutted as is his club secretary.
When we start complaining because our officials didn't bend the rules, we have totally lost the run of ourselves.

I do have sympathy as I don't think it's a fair punishment but it is THE punishment.


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« Reply #14198 on: July 13, 2017, 06:49:21 AM »
There is a clemency committee that sits at Ulster, the club secretary could take it there and see how they get on based on the explanations given at the time? Just a thought? 24 weeks does seem harsh, and I do agree depending on who you are or your club we have shown in the past that approaches and final decisions can be treated differently, in a good faith to say the rule is the rule is comical in the GAA in this day and age..

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« Reply #14199 on: July 14, 2017, 08:19:01 PM »
Peter McGrath had stepped down at Fermanagh manager, get on the phone Collie

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« Reply #14200 on: July 16, 2017, 09:36:48 PM »
I know all these margins are small but looking back at the league, we gave Armagh one of their hardest challenges of all in a no holds barred game. Genuinely could have gone either way. Now after exiting the Ulster championship at the first stage, as did we, they are in the final round of qualifiers with an All Ireland Quarter Final a realistic possibility while our senior footballers are kicking their heels waiting 7 months for a meaningful game. Small margins, big impact.

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« Reply #14201 on: July 16, 2017, 11:07:37 PM »
I know all these margins are small but looking back at the league, we gave Armagh one of their hardest challenges of all in a no holds barred game. Genuinely could have gone either way. Now after exiting the Ulster championship at the first stage, as did we, they are in the final round of qualifiers with an All Ireland Quarter Final a realistic possibility while our senior footballers are kicking their heels waiting 7 months for a meaningful game. Small margins, big impact.
Thing if u have a wee look at our own leagues BB.....u will find that a lot of Antrim clubs will be 'kicking their heels' and waiting around for seven or eight months until the resumption of our leagues 2018........leagues finish in August and out of the championship in same month.....well there is soccer. :'(

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« Reply #14202 on: July 16, 2017, 11:28:43 PM »
CB, with the leagues virtually completed before c'ship, all teams will have had several good run outs v teams of a similar standard as prep. The league could be stretched out and finished late November, but many teams would be far from full strength and the league outcomes would possibly not reflect a true position for a number of clubs. Only one opinion but if you have a better suggestion please share...

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« Reply #14203 on: July 16, 2017, 11:35:17 PM »
I know all these margins are small but looking back at the league, we gave Armagh one of their hardest challenges of all in a no holds barred game. Genuinely could have gone either way. Now after exiting the Ulster championship at the first stage, as did we, they are in the final round of qualifiers with an All Ireland Quarter Final a realistic possibility while our senior footballers are kicking their heels waiting 7 months for a meaningful game. Small margins, big impact.

League games in the NFL won't represent how you play in championship.... leagues are playing, championships are for winning! Armagh had decent draws after exciting Ulster also
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« Reply #14204 on: July 16, 2017, 11:36:34 PM »
CB, with the leagues virtually completed before c'ship, all teams will have had several good run outs v teams of a similar standard as prep. The league could be stretched out and finished late November, but many teams would be far from full strength and the league outcomes would possibly not reflect a true position for a number of clubs. Only one opinion but if you have a better suggestion please share...
Just making comment mo chara.....short season (4》months) for most....and we cannot complain when soccer fills the long void.... :)