Antrim Football Thread

Started by theskull1, November 09, 2006, 11:48:40 PM

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imtommygunn

Dunloy will have a bigger support than usual going by this forum  ;D

2 very good match ups, 1 with a strong favourite and one where you'd expect Portglenone to win it ok but you never know with the Johnnies.

Portglenone
Cargin
Dunloy
Creggan

Round or stuffed

Quote from: inabsentia on September 02, 2024, 12:48:24 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on September 02, 2024, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on September 02, 2024, 11:15:39 AMGort v Davitts in inter for who gets relegated as Ardoyne are already down.

Ballymena vs Glenavy winner goes through.

Know Davitts had nobody out against Ballymena, but can't see Ballymena getting beat by a hot and cold Glenavy

What way does the other group work, is the second last team not in the relegation playoff?

If GNM win and Glenavy lose, Glenavy would be in the relegation playoff. Hearing Glenavy got a few straight reds after the game on Sunday so can't see them doing anything against Ballymena.


Assumption is the same as the promotion, in that whoever gets to that match is relegated due to the fact that the Ardoyne are relegated regardless.


Inter relegation is the bottom two teams of both groups playing off, so they're safe on 4 points regardless.

who is more likely for the drop, davitts took a really bad beating up in ballymena, but will they have a kick left in them next week? Gort beat Glenavy but was it a flash in the pan?

Delgany 2nds

Quote from: Round or stuffed on September 05, 2024, 10:09:06 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on September 02, 2024, 12:48:24 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on September 02, 2024, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on September 02, 2024, 11:15:39 AMGort v Davitts in inter for who gets relegated as Ardoyne are already down.

Ballymena vs Glenavy winner goes through.

Know Davitts had nobody out against Ballymena, but can't see Ballymena getting beat by a hot and cold Glenavy

What way does the other group work, is the second last team not in the relegation playoff?

If GNM win and Glenavy lose, Glenavy would be in the relegation playoff. Hearing Glenavy got a few straight reds after the game on Sunday so can't see them doing anything against Ballymena.


Assumption is the same as the promotion, in that whoever gets to that match is relegated due to the fact that the Ardoyne are relegated regardless.


Inter relegation is the bottom two teams of both groups playing off, so they're safe on 4 points regardless.

who is more likely for the drop, davitts took a really bad beating up in ballymena, but will they have a kick left in them next week? Gort beat Glenavy but was it a flash in the pan?

If GNM beat Davitts, davitts will be relegated to JFC and Div3 league alongside Ardoyne.

GNM would have an advantage as Davitts badly  disadvantaged by Saturday 5pm throw in!

Saffrongael

Quote from: Delgany 2nds on September 05, 2024, 10:31:19 PM
Quote from: Round or stuffed on September 05, 2024, 10:09:06 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on September 02, 2024, 12:48:24 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on September 02, 2024, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on September 02, 2024, 11:15:39 AMGort v Davitts in inter for who gets relegated as Ardoyne are already down.

Ballymena vs Glenavy winner goes through.

Know Davitts had nobody out against Ballymena, but can't see Ballymena getting beat by a hot and cold Glenavy

What way does the other group work, is the second last team not in the relegation playoff?

If GNM win and Glenavy lose, Glenavy would be in the relegation playoff. Hearing Glenavy got a few straight reds after the game on Sunday so can't see them doing anything against Ballymena.


Assumption is the same as the promotion, in that whoever gets to that match is relegated due to the fact that the Ardoyne are relegated regardless.


Inter relegation is the bottom two teams of both groups playing off, so they're safe on 4 points regardless.

who is more likely for the drop, davitts took a really bad beating up in ballymena, but will they have a kick left in them next week? Gort beat Glenavy but was it a flash in the pan?

If GNM beat Davitts, davitts will be relegated to JFC and Div3 league alongside Ardoyne.

GNM would have an advantage as Davitts badly  disadvantaged by Saturday 5pm throw in!

Soccer ?

Also is it not unfair that a team finishes in the top half of the league and gets relegated ?
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Beirbua2024

Quote from: Saffrongael on September 05, 2024, 10:59:03 PM
Quote from: Delgany 2nds on September 05, 2024, 10:31:19 PM
Quote from: Round or stuffed on September 05, 2024, 10:09:06 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on September 02, 2024, 12:48:24 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on September 02, 2024, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on September 02, 2024, 11:15:39 AMGort v Davitts in inter for who gets relegated as Ardoyne are already down.

Ballymena vs Glenavy winner goes through.

Know Davitts had nobody out against Ballymena, but can't see Ballymena getting beat by a hot and cold Glenavy

What way does the other group work, is the second last team not in the relegation playoff?

If GNM win and Glenavy lose, Glenavy would be in the relegation playoff. Hearing Glenavy got a few straight reds after the game on Sunday so can't see them doing anything against Ballymena.


Assumption is the same as the promotion, in that whoever gets to that match is relegated due to the fact that the Ardoyne are relegated regardless.


Inter relegation is the bottom two teams of both groups playing off, so they're safe on 4 points regardless.

who is more likely for the drop, davitts took a really bad beating up in ballymena, but will they have a kick left in them next week? Gort beat Glenavy but was it a flash in the pan?

If GNM beat Davitts, davitts will be relegated to JFC and Div3 league alongside Ardoyne.

GNM would have an advantage as Davitts badly  disadvantaged by Saturday 5pm throw in!

Soccer ?

Also is it not unfair that a team finishes in the top half of the league and gets relegated ?

I think it would be harsh on Davitts but not unfair, they haven't won a game since 26th May. Did they down tools after securing a top half finish and not know this was a possible outcome?

Whatever happens at least this match isn't a dead rubber I suppose and Glenavy vs Ballymena also has the makings of a cracker with it being winner take all.

Round or stuffed

Quote from: Beirbua2024 on September 06, 2024, 12:14:25 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 05, 2024, 10:59:03 PM
Quote from: Delgany 2nds on September 05, 2024, 10:31:19 PM
Quote from: Round or stuffed on September 05, 2024, 10:09:06 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on September 02, 2024, 12:48:24 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on September 02, 2024, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on September 02, 2024, 11:15:39 AMGort v Davitts in inter for who gets relegated as Ardoyne are already down.

Ballymena vs Glenavy winner goes through.

Know Davitts had nobody out against Ballymena, but can't see Ballymena getting beat by a hot and cold Glenavy

What way does the other group work, is the second last team not in the relegation playoff?

If GNM win and Glenavy lose, Glenavy would be in the relegation playoff. Hearing Glenavy got a few straight reds after the game on Sunday so can't see them doing anything against Ballymena.


Assumption is the same as the promotion, in that whoever gets to that match is relegated due to the fact that the Ardoyne are relegated regardless.


Inter relegation is the bottom two teams of both groups playing off, so they're safe on 4 points regardless.

who is more likely for the drop, davitts took a really bad beating up in ballymena, but will they have a kick left in them next week? Gort beat Glenavy but was it a flash in the pan?

If GNM beat Davitts, davitts will be relegated to JFC and Div3 league alongside Ardoyne.

GNM would have an advantage as Davitts badly  disadvantaged by Saturday 5pm throw in!

Soccer ?

Also is it not unfair that a team finishes in the top half of the league and gets relegated ?

I think it would be harsh on Davitts but not unfair, they haven't won a game since 26th May. Did they down tools after securing a top half finish and not know this was a possible outcome?

Whatever happens at least this match isn't a dead rubber I suppose and Glenavy vs Ballymena also has the makings of a cracker with it being winner take all.

Whats the reason for the drop off, injury? Is their goalkeeper slane still suspended for the final game? The rules were there from the start, everyone could see the lie of the land if they read them. You have 4 chances to get something so cant really blame anyone else.

Delgany 2nds

Quote from: Round or stuffed on September 06, 2024, 10:22:19 AM
Quote from: Beirbua2024 on September 06, 2024, 12:14:25 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 05, 2024, 10:59:03 PM
Quote from: Delgany 2nds on September 05, 2024, 10:31:19 PM
Quote from: Round or stuffed on September 05, 2024, 10:09:06 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on September 02, 2024, 12:48:24 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on September 02, 2024, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on September 02, 2024, 11:15:39 AMGort v Davitts in inter for who gets relegated as Ardoyne are already down.

Ballymena vs Glenavy winner goes through.

Know Davitts had nobody out against Ballymena, but can't see Ballymena getting beat by a hot and cold Glenavy

What way does the other group work, is the second last team not in the relegation playoff?

If GNM win and Glenavy lose, Glenavy would be in the relegation playoff. Hearing Glenavy got a few straight reds after the game on Sunday so can't see them doing anything against Ballymena.


Assumption is the same as the promotion, in that whoever gets to that match is relegated due to the fact that the Ardoyne are relegated regardless.


Inter relegation is the bottom two teams of both groups playing off, so they're safe on 4 points regardless.

who is more likely for the drop, davitts took a really bad beating up in ballymena, but will they have a kick left in them next week? Gort beat Glenavy but was it a flash in the pan?

If GNM beat Davitts, davitts will be relegated to JFC and Div3 league alongside Ardoyne.

GNM would have an advantage as Davitts badly  disadvantaged by Saturday 5pm throw in!

Soccer ?

Also is it not unfair that a team finishes in the top half of the league and gets relegated ?

I think it would be harsh on Davitts but not unfair, they haven't won a game since 26th May. Did they down tools after securing a top half finish and not know this was a possible outcome?

Whatever happens at least this match isn't a dead rubber I suppose and Glenavy vs Ballymena also has the makings of a cracker with it being winner take all.

Whats the reason for the drop off, injury? Is their goalkeeper slane still suspended for the final game? The rules were there from the start, everyone could see the lie of the land if they read them. You have 4 chances to get something so cant really blame anyone else.

The 'rules' were as clear as mud for some!

Saffron_sam20

Quote from: Round or stuffed on September 06, 2024, 10:22:19 AM
Quote from: Beirbua2024 on September 06, 2024, 12:14:25 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 05, 2024, 10:59:03 PM
Quote from: Delgany 2nds on September 05, 2024, 10:31:19 PM
Quote from: Round or stuffed on September 05, 2024, 10:09:06 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on September 02, 2024, 12:48:24 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on September 02, 2024, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on September 02, 2024, 11:15:39 AMGort v Davitts in inter for who gets relegated as Ardoyne are already down.

Ballymena vs Glenavy winner goes through.

Know Davitts had nobody out against Ballymena, but can't see Ballymena getting beat by a hot and cold Glenavy

What way does the other group work, is the second last team not in the relegation playoff?

If GNM win and Glenavy lose, Glenavy would be in the relegation playoff. Hearing Glenavy got a few straight reds after the game on Sunday so can't see them doing anything against Ballymena.


Assumption is the same as the promotion, in that whoever gets to that match is relegated due to the fact that the Ardoyne are relegated regardless.


Inter relegation is the bottom two teams of both groups playing off, so they're safe on 4 points regardless.

who is more likely for the drop, davitts took a really bad beating up in ballymena, but will they have a kick left in them next week? Gort beat Glenavy but was it a flash in the pan?

If GNM beat Davitts, davitts will be relegated to JFC and Div3 league alongside Ardoyne.

GNM would have an advantage as Davitts badly  disadvantaged by Saturday 5pm throw in!

Soccer ?

Also is it not unfair that a team finishes in the top half of the league and gets relegated ?

I think it would be harsh on Davitts but not unfair, they haven't won a game since 26th May. Did they down tools after securing a top half finish and not know this was a possible outcome?

Whatever happens at least this match isn't a dead rubber I suppose and Glenavy vs Ballymena also has the makings of a cracker with it being winner take all.

Whats the reason for the drop off, injury? Is their goalkeeper slane still suspended for the final game? The rules were there from the start, everyone could see the lie of the land if they read them. You have 4 chances to get something so cant really blame anyone else.

So if antrim win JFC and won the league, 2 teams come down and 1 up or is it the beaten finalists would of up too

Beirbua2024

Beaten finalists would go into Div2 and Intermediate championship for 2025 season

Round or stuffed

Quote from: Beirbua2024 on September 06, 2024, 12:42:00 PMBeaten finalists would go into Div2 and Intermediate championship for 2025 season
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is there no-one in Antrim who reads competition guidelines, the losing junior championship finalists playoff against Laochra loch Leo as they finished second in the league for a place in intermediate

Beirbua2024

Quote from: Round or stuffed on September 06, 2024, 02:04:57 PM
Quote from: Beirbua2024 on September 06, 2024, 12:42:00 PMBeaten finalists would go into Div2 and Intermediate championship for 2025 season

is there no-one in Antrim who reads competition guidelines, the losing junior championship finalists playoff against Laochra loch Leo as they finished second in the league for a place in intermediate


Yeah you could be on the money, I'm just going by the football workshop proposal which was passed in January that states

"If the same team wins the Div 2FL and the Intermediate / Div 3FL and Junior Championship in the same year it would be the Championship losing finalists that would get promoted."

Think some communication to clubs would be greatly appreciated as there is plenty of conflicting information

Round or stuffed

I'm almost certain it was sent in the league competition guidelines to all clubs in march. there seems to be a serious disconnect between clubs and members that this information isn't getting out

Delgany 2nds

League Regulations issued on 8th March-
Division 1 adult football: the lowest placed four teams after the completion of league fixtures, will play off in relegation semi-finals. The two losing teams will play off in a relegation final game.

 The losing team in the relegation final play-off game will be relegated to Division 2, subject to the exceptions below.

Exceptions – in the event that the losing league relegation final team wins the Senior Football Championship, that team shall not be relegated. Instead, the second competing SFC relegation finalist shall be relegated to Division 2.

In the event that the losing Div 1 league relegation finalist reaches the semi-finals of the SFC and is thereby seeded for the following year's SFC, then both teams in the SFC relegation final shall be relegated to Division 2 and the IFC – no relegation final shall be played in this case.

(Dunloy) In the event that a team playing in Div 2 reaches the semi-final of the SFC and is seeded for the following year's SFC, then both teams in the SFC relegation final shall be relegated to Div 2 and the IFC, unless that club opts to play in Division 2 and the IFC.
 
Division 2 adult football: the lowest placed team after the completion of league fixtures shall be relegated to Division 3, subject to the exceptions below.

Exception - if the event that the same team finishes last in Div 2 and wins the IFC, then that team shall be promoted to Div 1 and the SFC.

The second IFC relegation( winning playoff)  finalist shall be relegated to Division 3 and the JFC.
 
Championship update – 26 July ( clarification)
SFC The 4th placed finishing team in each of the four Senior Football Championship groups, will be drawn randomly in two relegation semi-finals at a neutral venue(s), to be determined by the CCC; The losing teams from each semi-final will play in a relegation final, at a neutral venue to be determined by the CCC, with the losing team relegated to IFC for the following year.

 In the event that one of the 4th placed teams in each of the four groups has already been relegated via the All-County league competition, the other three teams will play each other in a round-robin (2 games each; one home and one away) series, following which the lowest finishing team will be relegated.

 IFC The 5th placed finishing team in each of the two Intermediate Football Championship groups, will play in a relegation play-off at a neutral venue, to be determined by the CCC, with the losing team relegated to JFC for the following year.

 In the event that one of the 5th placed teams in each of the two groups has already been relegated via the All-County league competition, the other team will automatically be relegated.

Div 3 Promotion

Division 3 adult football: the team in 1st position only, after completion of league fixtures (two rounds) is the league winner and promoted to Division 2, subject to the exceptions below

Exception - in the event that the same team wins Division 3 and the Junior football championship, that team shall be promoted to Division 2 and Intermediate championship;

the team finishing 2nd in that league shall play the beaten JFC finalist in a playoff game to determine who is the second promoted team. In the event that this is the same team, no playoff game shall be required.

Beirbua2024

Thanks for this makes everything easier to understand. Looks like LLL will have a playoff at least I concede I had outdated info on that, as I can't see St Comghalls getting beat. Also Dunloy 1 win away from relegating 2 from St Galls, St Endas, TNN or Glenravel and getting themselves promoted seems incredible to think about.

Delgany 2nds

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Quote from: Beirbua2024 on September 06, 2024, 04:05:51 PMThanks for this makes everything easier to understand. Looks like LLL will have a playoff at least I concede I had outdated info on that, as I can't see St Comghalls getting beat. Also Dunloy 1 win away from relegating 2 from St Galls, St Endas, TNN or Glenravel and getting themselves promoted seems incredible to think about.
Quote from: Beirbua2024 on September 06, 2024, 04:05:51 PMThanks for this makes everything easier to understand. Looks like LLL will have a playoff at least I concede I had outdated info on that, as I can't see St Comghalls getting beat. Also Dunloy 1 win away from relegating 2 from St Galls, St Endas, TNN or Glenravel and getting themselves promoted seems incredible to think about.

St Brigids v Dunloy - hard enough to call.
St Galls would have too much for St.Endas. TNN v Glenravel ...too close to call.
Looking at JFC qtr / Semis ' LLL could make the final and be automatically promoted.