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« Reply #22005 on: February 18, 2021, 03:51:59 PM »
Yeah it did.

Pretty much all issues resolved with the residents from what I understand.
Simply now down to a shortfall on the money. So the GAA are going to have to pony up some more cash.

It was handled appallingly from the get go and Antrim were right royally shafted in the process and I am pretty sure will continue to be in the future when it comes to access to the actual place.

But it is at the stage now where this is a once in a lifetime opportunity not to be repeated to get a state of the art facility for our games in the second city. So it is a matter of suck it up and show some commitment to people of Antrim and the North and get it done.

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« Reply #22006 on: February 18, 2021, 04:28:34 PM »
It isnít a case of casement will go ahead now but rather when and who will pay for it.
Regardless of what both parties say there is clearly going to be a standoff between the GAA and the department of communities to see who will foot the bill. As for talk of scaling down etc wise the bap! There is not going to be any other show in town.

The best part of a decade on I still find it infuriating how and why casement was allowed to close in the first place before planning had been passed. But what people seem to forget is that a primary motive of the then county chairman to close Casement was to get the social club closed. A personal gripe. At the time it had to close once the stadium had been condemned due to H&S reasons. Casement could and should have remained open only for some fairly minor repairs.

Did you ever hear the story about the building contractor that told the lay man that if he gave him his 2 up 2 down house he would build him a big mansion but with the caveat that he wouldnít actually ever own it? Well that guy has been homeless now pushing on 8 years. Welcome to the casement park fiasco

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« Reply #22007 on: February 18, 2021, 05:05:03 PM »
Part of the problem in this wasn't caused by the GAA that caused such a massive delay which has had the knock on effect to leave it so far down the line and the costs go up.

The cost of steel, blocks, insulation, windows etc have risen due to the pandemic, inflation, natural rises and brexit. Of course what was ring fenced and agreed 10 years ago was never going to be in the same playing field as it is now so for the GAA to be asked to up their commitment for something that wasn't their fault is a bit laughable. I can see why the GAA arent forthcoming with any commitments to give anymore money into the project.

They already have commitments to other improvements in Meath and Kildare put on the back burner so Antrim will go the same way with that regards as well.

The DOC wont be forth coming with more money at the moment, the GAA either. Casement Park will be sitting as it is for a while longer.

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« Reply #22008 on: February 18, 2021, 06:39:55 PM »
No accountability whatsoever, Antrim we not shafted NAG1 you need to do more digging on that one...Easy to blame UC need to look closer to home but hopefully the truth will come out eventually on who did what and why? You cannot just pick up whenever , it will have to be re-tendered or it could be JR'd to the days of amen with the other 5 bidders. External independent investigation needed to be initiated by the County, but then that would be Turkeys voting for Christmas as they say.

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« Reply #22009 on: February 18, 2021, 07:00:58 PM »
Yeah it did.

Pretty much all issues resolved with the residents from what I understand.
Simply now down to a shortfall on the money. So the GAA are going to have to pony up some more cash.

It was handled appallingly from the get go and Antrim were right royally shafted in the process and I am pretty sure will continue to be in the future when it comes to access to the actual place.

But it is at the stage now where this is a once in a lifetime opportunity not to be repeated to get a state of the art facility for our games in the second city. So it is a matter of suck it up and show some commitment to people of Antrim and the North and get it done.

Antrim will be somewhere behind Feile an Phobail for access and use

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« Reply #22010 on: February 18, 2021, 10:28:50 PM »
Im not an architect or anyThing like that but cant you build a stadium in phases? all the stands dont have to be there on Opening day - cut your cloth acoording to what money u have - get the place in use and build more of it over time? more waiting onlY increase cost and now planning is approved crack on with it

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« Reply #22011 on: February 18, 2021, 11:06:09 PM »
Thereís more to it.. the infrastructure needs to be right, a busy road needing to be closed and so on..

So the planning id expect needs to be just right
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« Reply #22012 on: February 19, 2021, 11:39:56 AM »
I chuckled this morning when I seen promotional material for St Endas called Club 100.
They claim to be the biggest club in Antrim and Ulster and the  predominant club in South Antrim.  No mean feat.
There is a lot of competition with all the clubs in North Belfast.. Lol 😂😂
The last time I looked they had zero senior football and zero hurling championship medals.
They have a big membership, a growing nursery school and good size of land facilities but they  have also developed a BIG dose of DUP type arrogance as well.  Too soon to claim to be the biggest club in the world...

Listened to The Saffcast podcast this morning. Very impressive set up that St. Enda's have going on. A serious pick of schools and players feeding into their teams. Surely on numbers alone and with the sort of set up they have they'll be a championship winning club in a few years.

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« Reply #22013 on: February 19, 2021, 02:08:59 PM »
Definitely need to be thinking along those lines. Ambition and hard work should find its reward. We need a dozen Antrim clubs thinking along these lines. What a difference that would make to the quality of players we are returning to the county pool.

I've said this before, but no harm in repeating. We talk a lot about county development squads and schools needing to do more.....but a club which gets its act properly together in developing its juveniles is in the best place of all to have the biggest influence and obtain the biggest reward.

St Endas are not waiting around. They are siezing the initiative for themselves and fair play to them. With such a massive catchment area they really should be a big contender in the years ahead.

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« Reply #22014 on: February 19, 2021, 02:42:06 PM »
Would it be a good idea to look at starting a nursery on the grounds of your Club?

St Enda's a great model for that and may start reaping rewards in the future...

I would love us to tear down the clubrooms (sell it off)  and locate down at the pitch with a new build and a possible Irish school type nursery 
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« Reply #22015 on: February 19, 2021, 02:42:26 PM »
I chuckled this morning when I seen promotional material for St Endas called Club 100.
They claim to be the biggest club in Antrim and Ulster and the  predominant club in South Antrim.  No mean feat.
There is a lot of competition with all the clubs in North Belfast.. Lol 😂😂
The last time I looked they had zero senior football and zero hurling championship medals.
They have a big membership, a growing nursery school and good size of land facilities but they  have also developed a BIG dose of DUP type arrogance as well.  Too soon to claim to be the biggest club in the world...

Listened to The Saffcast podcast this morning. Very impressive set up that St. Enda's have going on. A serious pick of schools and players feeding into their teams. Surely on numbers alone and with the sort of set up they have they'll be a championship winning club in a few years.

listened to it myself this morning and they have done a fine job at St Endas. I've been impressed with the work they have been doing on and off the field.

If they keep that going at underage level it gives the platform for a senior success at the club
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« Reply #22016 on: February 19, 2021, 05:44:29 PM »
I chuckled this morning when I seen promotional material for St Endas called Club 100.
They claim to be the biggest club in Antrim and Ulster and the  predominant club in South Antrim.  No mean feat.
There is a lot of competition with all the clubs in North Belfast.. Lol 😂😂
The last time I looked they had zero senior football and zero hurling championship medals.
They have a big membership, a growing nursery school and good size of land facilities but they  have also developed a BIG dose of DUP type arrogance as well.  Too soon to claim to be the biggest club in the world...

Listened to The Saffcast podcast this morning. Very impressive set up that St. Enda's have going on. A serious pick of schools and players feeding into their teams. Surely on numbers alone and with the sort of set up they have they'll be a championship winning club in a few years.

listened to it myself this morning and they have done a fine job at St Endas. I've been impressed with the work they have been doing on and off the field.

If they keep that going at underage level it gives the platform for a senior success at the club

They've a ridiculous number of children to chose from as well. That brings its own problems but a good problem to have all the same.

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« Reply #22017 on: February 20, 2021, 09:30:03 AM »
Positive  spin article in today's IN about Casement. Declan Lynch saying he hopes to play there again in an Antrim jersey and he might well do if he signs up for the Masters football.
When Casement development is stalled again as not enough money is available and I don't think funds will be available for 5-10 years can we hand the project to someone else to oversee.
The Saffron Business Forum team who have done a great job to date with everything they have organised could recruit a team.
Take back control from Ulster Council and make do for now with a smaller stadium for Antrim Gaels similar in size to Ravenhill but future proofed for expansion.
Otherwise it may be destined to be a new supermarket or housing development

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« Reply #22018 on: February 21, 2021, 06:03:04 AM »
Positive  spin article in today's IN about Casement. Declan Lynch saying he hopes to play there again in an Antrim jersey and he might well do if he signs up for the Masters football.
When Casement development is stalled again as not enough money is available and I don't think funds will be available for 5-10 years can we hand the project to someone else to oversee.
The Saffron Business Forum team who have done a great job to date with everything they have organised could recruit a team.
Take back control from Ulster Council and make do for now with a smaller stadium for Antrim Gaels similar in size to Ravenhill but future proofed for expansion.
Otherwise it may be destined to be a new supermarket or housing development


Antrim can't take back something they have sold!

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« Reply #22019 on: February 21, 2021, 08:33:40 AM »
Positive  spin article in today's IN about Casement. Declan Lynch saying he hopes to play there again in an Antrim jersey and he might well do if he signs up for the Masters football.
When Casement development is stalled again as not enough money is available and I don't think funds will be available for 5-10 years can we hand the project to someone else to oversee.
The Saffron Business Forum team who have done a great job to date with everything they have organised could recruit a team.
Take back control from Ulster Council and make do for now with a smaller stadium for Antrim Gaels similar in size to Ravenhill but future proofed for expansion.
Otherwise it may be destined to be a new supermarket or housing development


Antrim can't take back something they have sold!

How much did they get for it?
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